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nik this was a mint remix of nudawn
haha
nik this was a mint remix of nudawn "was" - meaning hes just deleted it
lol
lol
meaning it was a track made a long while ago...sounding like nudawn

well no
because it still exists
so "is"
would be correct
"was"
meaning paste tense
past ^

* coup|awai cough
twat

it will always exist
:P
my point
thank you for proving urself wrong
and it still exists on lukes hd
therefore...not past tense
lol
so if it exists
lukes english was incorrect
no
because it was made
so u did delete it
nearly a year ago
and?
so was
it is not currently being produced
so is not is
the thing in question reguardless when made still exists
"was"
referes to something in the past
even tho it was made then
its still alive today
ur mum doesnt say
"luke was a nice kid"
to ur gran
she says
"luke is a nice kid"
so on that point alone
i win.
no
wot did u get for english gcse ?
prove me wrong
hehe
today
lam
whos right
newcastle lost the football match
newcastle are still not losing the football match
the match is over
teh game finished
the track is not
exactly
ur wrong
the remix is over
no its not
it was finished
u can still play it
a year ago
your point??
my point is u are wrong
the piece has been complete
coup
what did u get for english gcse?
C
i got A*
and?
shut your face now
no
u are wrong
you are blatantly wrong
shall we take this to the forums?
omg you guys stillgoing on about that is/was thing?
yes
whos right
do it
don't give a shit
lol
ill put it in COR so it blends in with the rest of the crap
lol
End of #ukta buffer Sun Dec 28 23:23:01 2003


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i think that both are correct, but you people are the ones who's english

quote:

Originally posted by paranoik0 i think that both are correct, but you people are the ones who's english

who're not who's.


Since it is a grammar thread after all

Depending on context both are correct, but in the current context it appears that (though I cringe to say it) coup is correct in his assertion that the proper use should be "is".

MrS

i did have a feeling that sentence was wrong

/me laughs at Luke.

quote:

Originally posted by MrSquirrel who're not who's. Since it is a grammar thread after all Depending on context both are correct, but in the current context it appears that (though I cringe to say it) coup is correct in his assertion that the proper use should be "is". MrS

Surely you cant abbreviate "who are" to "who're" !

I'm following coups line of thought tbh.

Having just completed my English Literature BA degree in the summer gone by I think I may be able to help. Both are correct, assuming I have read the chat log right, as the remix was completed in the past and is being played in the present. Nobody has been silly enough to suggest the future tense at least! Personally, I along with most of the british speaking population would use past tense in the scenario, although both are correct. The use of the football match is quite a good one, with the obvious point that it could be recorded and watched later... However the outcome would still be the same, the loss of the game. It therefore makes me inclined to side with Luke_Terry.

Also abbreviating to who're is not something you would want to do in the Amsterdam red light district in idle conversation!

quote:

Originally posted by Indicative Also abbreviating to who're is not something you would want to do in the Amsterdam red light district in idle conversation!

That wouldnt matter with the likes of luke and i. With us both being geordies i can assertively say we could say bloody anything over there and no-one would have a fuckin clue what we were going on about! i think the geordie dialect is on the verge of becomming a language in some senses.

quote:

Originally posted by Indicative Personally, I along with most of the british speaking population would use past tense in the scenario, although both are correct.

the past tense referes to something thats "been and gone". Like "that was a nice car before we crashed it". as the car is now 'gone'. "that was a cool PC before it broke", as the PC is no longer in existance. reguardless when the track was made, its still in existance today, and still exists like any other track, even one made last night. u dont say "bt - flaming june was a nice track", because its not dead. u say "flaming june is a good track". so as the track is still in existance, it has to be is. not was.

quote:

Originally posted by MK-S Surely you cant abbreviate "who are" to "who're" !

There is nothing technically wrong with it. I would usually say "who are" but I was correcting more his use of the plural/singular forms and wanted to keep the contractions as a matter of consistency.

That being said......I am an American and we have a slightly different set of rules for what is proper word usage.

i.e. When speaking of an ill person the British would say:

"David was in hospital for two weeks."

Whereas, the proper usage in America would be:

"David was in the hospital for two weeks."


MrS

quote:

Originally posted by Coup u say "flaming june is a good track". so as the track is still in existance, it has to be is. not was.

you could, but more likely we would say back in the day flaming june was a mint tune. bleh, not that it matters.

and for this i would like to award a big

quote:

Also abbreviating to who're is not something you would want to do in the Amsterdam red light district in idle conversation!

quote:

Originally posted by Luke Terry you could, but more likely we would say back in the day flaming june was a mint tune. bleh, not that it matters.

its still a mint tune to this day, that is my argument. flaming june is a mint tune...

quote:

Originally posted by MrSquirrel There is nothing technically wrong with it. I would usually say "who are" but I was correcting more his use of the plural/singular forms and wanted to keep the contractions as a matter of consistency. That being said......I am an American and we have a slightly different set of rules for what is proper word usage. i.e. When speaking of an ill person the British would say: "David was in hospital for two weeks." Whereas, the proper usage in America would be: "David was in the hospital for two weeks." MrS

hospital breaks the rule tho. we normally would use the. think about it, if you said "david was in house for two weeks" or "david was down pub for two weeks" people would think you would you were from yorkshire.

quote:

Originally posted by Coup its still a mint tune to this day, that is my argument. flaming june is a mint tune...

you can still say flaming june was a mint tune tho

it's fairly easy to wind you up

You are both right and wrong once again!

The correct term would be; Flaming June was and still is a mint tune.

Luke Terry you are teh sux0r!

quote:

Originally posted by Luke Terry hospital breaks the rule tho. we normally would use the. think about it, if you said "david was in house for two weeks" or "david was down pub for two weeks" people would think you would you were from yorkshire.

That shows the major deficiency of the English language.

It is a conglomeration of words and phrases from so many different languages that is is mind boggling to try and figure out what exactly the rules are. People wonder why it is so hard to get decent voice recognition software and this is the reason...the language is illogical.

Don't get me wrong, I like English...but it is damn confusing at best.



MrS

quote:

Originally posted by MrSquirrel That shows the major deficiency of the English language. It is a conglomeration of words and phrases from so many different languages that is is mind boggling to try and figure out what exactly the rules are. People wonder why it is so hard to get decent voice recognition software and this is the reason...the language is illogical. Don't get me wrong, I like English...but it is damn confusing at best. MrS

true, i blame that entire reason why im shit at french as all the verbs and stuff move round the sentence and fuck with my brain.

and arctic im going to bed now, i shall think of you as i have a wee

quote:

Originally posted by arctic Luke Terry you are teh sux0r!

1337 sp34k is another problem.

Of course, it is coming from an Australian and most people up here couldn't understand one 90% of the time anyway.



MrS

quote:

Originally posted by MrSquirrel 1337 sp34k is another problem. Of course, it is coming from an Australian and most people up here couldn't understand one 90% of the time anyway. MrS

pwned

could say the same about American citizens mind

quote:

Originally posted by Ian^ pwned could say the same about American citizens mind

Ah-ha.....but American media has swamped the rest of the world so much that everyone can understand our accent because they watch our movies

But I can understand just about anyone, so I could care less.

Bargh.

MrS

two fucking quid!

It's simple, there are two events you are talking about here, hence the confusion.

The event of the remix or the abstract concept which has no definite beginning or ending of "goodness" of the track. Hence, is or was is (or was) correct. Forgive my grammatical errors...

haha, that's damn confusing now that I read it...

quote:

Originally posted by Coup two fucking quid!

Proof one should never trust the English (Ian in this case)

MrS

quote:

Originally posted by MrSquirrel There is nothing technically wrong with it. I would usually say "who are" but I was correcting more his use of the plural/singular forms and wanted to keep the contractions as a matter of consistency. MrS

The problem with "who're" is, if you miss the apostrophe (however you spell this) like most people do in that's, he's etc., you get a new, offensive word...

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