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Do you buy more or less music since P2P?
I don't think there's any doubt that since p2p arrived more people listen to more music than any other time in history, but does this translate into more moolah for the artists? (Yes, I know fat record execs get all the money etc etc, bla bla bla - let's not get into the many arguments and counter arguments on the benefits/problems of p2p, most of which are unsubstantiated. Let's just assume for the sake of this thread that the artists are getting a fair slice of their recorded sales).
Well, do ya or don't ya?
Definately a lot more in my case. P2P programs are the main reason for my involvement in EDM, since they provide me with samples of albums and artists I'm curious of. If I like what I hear, I'll track down material from them and buy it.
definitely less.
the lack of availability of the music i like, plays a big part in that..
way more, i hear songs and i go out and buy the cd. before i never new what i was looking for and i'd spend ages trying to find sumthin i lyk
I havent bought a CD since i got broadband. Also in Chicago Electronica music isnt as available as it is in Europe so I mostly use Kazaa & download the stuff for free. Also I mainly download live sets from my favorite DJ's & you cant find that shit anywhere in the States.
quit the lame excuses, if you really wanted to buy cd's then you would via ebay or amazon.com. You are just a shameless NON CD BUYER and people like you kill the scene
since napster....i've bought more cd's than ever.
I didn't buy albums at all until I found P2P. Allowed me to experiment and find what I like, discover stuff I never would have heard of otherwise. There was no way I was going to pay 20 bucks for an album that I've never heard or heard anything about, so I download a few songs, I like it, then I go buy it.
I don't buy music very much, but thats due to money constraints. Highschool students have no money.
i pay less, because as a student, you don't have that much money to buy a lot of records.
more. just ordered my first 4 vinyls
A lot more.
File sharing + turntables = insatiable thirst for vinyl and empty wallet
There's no way I would have bought all the records I have without having heard them first. Take that, record companies.
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| Originally posted by TwoPlow I didn't buy albums at all until I found P2P. Allowed me to experiment and find what I like, discover stuff I never would have heard of otherwise. |
I voted "a lot more".
All this crap going around saying how we're stealing music. If it wasn't for mp3 downloads, i wouldn't have half the cd's i have now. Now with the internet people are exposed to what's out there. People dont want to spend $30 dollars, especially trance, because it's more expensive, on a CD that they dont know if it's good or not. They can listen to the tunes on their computer, and then decide, if it's worth buying, and a lot of the time it's not only the fact that you want the cd, it's to support the artist as well. So in conclusion, you take away internet mp3 downloads, and i'll garantee you that sales will descrease dramatically.

ive got alot more tunes hear something in a club go home and i get it
Same - None! Lol! Different way of pirating these days!
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Definitely a lot more, since I buy vinyls now. Were it not for filesharing programs and the widespread use of the mp3 codec I wouldn't have learned about EDM.
No, I take that back. I would have learned about it, but I definitely wouldn't have known nearly as much about it as I do today. And consequently not bought nearly as many records as I buy today.
More
Because of more income and lower prices of cd's, but also because I get to know about more music because of p2p. The more you like, the more you'll buy.
More
and without p2p, I wouldn't know any underground music at all
Hmm, interesting results. So far it looks like the fanatics buying cancels out the freeloader's freeloading
, with the end result being that p2p has no impact on sales.
I gotta say I'm still conflicted about p2p. Does it help the artists or does it rip them off. I'd really love to see a comprehensive independent study done on all the implications of this phenomenon.
For starters, if it wasn't for P2P, I wouldn't even know what the hell trance was...
But, after almost two years without buying any stuff (neither age to have my credit card, nor CD's available of it), now I began finding some stuff (Transparance, ISOS 3, Reflections) and, although I'm not swimming in money, I've spent my ���...
... for the health of the artist, and see if some more CD's appear in this wasteland.
... so, if you missed the point, I chose "A lot more".
The only thing that affects how much CDs/vinyl I buy is how much money I've got. I might download more if I'm low on funds and I can't wait any longer to hear tunes or something like that.
I still buy the same amount of music. I download it first and if I like it I buy it and if I dont like it I dont waste my hard earned money on it.
Def a lot less. I never did buy many cds even before i had a computer though. I had a few tapes though.
When I got into P2P the first thing I did was get a large 80s collection of the songs that I missed when I was a kid in the 80s.
Then I got into trance etc and found live mixes. Pretty much all I get now is live mixes and the only time i ever listen to music is in my car. At work I just listen to Radio One on realplayer. As far as I know I've never seen live mixes sold in stores.
Real CDs do sound better though than downloaded music. I can really tell in the car where I have a pretty good setup and the bass is def lacking in MP3s. They seem to be better when in 320kbit mode but less I can def tell. If there was an entire cd that blew me away i'd buy it but rarely i find an entire disc that is good.
As for opinion:
Well it can definetely help a lot of artists as there are people who buy them after listening to them plus sometimes its difficult to get true cd quality mp3s for audiophiles. However CDs are still VERY expensive for an old technology that should be probably $5-10 by now.
As for artists being ripped off. I think of it like this. People listen to artists music whether its free or not. Based on listening to their music we decide if we like them. If we like them we go see a live show (which we pay out the ass for) and buy merchandise, etc which is probably quadruple what they'd make anyways with record sales. So if they are so concerned about the money they should think of P2P as gaining more listeners and as an advertisement to get people to shows and buying merchindise (which can't be downloaded). They win in the end, and fly home in their private planes and then drive home to their mega mansions in their ferraris while the people paying $20 for a cd are getting ripped.
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| Originally posted by BadBadNeil As for artists being ripped off. I think of it like this. People listen to artists music whether its free or not. Based on listening to their music we decide if we like them. If we like them we go see a live show (which we pay out the ass for) and buy merchandise, etc which is probably quadruple what they'd make anyways with record sales. So if they are so concerned about the money they should think of P2P as gaining more listeners and as an advertisement to get people to shows and buying merchindise (which can't be downloaded). They win in the end, and fly home in their private planes and then drive home to their mega mansions in their ferraris while the people paying $20 for a cd are getting ripped. |
no-one's swimming in money neither makes merchandise, unless they're hugely famous, like tiesto or oakie.
You have to pay for music? What the...?!
cd-singles are way too expensive.
5 to 7 euro for 1 or 2 tracks, dream on....
and 20 to 25 euro for an album, lmao
10 euro's is a decent prize, and then i'm willing to buy original CD's
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