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Posted by Poncho on Dec-27-2003 06:34:

Does america hate electronica?

Everytime i walk into a cd shop they have these huge sections for like rap, rock, oldies, r&b, and the rest of the crap that's out there. Always though, they have like one or two shelves that are for "Dance/Techno".

Ticks me off.

I can't even get UNKLEs new cd because no where here sells it.

Maybe it's just the places that I shop in. My usual place to go buy music at is Bestbuy, or Mediaplay. But even in other stores it just seems that us tranceaddicts get the shaft.


Posted by torontotrance on Dec-27-2003 06:36:

No, stores sell what sells or makes them profit. CD'S have never really been huge profit margins for cd stores. So they shift a ton of units of shitty pop cd's at low margins, they make more money than selling a cd at a high margin. The scene is huge in the States, it's just they sell what makes them profit, afterall it's why they are in business in the first place. Then again it's a gripe that many of us have had for yrs.


Posted by Poncho on Dec-27-2003 06:41:

dirty bastards. something must be done.


Posted by Perfect_Cheezit on Dec-27-2003 06:48:

as said, stores sell what makes them money. in the states, for every person who prefers electronica there are a dozen who prefer pop, and if each buys a cd thatll cost 10-15 bucks, stores are probably gonna stock more of what sells


Posted by TeKnoHe@d2025 on Dec-27-2003 06:53:

Re: Does america hate electronica?

quote:
Originally posted by Poncho
I can't even get UNKLEs new cd because no where here sells it.

Maybe it's just the places that I shop in. My usual place to go buy music at is Bestbuy, or Mediaplay. But even in other stores it just seems that us tranceaddicts get the shaft.


Yay, another Pittsburgh TA. No, it's not just the places you shop in. Hardly any stores around here have a good electronica selection. Surprisingly you can find some good vinyls in the store called "Hot Topic" which is usually in a mall. I've found stuff like Tiesto's "In My Memory" vinyl, Matt Darey's "MDM- Mash it Up", plus quite a few DuMonde remixes on vinyl.

This place sucks for quality trance/electronica CDs though, that's why I have a VERY limited collection of retail trance CDs.


Posted by torontotrance on Dec-27-2003 06:55:

HMV in toronto where I live has a decent selection, not the greatest..they carry some gu's, some electronic music cd's. I bought never never land for 14.99 and 19.99 the chemical brothers 2cd. Other cd's they sell are rediculously overpriced...means you need to go elsewhere to find the cd at a better price. I've said to HMV...sell at a better price..= less piracy and more ppl buying it.


Posted by Poncho on Dec-27-2003 08:32:

hot topic sells techno? I thought they were a punk/emo kinda store. I'll have to stop in and see what's up. I'm from the Northside Pittsburgh


Posted by Carl0s on Dec-27-2003 08:38:

Tower Records always has some good trance shit. But the downside to it, is that they are a couple bucks more than everyone else. I dont just buy trance cds, so ill get something in rock like Tool, I end up paying 3 or 4 bucks more than I would at best buy.

But I continue to shop at Tower because of their selection. Its sort of my way of saying thank you for stocking the trance albums.


Posted by buddy on Dec-27-2003 09:10:

quote:
Surprisingly you can find some good vinyls in the store called "Hot Topic" which is usually in a mall.


I live in Ohio, and i was shocked to find that Hot Topic carries some decent 12". I hate going into that store for anything, but with the selection they provide, I try not to complain too much


Posted by davidderail on Dec-27-2003 10:14:

i agree that stores sell what makes them money. however, most stores will order what you want...including bestbuy. try to find a smaller, more independant store, and support it.


Posted by ASOT100 on Dec-27-2003 10:40:

America doesn't have the attention span for good electronica


Posted by Acid John on Dec-27-2003 10:47:

hot topic has a majority of punk/metal/goth/emo kinda stuff, but in general, they cater to everything that isnt mainstream. which includes trance. if u go in, dont expect to find more than a rack or two of vinyl... most of it is limited pressings or rock tunes, or some rap... but what little trance they do carry is pretty good

yea, i kno aobut this stuff aside from being a tranceaddict, im definately into rock, aswell, so im in and out of hot topic on a regular basis


Posted by Carl0s on Dec-27-2003 11:10:

quote:
Originally posted by ASOT100
America doesn't have the attention span for good electronica


Not the general population, but there is a decent size population of "electronica" followers.


Posted by Perfect_Cheezit on Dec-27-2003 11:29:

I found Suburban Train in Hot Topic, that was about it though
they had Christopher Lawrence...not a terribly big fan of his tho


Posted by shawn2331 on Dec-27-2003 13:22:

sorry to say it but alot of americans, including alot of my friends, are close minded fucks that won't even try and get into it.


Posted by Carl0s on Dec-27-2003 14:10:

quote:
Originally posted by shawn2331
sorry to say it but alot of americans, including alot of my friends, are close minded fucks that won't even try and get into it.


When I was in high school, I was "talking" to this chick, and one day I was giving her a ride home from school I think, I dont know where we were coming from but I know it was on the way to her house to drop her off, but anyway I had some trance music and she was like "Carlos, What is this?(with a disgusted face)" So I go, its called trance, its some kind of music that I listen to. Then I changed the subject.


Posted by Psionic on Dec-27-2003 15:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Poncho
dirty bastards. something must be done.



Let's go burn down every Sam Goody!!!



But seriously, I thought the same way until I went to the Virgin Megastore in NYC. You'd be VERY surprised how much electronica they have. (I saw like all the Global Underground CDs, Gatecrasher, Godskitchen, individual artist albums, etc.) In fact, I'm going there this coming Friday I think to stock up


Posted by Psionic on Dec-27-2003 15:27:

Oh I forgot to add! Unlike the other stores, Virgin Megastore (I guess because of its size) has a WHOLE section of the bottom floor devoted to electronica, with no incorrect labelling like Sam Goody does.


Posted by mezzir on Dec-27-2003 15:31:

quote:
Originally posted by ASOT100
America doesn't have the attention span for good electronica

QUOTE OF THE F---ING YEAR
cause its so true


Posted by ++ EGO ++ on Dec-27-2003 15:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Carl0s
When I was in high school, I was "talking" to this chick, and one day I was giving her a ride home from school I think, I dont know where we were coming from but I know it was on the way to her house to drop her off, but anyway I had some trance music and she was like "Carlos, What is this?(with a disgusted face)" So I go, its called trance, its some kind of music that I listen to. Then I changed the subject.


TOTALY!
then they go about candy ravers & the use of drugs...

Anyways--
Ok so we don't see much electronica out there these days, it's not because of hate or dislike. Well maybe dislike, but look at what TV is advertising to the main public these days. LISTEN TO THIS - DRESS LIKE THAT - ACT LIKE HIM/HER... Whatever it is, ya know? These people are being handed their lifestyle, not to say it's wrong, but they also start to only follow that particular trend while neglecting everything else and that's when I would start to worry.
I'm pretty sure though, in a couple of years, people will start to grow out of the whole punk-rockstar or guru-rapstar and the media will turn their complete attention to electronica as a whole. And all of the sudden, ppl will like it!?


Posted by igottaknow on Dec-27-2003 15:42:

quote:
Originally posted by mezzir
QUOTE OF THE F---ING YEAR
cause its so true

that's not true...wait a sec my cell is ringing...what were you saying?...sorry got to go...lets pick this up later...


Posted by _Nut_ on Dec-27-2003 17:22:

Of all the places, check out Borders.

The one in my college town (DeKalb, IL) which is in the middle of nowhere, has a big ass selection of EDM. From chicago house to prog to trance to HHC of all things. Last time i was in I saw basically the whole tiesticle collection (Magik 3 and up) to Nyana. Saw many Ferry Corsten albums, Oakenbloke and every armin album including BOTI. They had scumfrog to goldie and on. There were well over 1000 albums and CD singles. You should check it out.


Posted by TuanAnh213 on Dec-27-2003 18:15:

quote:
Originally posted by _Nut_
Of all the places, check out Borders.



Borders is definitely the place to go here in america for trance...more of a high end barnes and noble...the one in my town where i go for college had all the Magiks, all of ferry's albums, PVD, you name it


Posted by _Nut_ on Dec-27-2003 18:17:

quote:
Originally posted by TuanAnh213
Borders is definitely the place to go here in america for trance...more of a high end barnes and noble...the one in my town where i go for college had all the Magiks, all of ferry's albums, PVD, you name it


Sad fact...

Borders = Barnes & Noble

They are owned by the same parent company.. therefore they compete against themselves


Posted by Streakfury on Dec-27-2003 18:47:

I went over to America (New York) a few of years ago (before I was as heavily into the scene as I am now) and I went looking for trance CD's and there was none. Absolutely nothing. My mate was in his element with all the rock and stuff, but I was just standing around doing nowt.

Quite disappointing really, but at least I live in the UK where everythings cool.


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