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Posted by Digital Aura on Dec-30-2003 21:24:

Cheggy<---

You said earlier in another thread...

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A midi file isn't an audio file, it contains all the different notes used. You need to make the synth sounds. Then, you can run the midi file into this and the synth that has this sound on it and it will play the notes out loud.

Ofcourse, I realize this. But one thing that has never been cleared up in my mind is this.
"You run the midi file (thru)..the synth..and it will play the notes"... So why does midi use stupid 128 GM sounds?? You're saying that MIDI is useful for manipulating the notes and events in your sequencer and can then be played back using "synth" sounds as opposed to the "brite piano" or "GM Violin" ???
If this is correct, then I finally understand why MIDI is good, but I still dont get why I have 128 GM sounds on this friggin Korg Trinity. What are they for?

Posted by ehcsztein on Dec-30-2003 21:49:

though this wasn't addressed to me i thought i'd jump in anyways...

GM sounds are often included as they are standard sounds for all devices...accordingly song 'X' played on device 'A' using GM sounds will sound the same as song 'X' played on device 'B' using GM sounds

it is all about standardization...the are especially useful when working on music for software etc where hardware won't be standardized for all end-users...(think multi media presentations)...as you can use your workstation to develop whilst knowing that the sounds will sound the same no matter the device...GM = GM = GM...etc

hope that helps a bit?

Posted by Dj Thy on Dec-30-2003 21:52:

I already explained that in another thread (and if I'm not mistaken, to you).

Those 128 sounds are there to provide a standard. So you made a tune with one synth/keyboard, when you play it on another synth, that follows GM standard too, you still can get a decent result.

But you don't need to use those sounds. It's all about which MIDI channel, bank and program the midi file is referring. Read up in the manual of your trinity (there's a pretty extensive chapter in the manual).

Think about it, if you paid shitloads of money on a Trinity, and it's only capable of playing back 128 same sounds over midi, that would be a big ripoff wouldn't it.

Posted by fl0w on Dec-30-2003 21:55:

MIDI was created as a unified attempt by all(?) major hardware manufacturers to provide an universal protocol for controlling notes and automation, and to replace the previous controllers CV (control voltage) and gate which varied greatly between different manufacturers.

So what a midifile does is exactly what cheggy said in the other thread, I guess the sounds are there just so you can actually listen to the midifile without running it through a synth (actually, what you hear when listening to a midifile in eg winamp is your soundcards sampled midi-instruments).

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Posted by Digital Aura on Dec-30-2003 21:57:

EUREKA!!

So...actually, that threw me off! MIDI doesn't limit you to 128 boring sounds... it's all in what you play it back thru.
Thanks...finally sunk in.

Posted by fl0w on Dec-30-2003 21:59:

Alright then

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Originally posted by ehcsztein
though this wasn't addressed to me i thought i'd jump in anyways...

Pretty stupid to adress a certain person when most ppl on this forums pretty much can answer.

Posted by Digital Aura on Dec-31-2003 04:50:

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Pretty stupid to adress a certain person when most ppl on this forums pretty much can answer.

hehe 2 true ... at the time though, he was online and was answering my other threads as fast as I could post them! ehhe