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i really suck at mastering.

help me. its one of my biggest problems.

any good websites / tuts on this? i never read tuts, but i really need to for this.

i'm using reason 2.0 (i can't get a hole of 2.5 )

ehm.... how about SEARCHING?????

or just check the posts aboe that is sticky and you will notice a thread there... there is other's too

the search button should really be made bigger or something.. hmmmmm

you can't master in Reason. You can mix everything, but not master. You will need either a wave editor (sound forge, Wave lab) or one of those mastering packages like T-Racks

Hey,

You shouldnt really need be mastering, most will know if you use the mixer in reason carefully and pay attention to the audio clipping red light in the bottom left then you are playing safe, same goes for cubase and any other sequencers, for now just worry about making rad inovate music

Hope this helps, if your music does sound bad though, just lsiten to your favourite artisst and listen to how there kicks, hi hats, basslines sit in there tunes....this will give you a good indication of what you are doing wrong

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Originally posted by hey cheggy you can't master in Reason

Well the fact that reason 2.0 didn't employ any form of multiband compression made mastering impossible...

But 2.5 is MORE then capable of making an excellent master, especially if you know what you're doing

Also there's an excellent guide and links on mastering on the reason website www.propellerheads.com

just click "Articles" and then "Mastering Mastering"

I agree with Hey cheggy. I used T Rack and its very good.

gelatinpuff: Reason in it's current state will never be even close to goood when it comes to mastering, it's a sequencer...nothing else

what mastering really is about is to get as close possible to 0db without clipping, this involves some compressing, EQing and in the end some mad squashing with a limiter...

what you do first is to enhanche the parts that lacks power in comparison with the rest of the mix with the help of an equalizer..

then it will look something like this:


after that you need to even out the peaks with the anti-peaks so they land on the same level

this is where the compressor comes in. What the compressor does is basicly flattening the sound out (but beware, it flattens out at the cost of dynamics..if you overcompress your track will sound boring and to flat)

well anyway, when you've compressed the track the more intensive areas will land on about the same level so it will look something like this:


of course this is extremly overcompressed just to show you clearly how it should look

well well, now that we have the peaks at about the same level what's the next step?

Maximizing the volume of course...
have you ever wondered why your tracks volume is so much lower than the other standard-tracks out there? this is the answer

what you do with the maximizing is basicly to squash the volume up to around -0.5db, this is why the compressing was so important. Now that we have a mix without any annoying peaks we can maximize the whole mix to around -0.5db without thoose small peaks going over 0db and therefore creates clipping

well when you've come this far youre actually done

this is just basics about mastering and what has to be done, of course you can add more steps like stereospreading, more EQing and stuff like that but basicly if you have a good mixdown this is all you need to do


the tools I used for the mastering on the pictures are Waves C1 compressor, Waves EQ's and Waves L2 Ultramaximizer

The quality of your monitors is also important. Using a pair of flat frequency response monitors will help out a lot.

hey vizay...are you tony ullman??

floorfiller: haha nope actually not but he's a very close friend to me. I'm the Pete-L part...we come together and produce every now and then when we have time for it

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Originally posted by Scottaculous The quality of your monitors is also important. Using a pair of flat frequency response monitors will help out a lot.

most pro-ME's actually don't use flat frequency reference monitors...
they tend to like regular high-quality speakers instead for some reason, coz in the end, the regular listener don't use studio-monitors, they use regular speakers

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Originally posted by Vizay most pro-ME's actually don't use flat frequency reference monitors... they tend to like regular high-quality speakers instead for some reason, coz in the end, the regular listener don't use studio-monitors, they use regular speakers

That may be true for more commerical music but I'm assuming BTG is making a dance track. A dance track to be played in a professional club environment. With lower quality speakers the bass is always too low and the prodcuer tends to over compensate for it and make a overly boomy track.

That's mixing. You use near fields to mix everything how you want it. You won't find too many mastering studios with near fields in them though.

Mastering studios do not use nearfields because of their inability to reproduce some of the lowest frequencies in a song. One of the great mastering engineers Bob Katz uses custom studio speakers with custom amplifiers and a subwoofer. A subwoofer is the only way to check on those low frequencies that would appear in a typical dance club. In other words, if you want to master your own material you can try, but it's better off if the proffesional does it for you.
They are not called mastering enginneers for nothing. It takes a master to give your song a final polish and produce a masterpiece.

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Originally posted by Scottaculous That may be true for more commerical music but I'm assuming BTG is making a dance track. A dance track to be played in a professional club environment. With lower quality speakers the bass is always too low and the prodcuer tends to over compensate for it and make a overly boomy track.

who have talked about low quality speakers???
no one..... vizay said that instead of using flat freq. monitors, they use HIGH quality speakers instead since regular listerners doesn't use studio monitors anyway.. they use normal speakers...

dbl said exactly what I was about to say....I mean isn't it pretty obvious that you shouldn't use low-quality speakers when producing and mastering?

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