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Tiesto is one event away from being dead to me.

You're dead to me boy, more dead than your dead mother...

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This is with out a doubt one of the worst sets i�ve heard this year. This pseudo techno shit that tiesto is playing is horrible. If I wanted to listen to techno, i'd go listen to a techno dj who had some skill.

It�s not just been this one set either, I haven�t heard a really good tiesto set through out the entire year. You can say he going through a transitional period or make a number of other excuses, but he has been confused about what to play for a while in my opinion. You cant go from some popular progressive tracks, to some popular trance tracks, to some half assed techno stuff in the space of an hour.

I think i�m more than capable to judge this based on the live sets and cds i�ve heard from him this year. His recent cd he mixed for being the worlds number one dj, was crap. It suffered from what I mentioned above, imo, and the mixing was really average. Nyana was crap. Poorly mixed, average track selection. I was really disappointed with it and i'm sure many other people were as well.

Gone are the magikal days where you could download a tiesto set and expect absolute quality. Thankfully he stopped at magik 7, besmirching that series with the tripe he plays now would have been awful. No other cd i've heard rivals magik 6, it could be tiesto, it could be trance being made today, it could be, and probably is, a bit of both. But the tiesto we all knew and once loved is gone.

Tiesto's productions appear to heading the way of his sets. Blackhole is releasing a lot of music in that style now, and Tiesto - Traffic shows the way, which he is heading. I don�t think suburban train, flight 643, and magik journey calibur songs will ever be released by tiesto again.

If tiesto plays a sub standard set on new years day, then ill saunter off into the house room probably, and ill take the respect I once had for tiesto with me. Which is truly sad. Fortunately there are other guys, which will carry on my love for trance, armin for the most part. Tiesto should take a few notes out of his book. In my opinion armin should have number 1 this year. Especially when 1 and 2 were tiesto and van dyk.

Anyone else think the same way?

dave seaman + j00f!

Re: Tiesto is one event away from being dead to me.

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Originally posted by escee In my opinion armin should have number 1 this year. Especially when 1 and 2 were tiesto and van dyk. Anyone else think the same way?

without a doubt.

why not find a different dj to enjoy then.. rather than just flaming him here?

sif. tiesto is one of the only dj's in the world (with the exception of ferry) that can mix up techno and trance and make it enjoyable to listen to. the best thing about him is that he isn't strictly trance!

ps ferry > armin

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Originally posted by Antistatic sif. tiesto is one of the only dj's in the world (with the exception of ferry) that can mix up techno and trance and make it enjoyable to listen to. the best thing about him is that he isn't strictly trance! ps ferry > armin

Except he doesnt make it enjoyable to listen to, if you want to listen to techno, then go listen to a techno dj, who im sure you could appreciate being 100 times more technically skilled than tiesto.

and, no way, ferry has gone down hill too imo. Armin owns all trance djs at the moment.

Boogerd, i enjoy lots of different djs, and i could hardly think that my thought out and rational post was a flame?

hehe i agree with u in some respects if tiesto wants to play techno he should at least do something technically impressive. i dunno it's probably personal preference but i find armin's sets are "too" uplifting, i enjoy ferry's stuff cos he plays lots of random stuff from prog to hard dance.

when armin was here for godskitchen in 2002, i agree he played a set that was too uplifting, my arms were sore. But two tribes this year, his set while uplifting wasnt constantly so.

I think his 6 hour set in january will be the perfect test. If he tries to play trance for 6 hours, then itll get boring. Hopefully he will mix it up, and you will be proved wrong.

CJ Bolland owns all.

That is all.

Tiesto --> <-- CJ Bolland
Ferry --> <-- CJ Bolland
Armin --> <-- CJ Bolland
Jon Noonan --> <-- CJ Bolland

aehaehaehaehaehahe

one can dream

(except for me getting owned i can believe that )

I was there during the set and everyone was dancing. You're only listening to a broadcast, a recording. A dj plays dor a crowd, and playes what that crowd likes, and he played superb! And the mixing wasn't that bad, have a look at johan gielen!

When you judge a dj, first you must have seen him live! and you have to have been there during the set which you are bashing or approving!!!

Greetz Muppet

p.s: for him producing songs such as urban train: second tune was a new tiesto and his rmx of adagio for strings!

haha nice use of smileys huebor.

How'd I know you'd bite Jan Noonan??

Its really unfair to compare DJs .. they each have their own style etc ...


but that being said, CJ Bolland will COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY own all the gurners @ Sunshine People in Perth BRING IT!

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Originally posted by escee haha nice use of smileys huebor.

thank you *bows* hahha

I am only using ur bait as an excuse to upgrade my posts

ok, now stop spamming my tiesto hatred thread and move on, or discuss how wrong or right i am.

OR ILL HAVE WEBMEISTER CHANGE ALL YER SIGS!

haha.. but i voted that webby should be allowed to abuse his powers .. surely he wouldn't lash out at me!#%?!#%?

and you should be happy! we're keepin' ya thread up near the top

i just got home from seein tiesto....and he was awesome i for one LOVE how he's playing these days...beats the shite outta boring airy fairy uplifting track after track.......granted, i didn't like the innercity set much either - it def has a very different feel to most of his recent sets.....but i just put that down to the fact that innercity is kinda a more techno/hardish oriented event.....

hmmm, why isn't sumbody allowed to grow and change?? nobody has the same tastes and style in ANYTHING for their whole life....just cos he used to play a certain way, why should he have to stick to that forever?? pffffffffffft

tiesto owned me 2nite.....and i was very happily owned

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Originally posted by Beemer i just got home from seein tiesto....and he was awesome i for one LOVE how he's playing these days...beats the shite outta boring airy fairy uplifting track after track.......granted, i didn't like the innercity set much either - it def has a very different feel to most of his recent sets.....but i just put that down to the fact that innercity is kinda a more techno/hardish oriented event..... hmmm, why isn't sumbody allowed to grow and change?? nobody has the same tastes and style in ANYTHING for their whole life....just cos he used to play a certain way, why should he have to stick to that forever?? pffffffffffft tiesto owned me 2nite.....and i was very happily owned

by the looks of this thread not everyone is as convinced...
to Escee - Innercity is hard to judge - Tiesto knew and announced he would play harder than usual for that event... without living the atmosphere of the event its difficult for anyone to appreciate that set.

Lemme know if u still feel he is lost after u see him in the flesh in Oz the next 2 weeks.

Hmmmm...

I listened to the Innercity boardcast live. They didn't play all of Tiesto's site that time, but that parts they did play I found quite impressive, even for a shitty 56kbps stream!
Also, the Innercity theme was based on Brazil this year, so playing techno a bit more than usual is to be expected I guess. But I know what you're saying escee, if I wanna hear good techno, I'd go see a *true* techno DJ.
It seems I am the only one who liked the Innercity set? Although, maybe I should hear the set in full to completely comment on it.

I agree on he's technical skills though, he's beatmatching isn't top notch, but I love the way he constrasts he's track selections though harmonic key differences - ALOT of TA's would completely disagree with me though, but I guess it's better suited to my taste.

He's productions on the other hand I definitely like. I hated Traffic was it was quite new early this year, but now I've grown to like it. The tracks that are really great are he's remix of Faithfulness, STREET SPIRIT, Never, Flesh 2002 and the love or hate Adagio.

True there was a time where I would say that the old school Tiesto was better - but I've come to realise that the Tiesto then and the Tiesto now can not compare, they're so different now. I like this particular darker style that he has

Also, agree with Beemer, people should be allowed to grow - Ferry with he's new electro-trance sound, Tiesto with he's dark uplifting tech-trance, and even Armin with he's uplifting prog-trance sound. No one stays the same forever - it's just a natual progression of tastes - whether if it's good or bad for them.

Escee: ignore the fucksticks that take this thread as a flame. Not only have you put thought to the thread before posting, you have expressed yourself thouroughly and without being a flaming whore. So i respect you for that.


Personally, i think tiesto is one of the braver dj's out there trying to establish himself as a "dj" not a " trance dj". Sometimes it works sometimes it doesnt all of a matter of taste I guess. We all know u still love flight 643 though

As someone said, you really have to see Tiesto dj at a gig to appreciate how good he is. The man is a showman, and I for one like his new direction. I've haven't seen Tiesto since Global Gathering this year and the only set I've heard since is the innercity one. He wasn't all that impressive at Global Gathering, and the innercity set was average as well. The first 4 or so tracks were good, then after "Waterfall" it all starts going downhill! But to be voted the #1 dj, you figure he's gotta be doing something right!! And it's a bit unfair to want Tiesto to sound like he did 5 years ago, his choice of music has moved on from 5 years ago, as I'm sure yours has. Can't say I agree with you about Armin either, he's good but you really need to see him play at least a 3 hour set. Any less than that it's all uplifting, if he plays for more than 3 hours he tends to bang it out a bit towards the end. Bring on Armin at Subbies!

This thread is so stupid... top DJs these days are meant to be performers and make the crowd enjoy themselfs. Those who stick to same genre like Armin, are afraid to envolve, and who plays same old tunes that we hear on A State of Trance eveerywhere else.

I don't need that, I want a dj to play for the crowd, otherwise I'll listen to his radio show.

You don't need to go see a good techno dj for techno or whatever your saying. Carl Cox is meant to be one of the most respected techno djs and when i saw him live few weeks ago he played house, techno, some dance bootlegs and trance. It was most likely the best night @ Family for the whole year as all the people have said that.

He gave us clubbers a performance we could enjoy and remember, he didn't play for the people listening on the radio.

Stop crying about Tiesto, if you don't like him then find another dj to listen to, there is about a million to choose from.

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Originally posted by TiksA This thread is so stupid... top DJs these days are meant to be performers and make the crowd enjoy themselfs. Those who stick to same genre like Armin, are afraid to envolve, and who plays same old tunes that we hear on A State of Trance eveerywhere else. I don't need that, I want a dj to play for the crowd, otherwise I'll listen to his radio show. You don't need to go see a good techno dj for techno or whatever your saying. Carl Cox is meant to be one of the most respected techno djs and when i saw him live few weeks ago he played house, techno, some dance bootlegs and trance. It was most likely the best night @ Family for the whole year as all the people have said that. He gave us clubbers a performance we could enjoy and remember, he didn't play for the people listening on the radio. Stop crying about Tiesto, if you don't like him then find another dj to listen to, there is about a million to choose from.

Couldnt agree more... its also partly the fan(s) as well - who're expecting Magik Series sounding sets... as this is what they associate tiesto with.. hihi... times have changed and the set has developed a lot tighter mixes, and a lot darker musically... but hey - it fits with today. Tiesto is still the best and there are a few thousand people who'd agree on that one.

the way some people are acting you would think i had offended their mothers.

DJs styles are allowed to change, im not the style police, but cant i be dissapointed when he has changed his style to what i think is for the worse?

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Originally posted by TiksA You don't need to go see a good techno dj for techno or whatever your saying. Carl Cox is meant to be one of the most respected techno djs and when i saw him live few weeks ago he played house, techno, some dance bootlegs and trance. It was most likely the best night @ Family for the whole year as all the people have said that.

i can go buy a few techno records, play them, and mix them like trance. That doesnt make me a techno DJ and it doesnt make tiesto a techno dj either. Carl Cox, Ben Sims, etc, have much superior technical skills, and i have no doubt that carl cox played some of those genres and made it sound relatively good. IN MY OPINION tiesto doesnt.

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