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thinking about getting final scratch. yes or no
I say go for it, it's worth every penny. Becuase now I'm not worrying about the life of my vinyl's. Plus it's fun to use new tech. just like PVD, Josh Wink, to name a few.
yes
I'd def. go for it, someday I'll have to get FS myself!
Yes...once you've bought it tell us if it was a good decision made 
yes go for it. i bought it and i really coudln't put a price on it.. it adds life to my valued vinyl so i don't have to ruin them and is so much better then dragging around the crates or be restricted to certain tracks that i brought for that night.
Yes, if you have basic computer knowledge and some patience.
I wouldn't go for final crap
went to a party
It crashed when claude young was using it
It crashed when James Ruskin was using it, laughed my ass of when I saw him running to his vinyl bag and used vinyl for the rest of the time. Computers = crap on a party, use it at home.. They get overheated, they crash, humidity gets inside
1200's for life
pioneer has some cool stuff though emulating vinyl
I have seen Josh Wink play with vinyl and final scratch.
While new technology is always fun, anyone that thinks that finyl scratch is just like vinyl needs to think again. It is not as responsive.
It also made Josh Wink go from excellent DJ to fairly ordinary in terms of technique and must admit that I did not come away from that night feeling as good about him as I used to.
By all means get FS if you feel you want to but I think it's a waste of money and the above problems mentioned by DeZma also add an interesting twist.
Perhaps I look at it from a purist vinyl junky view but I just can't see why someone would want to make something like that... was there any need?
I can appreciate that it still uses vinyl though, which is perhaps a nice touch but if you are going to use vinyl to control it why not just play the vinyl anyway?
Ok so some big names use it. But a lot more don't.
Just out of interest does anyone know if PvD plays his whole set on it? I mean that as a genuine question.
I guess whatI would say to the original poster, try it first and see if it's for you. Would also be interested in hearing your verdict on it.
Cheers
Nem
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| Originally posted by Nemesis44 Just out of interest does anyone know if PvD plays his whole set on it? I mean that as a genuine question. |
I dont see the point of emulatng something that works perfectly fine as it is...
the only real advantage- as with a lot of digital stuff- is the portability.... (for the 10 mins it takes me to load my car i hate vinyl- then again for the 10 mins to unload it.....rest of the time i wouldnt change it for the world..)
Im off to work in 40 mins- i will probably play 5 cds from 9:30- 2am- not much more than that- i have 4 (big) boxes of hip hop/R&b in the car and one small cd wallet- but then i am a vinyl purist and have been doing this longer than some....
People new to djing may have started out with digital and it may be all they know.
Horses for courses- try it then decide if you like it- its not really a yes or no question, or decided on coolness factor.
You will get half the peeps on here saying no and the other half saying yes- and thats from a whole load of perspectives
thanks for all ur help, i'll let u guys know if i do end up getting it.
I have it and I love it. For those that don't think it's responsive, I imagine that they haven't used it. A decent computer can do all the work real time and have a delay of what amounts to a fraction of a millisecond. For those that are going to come on and say that they can hear or feel that fraction of a millisecond delay. Who do you really think you're fooling?
not me.
i believe its an amazing tool... just the same, i have seen it do
a minor fuckup or two. if i had the money, and excessive amounts
of vinyl, id probably seriously consider gettin it. John Acquaviva
threw an abusively amazing set with it here, so did Marco Carola
and DJ Stryke, and i wasnt able to tellit was FS till i saw the
setup.
for people that say "why emulate something that works so perfect?"
well, i think you're missing the point. no disrespect or anything,
i know many of you have been doing this long before i even knew
what it was, but i dont think the point of FS is to replace the
vinyl format. it still uses a vinyl, and even though it emits a
"timecode", it is quite responsive with the the music. my conception
on the whole deal is FS was made for those with too many vinyls,
those that have gotten their luggage screwed with one too many
times, or those who fear for the safety of their wax. it may also
prove to be useful for scratch DJ's, as i understand the FS vinyls
are rather cheap, you dont have to worry about abusing it, just
get a few extras.
there are still a few bugs and glitches, but short of having your
own vinyl press and making copies of your tracks (as is a great
advantage of CDs) FS is a pretty effective solution for those that
want to protect their vinyls. and well, having all your music on
your laptop is a definite plus. not to mention, for the vinyl junkies,
you could spin your own productions, edits, remixes, etc etc on
vinyl instead of CD. i think that is something to like (although
i quite like CD spinning).
to each his own i guess, and there are surely a few issues to be
resolved in the department of reliability, but i think for some DJs
FinalScratch can be a very nifty commodity, and for others, it might
almost become a necessity.
reminds me of when Steve Lawler came to spin here, how i was so
anxious to see him. it gets late. it gets later. where's lawler?
the promoter tells me he was held up at some stop and his vinyl
boxes were confiscated because they were metal and the US was on
hihg alert on terrorist attacks (his flight went thru US before
getting here). Steve calls up a DJ here, they go to his house,
pick out some records, and Steve improvs a 3 hour set. spun mostly
classics, excellent mixing. but it of course was rather shabby
compared to his normal work, not to mention he was scheduled to
spin 6 hours. had the magic of FS been involved, he could have
had his laptop with him, and all could have been avoided.
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| Originally posted by failsafe I have it and I love it. For those that don't think it's responsive, I imagine that they haven't used it. A decent computer can do all the work real time and have a delay of what amounts to a fraction of a millisecond. For those that are going to come on and say that they can hear or feel that fraction of a millisecond delay. Who do you really think you're fooling? not me. |
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| Originally posted by DeZmA I wouldn't go for final crap went to a party It crashed when claude young was using it It crashed when James Ruskin was using it, laughed my ass of when I saw him running to his vinyl bag and used vinyl for the rest of the time. Computers = crap on a party, use it at home.. They get overheated, they crash, humidity gets inside 1200's for life pioneer has some cool stuff though emulating vinyl |
Well,
I don't think he'll ever go on fs again 
on that party his first mix he was allready trainwrecking and it didn't stay with one bad mix. Music also stopped twice due to crash then he switched over to real vinyl.
But yea his technique is usually great I know.
what os were they running? i have heard good things w/ the linux/mac version.
It cost about 500$?
That's so much...and IMO I wouldn't trust it live in the club but it should be nice for home use 
After seeing what somebody like Paul van Dyk can do with FS, I'm totally sold. The set he played in To a few months back would have been impossible without the tools he was using.
Of course, many (including Mark Oliver on TA) have stated that few people use it the way he does... but it does show how powerful it can be when ya don't just use it to play MP3s you've downloaded and instead treat it as a new way to play music.
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