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Posted by Mrs.Spice on Jan-06-2004 22:13:

Why Can't New Clubs SURVIVE??

I went to Pulse Nightclub over the weekend and I was faced with the shock of my life after hearing so many good things about it. At about 2am there were maybe 10-15 people there at most. I got in free, even though I wasn't on the guestlist and it seemed like they were dying to let anyone in.
Same thing is true for Lotus which doesn't exist anymore as well as countless other clubs in Toronto. Why is it that people don't want to try out new clubs? I'm sure everyone knows about them since there are tons of flyers being handed out every weekend on the streets. Aside from the Guv and Reverb, I have nowhere to go in Toronto to listen to good music, (I'm not talking about the progressive BS they spin at System)-And Viva, I'm not even going to get that into that. I'm not about to wreck havoc on a dancefloor with no one around me, so where can I go when I'm not in the mood for the ginas of the Guv?

Posted by dEsidEL on Jan-06-2004 22:16:

maybe the scene in TO just isn't as big as we'd all like to think ..

Posted by drgoodvibe on Jan-06-2004 22:18:

this city is saturated by clubs and bars, theres almost too much choice really. Besides "dance" as we know is still not extremly popular.. go to a hiphop/pop/euro night at some club and it'll be rammed.

Posted by Euphoric on Jan-06-2004 22:52:

Posted by DigDeep on Jan-06-2004 23:42:

Boa will survive......TRUST ME.

Posted by Mrs.Spice on Jan-07-2004 00:53:

quote:
Originally posted by drgoodvibe
this city is saturated by clubs and bars, theres almost too much choice really. Besides "dance" as we know is still not extremly popular.. go to a hiphop/pop/euro night at some club and it'll be rammed.

I was actually talking about how crappy new clubs are turning out to be because no one goes to them for whatever reason. Mark Oliver spun at Lotus and no one went. Why? Even upstairs they had decent hip hop and Mark O's music is pretty mainstream.
Dance IS really popular in TO. The biggest club in the city plays it in their main room every Sat. night (The Guv).

Posted by Mrs.Spice on Jan-07-2004 00:54:

quote:
Originally posted by TECHno addict
Boa will survive......TRUST ME.

Boa's a gay club right? That's probably why. They're catering to only one kind of clientele.

Posted by DigDeep on Jan-07-2004 01:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Mrs.Spice
Boa's a gay club right? That's probably why. They're catering to only one kind of clientele.

Last time i checked im like the complete opposite of gay (not that theres anything wrong with it). Boa is an after hours club, not a gay club like ive heard from others as well. The clientele is anyone who....
a.)likes wicked ass international/local talent
b.)wants to experience the BEST sound system in the city
c.)doesnt mind paying a lil extra for more space, and no booze.
d.)wants to party til noon!!

Posted by Magnetonium on Jan-07-2004 02:22:

Re: Why Can't New Clubs SURVIVE??

quote:
Originally posted by Mrs.Spice
I went to Pulse Nightclub over the weekend and I was faced with the shock of my life after hearing so many good things about it. At about 2am there were maybe 10-15 people there at most. I got in free, even though I wasn't on the guestlist and it seemed like they were dying to let anyone in.
Same thing is true for Lotus which doesn't exist anymore as well as countless other clubs in Toronto. Why is it that people don't want to try out new clubs? I'm sure everyone knows about them since there are tons of flyers being handed out every weekend on the streets. Aside from the Guv and Reverb, I have nowhere to go in Toronto to listen to good music, (I'm not talking about the progressive BS they spin at System)-And Viva, I'm not even going to get that into that. I'm not about to wreck havoc on a dancefloor with no one around me, so where can I go when I'm not in the mood for the ginas of the Guv?

Sounds sad. But was the place OK at least? See, if I was from Toronto, I'd be clubbing almost every weekend, and I'd be there for sure to check the club out. But since it costs me around 20 bucks for transportation every single time to get to TO, and the fact that I am not rich ...

I was at Sound Emporium / Penthouse last month, and not only did the crown evaporourize by 3:30 AM (the DJing stopped at that moment), the bouncer treated me and my friend like shit, we had to pay twice the price (and bouncer was wrong), and the place wasnt so good either. Thank God the DJ was great and a few fellow friendly TAs were there to keep the vibe up. But as I said, I AM NEVER GOING TO SOUND EMPORIUM EVER EVER AGAIN, AND I SUGGEST NOONE TO GO THERE, ITS A SHITTY PLACE ALL OVER.

Posted by Mrs.Spice on Jan-07-2004 02:37:

quote:
Originally posted by TECHno addict
Last time i checked im like the complete opposite of gay (not that theres anything wrong with it). Boa is an after hours club, not a gay club like ive heard from others as well. The clientele is anyone who....
a.)likes wicked ass international/local talent
b.)wants to experience the BEST sound system in the city
c.)doesnt mind paying a lil extra for more space, and no booze.
d.)wants to party til noon!!

I'm guessing you're a promoter? No one else would talk like that lol. But I'm still to check it out. I heard that its about 50/50 with gay and straight...And are you saying that after hours can't be gay? Look at Stereo in Montreal or It or Fly in Toronto.

Posted by Mrs.Spice on Jan-07-2004 02:38:

Re: Re: Why Can't New Clubs SURVIVE??

quote:
Originally posted by Magnetonium

Sounds sad. But was the place OK at least? See, if I was from Toronto, I'd be clubbing almost every weekend, and I'd be there for sure to check the club out. But since it costs me around 20 bucks for transportation every single time to get to TO, and the fact that I am not rich ...

I was at Sound Emporium / Penthouse last month, and not only did the crown evaporourize by 3:30 AM (the DJing stopped at that moment), the bouncer treated me and my friend like shit, we had to pay twice the price (and bouncer was wrong), and the place wasnt so good either. Thank God the DJ was great and a few fellow friendly TAs were there to keep the vibe up. But as I said, I AM NEVER GOING TO SOUND EMPORIUM EVER EVER AGAIN, AND I SUGGEST NOONE TO GO THERE, ITS A SHITTY PLACE ALL OVER.

Well I didn't think I was going to get into this, but it was pretty small from what I could see, but apparently they have another room upstairs. Which, I should add, was closed because there weren't enough people there. Isn't there laws against fraud like this? I just feel really sorry for people who paid good money to get inside.

Posted by DigDeep on Jan-07-2004 02:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Mrs.Spice
I'm guessing you're a promoter? No one else would talk like that lol. But I'm still to check it out. I heard that its about 50/50 with gay and straight...And are you saying that after hours can't be gay? Look at Stereo in Montreal or It or Fly in Toronto.

Im not a promoter, just had a great experience there (like EVERYone else who was there for Sander K) and think its just what Toronto needs. It was no where close to 50/50. I bet maybe 1 out of 20 were gay (not that you can tell, im just guessing). I was actually surprised at the amount of hot WOMEN on this night. But it IS an afterhours club, so they must be lesbians right ? And did i say afterhours CANT be gay?!! Dont think so. I think there is a gay following anywhere you go clubbing in Toronto, and honestly doesnt bother me one bit as long as i dont get hit on.

Posted by Mrs.Spice on Jan-07-2004 02:49:

quote:
Originally posted by TECHno addict
Im not a promoter, just had a great experience there (like EVERYone else who was there for Sander K) and think its just what Toronto needs. It was no where close to 50/50. I bet maybe 1 out of 20 were gay (not that you can tell, im just guessing). I was actually surprised at the amount of hot WOMEN on this night. But it IS an afterhours club, so they must be lesbians right ? And did i say afterhours CANT be gay?!! Dont think so. I think there is a gay following anywhere you go clubbing in Toronto, and honestly doesnt bother me one bit as long as i dont get hit on.

Arghhhh men can be so annoying. It bothers you when you get hit on by guys but expect us women to be really sweet to you when you hit on us.
I guess I'm going to have to check out Boa for myself. Is it all ages? I heard rumors about 21+ am I right? I'm hoping it is!!

Posted by DigDeep on Jan-07-2004 02:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Mrs.Spice
Arghhhh men can be so annoying. It bothers you when you get hit on by guys but expect us women to be really sweet to you when you hit on us.
I guess I'm going to have to check out Boa for myself. Is it all ages? I heard rumors about 21+ am I right? I'm hoping it is!!

You just want to fight dont you!!!!!
I DONT expect women to be sweet to me when i hit on you, if youre into me....great, if not......NEXT. No biggie really. I have been hit on by guys, and i just find it to be a really wierd situation. You dont want to be mean, you dont want to look like a homophob.

Back to the original topic......you can check out the Boa website.
It is 21 + with the official grand opening happening this Saturday.

www.boa-redux.com

Posted by infinity HiGH on Jan-07-2004 02:58:

Posted by charmscars on Jan-07-2004 04:17:

IMO the most forward clubs are not gay or straight but a place where everyone can convene and feel comfortable.

Lotus was/is not a good club. It was very poorly run (nick warren for example where they had no AC, not having the 3rd floor open in time for digweed) not to mention the clienetele had much to be desired (in my opion anyway). the sound system wasn't much to write home about either.

if someone put a club together w/ great guest DJ's, great residents, and an amazing sound system like stereo's *swoon* ppl would come. You only get back what you put in. It also has to do w/ what ppl want- musically.

Posted by crazedcanuck on Jan-07-2004 04:20:

Everywhere has been dead this Saturday.. it's the weekend after New Years...

Posted by charmscars on Jan-07-2004 04:29:

quote:
Originally posted by crazedcanuck
Everywhere has been dead this Saturday.. it's the weekend after New Years...

good point!

the last place i wanted to be this past weekend was a club..

Posted by infinity HiGH on Jan-07-2004 04:32:

quote:
Originally posted by charmscars
if someone put a club together w/ great guest DJ's, great residents, and an amazing sound system like stereo's *swoon* ppl would come. You only get back what you put in. It also has to do w/ what ppl want- musically.

well Boa seems to be just that from the reviews thus far

Posted by charmscars on Jan-07-2004 04:37:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
well Boa seems to be just that from the reviews thus far

agreed. it appears that it is filling a void that has existed since industry closed.

Posted by DigDeep on Jan-07-2004 04:43:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
well Boa seems to be just that from the reviews thus far

It absolutely is.
I think we should get a big group of TA's to hit up Boa for Satoshi Tomiie.

Posted by Endlesswave on Jan-07-2004 04:49:

I'm already going. Satoshiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii will rock it.

Posted by SKELETOR on Jan-07-2004 05:05:

Posted by Tordan on Jan-07-2004 07:00:

quote:
Originally posted by TECHno addict
It absolutely is.
I think we should get a big group of TA's to hit up Boa for Satoshi Tomiie.

Damn right water spilla!! I just want to see the look on the Boa n00bs faces as they walk in and go through the wooooooos and ahhhhhhhhhhs as we did at Sander K.

Posted by infinity HiGH on Jan-07-2004 07:09:

quote:
Originally posted by TECHno addict
It absolutely is.
I think we should get a big group of TA's to hit up Boa for Satoshi Tomiie.

yea, I'm definately up for that

....if I was 21, that is...

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