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Posted by [A|ienFactory] on Jan-10-2001 22:19:

Do you guys have any friends that don't like trance?
And thinks that you're wierd?? Man,that's annoying!!!
I have one friend.He claims that everything sounds identic,but that stupid bastard gets bored in allready a few seconds of a song,where there is nothing but the pure bassdrum,in the most tunes.Sometimes I laugh at him,man, what commercial shit he actuaally is listening to.That proves one thing:HE HAS NO MUSIC TASTE !

Person listens to commercial shit = Has no music taste or sense for music

Does anybody agree with that?

Posted by JdDark on Jan-10-2001 23:28:

I am one of the few off my class who listens to trance, except one guy, he listens to it, if you would ask who is dj Ti�sto, they would have no clue.
But that doesn't bother, I will never top listening to TRANCE!!!!!!!

JdDark

Posted by tc-fan on Jan-10-2001 23:42:

well at my job nobody likes trance. They think its all repetetive, and rap aint repetetive? yeah righ..all rap does is someone talking on the foreground with some annyoing repetetive beat in background. I am glad i am the only one listening to trance. Makes me an outsider. I dont want trance to go commercial and just overplay it like Nsync and B. Spears.

Posted by biznology on Jan-10-2001 23:59:

I don't think its fair to say that just cause someone likes commercial stuff that it means they have NO music taste. People say that about us and we love trance. I have probably heard that 'techno is shit' just as many times as I have heard commercial stuff is crap. We all have different musical tastes - I think that the best thing to do is realize ALL music has it's good parts and bad parts and everyone should be open minded. That said, you can personally not like some types, but you can't tell others what to like or not like. It's all about respect.
My friends do listen to some crap tho......peace.

Posted by Synder on Jan-11-2001 01:37:

I don't neccessarily blame him (It depends what his full explanation is) ... One of my friends likes GOA at parties but hates to listen to it outside of them... he can't stand in any way Melodic stuff because he, like myself is a musician... he feels that melodic trance is like pop in many ways... that is the melodies are easy as hell to compose ... any musician knows that if you play anything out of the major scale it'll sound happy and will work (I garantee it) ... also a lot of trance tracks follow the 1, 4, 5 progression (ie. listen to blues you'll hear the chord changes) .. he just feels that there is very little musicianship in creating melodic trance... I despite being a nutty trance junkie largely agree with him... I think there are a hell of a lot of bad trance tracks with absolutely no musicality to them.... there is none of the experimentalism which drove the creation of the music... that said ... there are some absolutely beautifully crafted tunes... being a composer find it extremely difficult to create something uplifting which isn't extremely cheezey...

Posted by Dj Furee on Jan-11-2001 02:24:

NONE of my close friends like trance!! it's only annoying when I beg them to go to a decent club with me

other than that, it's cool we have different taste cuz if my friends liked the stuff I'd make us listen and talk about it 24/7...

latez...

Posted by mindbender on Jan-11-2001 03:00:

My friends are clearly categorized into two main classes; those who go clubbing/raves & like trance and those who don't. Simple, eh? Basically I just do different things with different people. I understand that some of my friends don't like/understand trance the way I do, but they are entitled to their opinion as long as they don't get too annoying. For instance, I can't stand most british rock bands (sorry folks) due to number of reasons, but still I don't disrespect/flame people who like them.

I feel like I'm repeating myself here so the point is that like whatever you like and respect the fact that not everyone has equal taste. Actually one of my very close friends (who is a rocklady/teddy girl) got pretty excited about some of the trance tracks I played for her. She even came to couple of club events and she said she liked it. Cool, thumbs up. In return, I listened to some rock tunes she recommended (heh heh).

Trance gives me good vibes and energy... and I love it! If you get your kicks listening to death metal, so be it.

PLUR

Posted by RaverFriendly on Jan-11-2001 07:17:

My friends use to be the same...but slower they're coming to realize how wicked trance is. My rule is that when i drive in my car...only my live sets can be heard.. they actually like it now so it's all good. I also sometimes go to my friends house and download music on their computers...eventually they'll listen to it at home ..

what's really awesome is that my friend just yesterday asked me to make a cd for him... it just happened by the time i was done (after the list of songs were chosen by him).. 7 or the 13 were trance... hahaha IT's working

...and they're all going to PVD on the 10th....

BOOha ha ha ha ..

Posted by trancaholic on Jan-11-2001 11:59:

Some of you seem surprised that heavy/death/speed Metal-fans enjoy trance, but in fact the two genres have a lot in common, and if you look at hard-trance and techno the similarities become obvious: fast steady rhythms, "ugly"-sounds interleaved with harmonic sounds, aggressive bass-lines and lastly the "individual/swing your hands in the air"-dance of a rave bears some resemblance to the "shake your head/make satanic gestures with your fist and two fingers"-moves of a heavy metal concert.
In fact those of my friends who have commited to liking trance/techno-trax all have a background in Metallica etc.-kind of music, whereas those of my friends who are into pop/rock can't stand it (eventhough they respect the music for being "honest" in its origin, as opposed to e.g. Britney Spears).

I think that the point where electronica stands head and shoulders above heavy metal, though, is that we are not restricted to two guitars, one bass-player and the limitations of a human drummer and the size of his drum-setup. Finally we don't have to listen to to someone who parts snarls, part sings and part tries to fit the mike in his mouth

Posted by biznology on Jan-11-2001 18:02:

yep

I have noticed this too metal heads also seem attracted by the 'epicness' that a trance track can have. There are some pretty drawn out ballads in that type of music. peace.

Posted by SYNthSRI on Jan-11-2001 18:58:

reading the following postz...

here are the categoriez I've made up of the people around me...

1.) Close Minded Bigot -- you know the type I am referring to
2.) Simple Minded fool -- can't take an onslaught of harmoniez rushing at him/her
3.) Dumb Ass Listener -- people who listen to it when they are in clubz/eventz, but don't know jack shit about it.
4.) Eccentric Fanatic -- person who thinkz he/she knowz it all there is to know about it.
5.) Wash-Rinse-Repeat -- type who keepz on playing the same shit over and over and over...until they get rinsed out to dry!

if you guyz wanna add anything to else to this...be my guest

Posted by tu_face on Jan-11-2001 19:21:

lol @ wash rinse repeat!! I myself think that commercial shit gives REAL trance a bad name, u get all these so-called trance artists that only do it for the money and the fame... the true blue trance artists see the money as a bonus for doing something they love.

Some of my mates like trance some dont, but to be honest with u they never criticise me for it and me likewise with them. If pplz have different musical tastes thats cool so long as they dont force it on me!

If its one thing i hate though its someone sayin trance is crap, when they havent even listened to the shit...

Posted by Dj Furee on Jan-11-2001 20:46:

Whoaaaaaaa u guyz are harsh!!! Man let them listen to the commercial stuff, let them not know the trance they're listening to.. people are passionate about different things, life's a box of different chocolates, diversity is good.. But I took a few friends to a rave who never been in the summer and they loved the music (actually we spent quite a bit of time in the d n b room) I would like my friends to like what I like but wouldn't force it on them and they never force their music on me either..

latez...

Posted by [A|ienFactory] on Jan-11-2001 21:43:

I agree with tu_face .But sometimes I just can't stand the commercial stuff.I could never go to a regular party,I just can't stand it sometimes.It just makes me think about the music industry.All real talents are standing in the shadow of the commercial and "good looking" acts.

And the worst thing is that they use children to earn their billions.There isn't one single human been over 8 yrs old who has bought a britney CD,not that I know.That's sick.

They (the commercial acts)only produce for the money, they even admit that they have a hard time being celebrities.But they do want the money!They maybe like what they do,but what they do is earning money and not producing good music.Everything will sound identic soon.

And they are steeling elements from electronic music.
Most people thinks trance is boring cuz it's instrumental.But they have sure heard something similar with a bich singing in it.(I'm not against eurodance 93-95!)

And look at Blumchen!Nobody of her fans today has even heard about happy hardcore(95-96)!I can mach at least 5 tracks with every one of her songs from my old happy hardcore CDs!

Think about it!

PS.
I do absolutely not judge or hate anybody for their music taste!

Posted by DAPplayer on Jan-11-2001 23:47:

My opinion means little even to my self

If the trance ("good trance") we listen to gets played by the big radio stations and the media hypes it up too much sooner or later the trance we hear today will be become COMMERCIAL! And all your annoying friends who listen to whatever will start to say "hey i like that song by that fellow" and play it all the time.

Not alot of ppl like to admit they like certain music other than the "norm" they hear from the media. So they listen to all the commercial crap that gets about 500 plays a day on MTV and feel like they fit in with the crowd.

I live in the uk and dance / trance music is quite a popular thing. THIS WAS THE WORST thing to happen in the uk.

Example
operation blade - OVERPLAYED
Delerium Silence - OVERPLAYED

I first heard these songs b4 they were attacked but the media and an infinte amount of air time and i liked them.

errr
i feel i have drifted from my point...

Count yourself lucky if the music you like is not commercialised!! your friend will start liking it and then you'l be well pissed off.

Another thing, i belive the best music, is the music that reminds you of a certain thing or time in life where you have been you most happiest.

Posted by Dj Furee on Jan-12-2001 13:19:

I agree my favourite tunez are always ones that remind me of the good times, even if they're not like godsent tracks..

I dunno I agree that if trance was played constantly on the radio and tv, it would be commercial obviously but u would still have underground trance... I dunno I'm too tired about thinking of this and I probably sound like a broken record, I'm sorry for all you who have read this argument before, I just think that if something gets too popular, people will get bored and it will inspire new ideas and new types of music may emmerge from that so it's a good thing in a way..

latez...