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Ishkur's guide of EDM and what they say about trance

http://www.di.fm/edmguide/edmguide.html

This had to be made by some diehard minimal fans, listening to which means 1337ness according to this guide. Trance is bashed all over. Imagine that Rank 1 - Airwave and System F - Exhale were put into category Trance/Not Trance (aka Crap). What a piece of bullshit.

You do know why Ishkur made this guide in the first place, don't you?

So he could watch people like you take it seriously and start threads about it, and then sit and laugh his ass off.

not good

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Originally posted by ehehe You do know why Ishkur made this guide in the first place, don't you? So he could watch people like you take it seriously and start threads about it, and then sit and laugh his ass off.

Ishkur needs to get a life

I thought we discussed this in many threads that ishkur was a clueless assclown and he did it for kicks. Then again, some of ta's on here thought about making our OWN one

Come on guys, everything you read on the net is true.

Go to that site (which has been talked about on this site for years now) and read the disclaimer.

I read it greg but what bothered me was that clueless noobies would read the site and forget the disclaimer. I want noobies to get the correct info....ishkur did a great job...making fun of genres...i wish he pissed on a few more...then again...i've done this electronic stuff for yrs now....and i know...i'm just more concerned with the noobies...hence why ta will make one.....one day.

"Trainwreck
A bold, inventive and impressive technique of beatmatching, that only the most highly-skilled of DJs can pull off, to give the music that much-revered "gym shoes in a laundry dryer" sound."

That says something about the seriousness of this site.

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Originally posted by torontotrance I thought we discussed this in many threads that ishkur was a clueless assclown and he did it for kicks. Then again, some of ta's on here thought about making our OWN one

Sadly lots of people from outside TA don't know this and take that crap seriously and refer to it elsewhere. I was given this link by my mate who told me to check it out... Somehow I didn't know that stupid site before. I was a bit dissapointed with what I saw.

I mean for the knowledge based experts....like ME!!....it's a right laugh because some songs are not even where they should be...it's a great laugh but the first one that he did....noobies refered to it over and over and over....which was tough...cuz then they came to me to ask questions and it took longer. Then again if noobies don't read the disclaimer..then they got massive problems.

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Originally posted by vmc Sadly lots of people from outside TA don't know this and take that crap seriously and refer to it elsewhere. I was given this link by my mate who told me to check it out... Somehow I didn't know that stupid site before. I was a bit dissapointed with what I saw.

Actually, Ishkur said this forum is the only one he knows of that takes the guide like a personal insult. Besides, airwave is ez-cheez...

cuz we know more about music than most.

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Originally posted by SuperFarStucker Actually, Ishkur said this forum is the only one he knows of that takes the guide like a personal insult.

maybe cause trance music is the more bashed style on there?

or we just define it to the extremes to which he clearly is making a parody of on that site

Oh come on. Just because Ishkur doesn't like the same music as you is no reason to hate him. In the "not trance" section you hate so much, he's just expressing his well founded annoyance with three minute breakdowns so beloved of Scot Project and co.

Turn your humour detectors on people.

fine, a joke, i've expressed enough of my opinions on this, but here's one more - if it misleads people and there's no alternative, it's stupid.



we must make a TA guide, seriously.

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Originally posted by whiskers fine, a joke, i've expressed enough of my opinions on this, but here's one more - if it misleads people and there's no alternative, it's stupid. we must make a TA guide, seriously.

when can we actually follow through with it?

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Originally posted by paranoik0 maybe cause trance music is the more bashed style on there?

No, it's not.
Two words: Speed Garage.

And he does have a point, by the way, 3-minute long breakdowns are annoying. Stop being so touchy!

By the way, I'm against a TA guide unless it's made carefully and without traces of elitism (and from what I read in these forums, I think this is something quite hard to achieve).

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Oh come on. Just because Ishkur doesn't like the same music as you is no reason to hate him. In the "not trance" section you hate so much, he's just expressing his well founded annoyance with three minute breakdowns so beloved of Scot Project and co. Turn your humour detectors on people.

precisely lol... people a bit trigger happy these days myself included, perhaps not on this issue though.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Oh come on. Just because Ishkur doesn't like the same music as you is no reason to hate him. In the "not trance" section you hate so much, he's just expressing his well founded annoyance with three minute breakdowns so beloved of Scot Project and co. Turn your humour detectors on people.

The 'guide' annoys me because other people are refering to it as to a serious source of knowledge of EDM (which it obviously isn't), not because Ishkur has other taste in mysic than me. TBH, I don't give a shit about what music he likes - it's his choice, I have nothing to it.

Look what he wrote about epic trance...fucking prick
He must be enjoying .50 Cents new record right now

We really do need a TA guide

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Originally posted by DJ Tom Look what he wrote about epic trance...fucking prick He must be enjoying .50 Cents new record right now We really do need a TA guide

I didn't know blind people could use the net.

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Originally posted by torontotrance I read it greg but what bothered me was that clueless noobies would read the site and forget the disclaimer. I want noobies to get the correct info....ishkur did a great job...making fun of genres...i wish he pissed on a few more...then again...i've done this electronic stuff for yrs now....and i know...i'm just more concerned with the noobies...hence why ta will make one.....one day.

You see that can never be done definitively. I am sure there will always be some "expert" saying you are wrong. Look at the posts made here with the headings "what genre is this". You have about 10-20 people saying something different, or the same but a little different. "this is Trance"... "no this is Trance with Tech influences and a hint of prog". Blah Blah Blah. A lot of the times these genres come down to personal opinions, and as we all know the world has an endless supply of those .

But if we can make a more accurate guide for noobies....holding out the songs that sit on the genre lines....it could help ppl trying to know more. The best way is listen to music..takes yrs to understand...but I'm all for helping others. True, some comes down to opinion but we tend to have a great deal of knowledge on this board and maybe we should put it to use.

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