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Posted by Nemesis44 on Jan-01-2004 23:16:

Nemesis - When I Dearm of Angels

Hey folks,

Here's a little track that I wrote using my new FM7 (amongst other things).

When I Dream of Angels

8.05 Mins
140BPM
96kbps
5.5MB


Any advice or feedback is always greatly appreciated.


Kind regards and happy new year to you all
Nem


Posted by Digital Aura on Jan-02-2004 02:23:

wow!

Hey man thats great! Nice sounding synth!
Nice composition and syncopated rythms always good!
At 3:44 when you have that massive break the bass line needs to fade immediately (like you did at the 5 minute mark)...you have it sticking around a little too long IMO. And I'm not too keen on that whole build thereafter. I love the 6 note melody there...just needs something else and Im not sure what. I think probably that the additional chords coming in at 6:01 should maybe come in then or maybe introduce a counter melody.
But I like it Nem!!

P.S. Would you mind telling me what you use for sequencing software and what hardware you might be using?


Posted by Nemesis44 on Jan-02-2004 03:23:

Hey Digital Aura,

Thanks for listening.
I know what you are saying with the main bit needing something new such as a counter melody or strings etc. Been thinking that but just didn't get any inspiration to do it so I figured I would put the track down for a while until I get the urge.

I will however test to see what it sounds like with the bassline thingy at 3:44

The stuff I use is all in Fruity Loops. I do have a midi keyboard plugged in but no real hardware. I use two VSTs which are Z3TA+ and the FM7 and that's about it.

Thanks
Nem


Posted by Digital Aura on Jan-02-2004 03:50:

Dunno

good to know...i thought FL was a closed system and didnt accept VSTs but...im all confused about all these dang progs...hehehe

edit: just checked CHEGGY's post from my other thread and he DID in fact tell me FL accepts plugins but NOT hardware. CLARITY!


Posted by hey cheggy on Jan-02-2004 05:11:

Hey, sounding nice. The intro sounds good and the melody is cool too. Nicely put together. It goes on for a bit though without much variation.


Posted by shao on Jan-02-2004 05:18:

I agree... your instruments are great, but the melody is a bit too invariably for my tastes. I think if you bring up those sounds you start at 6:00 on, though, and bring them in earlier, though, you'd have a pretty nice song.


Posted by Nemesis44 on Jan-02-2004 11:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Digital Aura
good to know...i thought FL was a closed system and didnt accept VSTs but...im all confused about all these dang progs...hehehe

edit: just checked CHEGGY's post from my other thread and he DID in fact tell me FL accepts plugins but NOT hardware. CLARITY!


Hey DA,
I hate to confuse you even more but FL also has midi capabilities and does accept hardware in that sense.

Cheers
Nem


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jan-02-2004 12:17:

I think this track could do with cutting/rearranging some parts... the intro goes on for over 2 minutes with pretty much nothing to keep me interested.

The lead is pretty damn good though.

It's a shame we only get a 96kbps version though as it sounds so muffled throughout


Posted by Nemesis44 on Jan-02-2004 12:27:

Hey Thanks Mystery,

Yeah, I have felt that the intro probably needs to be shortened and did initially intend to do this. It is on my list of things to do with the track along with the other stuff mentioned earlier.

Thanks for listening.

Cheers
Nem


Posted by John on Jan-02-2004 15:39:

sounds nice! good synths and stuff, my only critisim would be that the meldoy gets a bit repetive towards the end. other then that nicely done

john


Posted by Nemesis44 on Jan-02-2004 15:57:

Thank you very much kind sir.

Cheers
Nem


Posted by hey cheggy on Jan-02-2004 16:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Nemesis44
Yeah, I have felt that the intro probably needs to be shortened and did initially intend to do this. It is on my list of things to do with the track along with the other stuff mentioned earlier.


You don't need to shorten it, just make it more interesting. Little percussion rolls, some crashed on the 1st down beat, build the percussion intensity gradually so that the energy levels keep building to the breadown. That's how it should be in my opinion.


Posted by Digital Aura on Jan-02-2004 16:41:

its unanimous then...

quote:
I think probably that the additional chords coming in at 6:01 should maybe come in (earlier)




quote:
I think if you bring up those sounds you start at 6:00 on, though, and bring them in earlier, though, you'd have a pretty nice song


hey..thats what I said! glad I can at least appreciate this genre the same as every other TA here and come up with the same consensus.


Posted by DJ-Fuq on Jan-02-2004 21:33:

Great tune. The mastering and a few samples could be better (put it through bbe sonic maximizer), but the melody is very nice. Any chance of a midi/score?


Posted by Nemesis44 on Jan-03-2004 00:19:

He he,

Funny you should mention mastering... I haven't done any... pretty clueless when it comes to that.
Not sure which samples you are refering to as the only sample (as in literally) is the 4/4 bass kick. The rest is all generated.

Thanks for listening though and I will definately give it a shot at mastering the darn thing, will do a bit of reading up on at and also perhaps invest in a mastering program.

I will also try and get the midi file posted for you.

By the way, does BBE sonic maximizer work with Fruity Loops?

Cheers
Nem


Posted by Syeker on Jan-03-2004 03:57:

Like it. The first two minutes wasn't into it but then it started to take form and damn i liked the result. The main lead is good stuff that's for sure even though it repeats a little bit. Too bad is 96kbps or else i would be playing this one loud


Posted by Nemesis44 on Jan-03-2004 04:25:

I might be tempted to make a Hi Fi version availabe.

Cheers
Nem


Posted by DJ-Fuq on Jan-03-2004 10:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Nemesis44
He he,

Funny you should mention mastering... I haven't done any... pretty clueless when it comes to that.
Not sure which samples you are refering to as the only sample (as in literally) is the 4/4 bass kick. The rest is all generated.

Well i meant the crash, snare and 1 or 2 of the hats
quote:
Thanks for listening though and I will definately give it a shot at mastering the darn thing, will do a bit of reading up on at and also perhaps invest in a mastering program.

I will also try and get the midi file posted for you.

By the way, does BBE sonic maximizer work with Fruity Loops?

Yeah, what i usually do is put a compressor (if needed) and sonic maximiser (set at about 6 6 5) on the master mixer track. It will make a huge difference, and if u eq right u might not have to master it afterwards.


Posted by BassAngel on Jan-03-2004 11:49:

Well, I pretty much agree with what was said but really want to encourage you about the bits at six minutes and beyond. They really add that certain something to the tune, be nice to maybe hear them in a breakdown earlier on by themselves and then bring something else in with them? Just a thought. Kind of eerie that single note, really works well.

EDIT: really like the clap as well and the rhythm is particularly good.


Posted by Nemesis44 on Jan-03-2004 18:00:

Thanks guys,

It's always good to read other peoples comments and ideas. I have learned so much from many of the people here in this thread and others.

so thanks again
Nem


Posted by capricorn15 on Jan-03-2004 20:36:

downloading now, ill give some feedback after i hear it =)



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