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Posted by T_2199 on Dec-28-2003 19:17:

"With IPod, Who Needs a Turntable?"

I just found this article and I think it�s fun reading it

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NEW YORK -- Yesterday it was jukeboxes. Today, it's the ipod.

An upscale New York nightclub has set up a unique DJ booth complete with a pair of iPods. The catch -- Patrons are invited to be the DJs.

The club is called Apt. (pronounced A-P-T), a trendy lounge in Manhattan's meat packing district decorated to resemble a tony New York apartment. Housed in an anonymous warehouse at 419 West 13th St., the bar thrives on obscurity. There is no sign outside and no website.

Next to the dark wood bar is the DJ table. The set-up revolves around a standard mixer, which allows the DJ to fade between two music sources. But instead of the two standard turntables, a pair of iPods have been substituted.

One is a 5-GB model containing about 1,000 songs, the other a 10-GB model with 2,000 songs. Connected by headphone jacks, the iPods sit on Plexiglass blocks, one on each side of the mixer.

Would-be DJs take a numbered ticket from a deli-style dispenser next to the DJ desk. A stack of print-outs of all 3,000 songs are available to help DJs prepare their set list. The print-out also provides a quick guide to DJ etiquette, including the rule, "Playing of any heavy metal ballads will result in immediate expulsion from the premises."

With 3,000 songs to choose from, patrons play everything from Black Sabbath to Basement Jaxx.

Everyone gets seven minutes to play a set; the time is counted down on a giant digital clock placed in front of the mixer.

Matt Maland, 27, a part-time DJ, has even figured out how to make the iPods scratch. By hitting the center button twice in quick succession, the music backs up a fraction.

"It's not really scratching," he said. "It's a phony effect. People don't throw their hands in the air, but it's amusing I guess."

Maland has played at Apt. three or four times recently. "It's fun," he said. "It's different. It's a challenge. You have to think what songs go together more than vinyl because you can't beat-match."

Maland said he hadn't come across a similar set-up anywhere else in New York. "It's funny because it's kind of an obvious idea," he said.

The iPod DJ set-up has been operating for just over one month, and provides hours of boozy, gregarious fun. Half the bar crowds around the mixing desk, offering advice or criticism or just dancing away.

"It's pretty easy," said Sai Blount, the lounge's music promoter, who spends most evenings manning the set-up, patiently helping people. "We made the whole mixing thing pretty simple for them."

Blount said iPod DJ-ing has become a major attraction. The fun starts at 9:30 and runs until 3 or 4 a.m., every night of the week.

It gets pretty crazy," she said. "We have people yelling. Some people boo. A couple of girls came in here three or four weeks in a row. They got really good. They were like professional."

A lot of the customers had iPods or expensive cell phones sitting on their tables. One woman proudly showed off her $13,000 (she claimed) white gold cell phone she'd just dropped out of a second-story window (it survived). Blount said patrons often bring their own iPods to spin their set.

The staff initially uploaded about 900 songs on the iPods, drawing heavily on a list of Beck's iPod collection recently published in The New York Times Magazine.

The bar has started a request list for customers to add their favorites. "We get a lot so the manager or the staff are always taking the iPods home with them to load them up," Blount said.

Downstairs the bar has a large basement dance floor where professional DJs from New York and Europe play.

Scary ... !


Posted by Dmatrox on Dec-28-2003 19:23:

Tell me how you are going to beatmatch dance music? This has been brought up before, but i dont see it as a problem. Ipod doesnt let you change the pitch of your tunes, so mixing is probably a fade in fade out kinda thing


Posted by fitom tiel on Dec-28-2003 19:30:

ridiculous


Posted by T_2199 on Dec-28-2003 19:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Dmatrox
Tell me how you are going to beatmatch dance music? This has been brought up before, but i dont see it as a problem. Ipod doesnt let you change the pitch of your tunes, so mixing is probably a fade in fade out kinda thing


Well he says: "You have to think what songs go together more than vinyl because you can't beat-match."

I can�t comment this shit right now because I�m missing the right words


Posted by Ding Chavez on Dec-29-2003 08:47:

Go read about the godfather of Dj's Francis Grasso. He did it 30 years ago without beatmatching, wihtout the iPod's though


Posted by verminator on Dec-29-2003 09:27:

if you look hard enough, you will find a Richie Hawtin w/ Ipod liveset..

pics etc @ apple.com months ago - kinda funny pics hehe


2xIpod connected to a mixer


Posted by ASOT100 on Dec-29-2003 09:48:

uh i don't quite see the amusement in this, how can u make anything sound good without beatmatching and only 7 mins


Posted by tu_face on Dec-29-2003 12:16:

it does sound a bit shite...


Posted by Orko on Dec-29-2003 14:57:

i saw a clip of this on cnn not too long ago, i thought it was pretty cool. They are creating an interactive club experience.

quote:
Originally posted by ASOT100
uh i don't quite see the amusement in this, how can u make anything sound good without beatmatching and only 7 mins


you have to realize that most of the people probably wont be playing trance/house, but rather pop or rock or hip hop, and that means 2-4 min songs. so you can get a few in there. Plus most of the songs may not have a lead in beat to beat match with. Just gotta get good at smooth fades, rather than beat matching. i can be done, hip hop djs do it all the time, and well may i add.


Posted by keithos27 on Dec-29-2003 17:07:

guys no need to get all pissed off... it's just a marketing gimic... something to pull in the crowds and allow them to interact. this doesn't mean the death of the dj, lol.

-keith


Posted by holycow24 on Dec-29-2003 17:43:

i think this is a pretty neat idea, letting everyone sign up for 7 min sets like that.

maybe i will go try it out sometime with my bf... he'd get a kick out of it. plus, it's one of the first places we ever went together when we first met, so I've got a bit of a soft spot for that place.


Posted by kokanee on Dec-29-2003 22:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Orko
i saw a clip of this on cnn not too long ago, i thought it was pretty cool. They are creating an interactive club experience.


Saw the same one It did look kinda interesting though

kokanee


Posted by Luke on Dec-29-2003 22:51:

hopefully they have obtained all those mp3s legally.. cause i see the RIAA closing that place down fast


Posted by sleepydragon on Dec-29-2003 23:18:

lol what crap its making me laugh just thinking bout it


Posted by sleepydragon on Dec-29-2003 23:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Luke
hopefully they have obtained all those mp3s legally.. cause i see the RIAA closing that place down fast


good point but id presume that the tunes would be ripped of cds


Posted by VaNFeCto on Dec-30-2003 03:03:

Stupidest shit Ive ever heard of period.


Posted by DJDigDug on Dec-30-2003 06:28:

just because ipods cost nearly as much as turn tables doesnt mean they are turn tables, whole thing sounds pretty fucking stupid to me


Posted by RaVeRSurGe_NYTA on Dec-30-2003 17:09:

rofl; just realized thats true... ipods do cost as much as turntables; rofl... WHATS THE POINT!!!! so silly!


Posted by Ding Chavez on Dec-30-2003 17:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Orko
you have to realize that most of the people probably wont be playing trance/house, but rather pop or rock or hip hop, and that means 2-4 min songs. so you can get a few in there. Plus most of the songs may not have a lead in beat to beat match with. Just gotta get good at smooth fades, rather than beat matching. i can be done, hip hop djs do it all the time, and well may i add.


At least one sane person replied to this thread.


Posted by UltimaGT on Jan-02-2004 07:07:

I just saw this on CNN, it didn't look all that bad, I mean it's not for the avid EDM listener, more just a easy going everyone is the DJ sort of thing, and I'm sure apple will quickly learn to market to this, just like everything else



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