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Hi guys, i want help, . . . . again

Atm i am saving for a cd deck, n i have a few in mind, just wanting some advice, experience etc please!

Dont even mention CDJ-1000's cause i am not spending that much on one for Home use and stuff, its just out of my league.

But then i want full effects, looping, scratching! Hence not stuff like CDJ-100's.

Basically I was looking at American Audio Pro-Scratch 2
(http://www.americandj.com/product.a...&cat=CD_Players)

or the Numarks. Any help please??

hey matt,

i have no exp with any other cd decks other than pioneers.

try look at the CDJ-800's or are they to pricey? but ive been using CDJ-100's at home do the job perfectly, some ppl complain about them saying they are hard o use but thats BS... if u learn on the 100's then u will be able to use any cdj out there.

thats my 2 cents, doesnt really help hehe sorry

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Originally posted by waXology hey matt, i have no exp with any other cd decks other than pioneers. try look at the CDJ-800's or are they to pricey? but ive been using CDJ-100's at home do the job perfectly, some ppl complain about them saying they are hard o use but thats BS... if u learn on the 100's then u will be able to use any cdj out there. thats my 2 cents, doesnt really help hehe sorry

thanks cam, i would get the cdj-100's if it was just for mixing, but i really want all effects and stuff as well, simply because playing at parties and stuff, if you use that kinda stuff you just win, plus they are great fun. haha thanks man

I've used the CDJ-800 for a bit..

They're pretty good. Not as many features as the 1000s, but I don't think anyone uses the extra features.

If u can afford them then that's what I would get.

Should be able to get a good second hand pair for $800 each.

your profile says ur in sydney, so head over to lightsounds. They had a pack with 2 cdj800s and the top of the line pioneer mixer (dont ask me the model number, ive gone blank) for $3800. Not a bad saving.

I spent a touch over a grand on my first setup, it consists of a pair of American Audio (/American DJ) PRO-DJ2's and a Behringer DJX400 (rip off of the similarly named pioneer model). They basically have more features than the pioneer cdj100's but for a lot less. I got the decks ex-demo and the mixer brand new, but at a discount. The longevity of the american audio/dj stuff is probably nowhere near that of the pioneer, but that said ur not paying anywhere near the price.

If you like the Pro Scratch 2s, also look at the PSX's and have a little poke around and you might find some new Pro scratch 1s. The good thing too, lightsounds hires out the pro scratches, so you can often strike a deal with them so that if you hire a set mid week for a night or 2, they might be able to give you a pretty good discount when it comes to purchasing.

Whatever you do get, just try to use them for a few hours first.

Something to consider too, a lot of clubs use the pioneer cdj's, so its worth familiarising yourself with them at least.

Finding pioneer cdj800's second hand may be difficult though.

I've got a couple of 100's and they've got 3 effects: "jet", "zip" and "wah". Pretty basic but useful nonetheless.

Well being an avid user of the 100's myself, i don's see anthing wrong with them get the100's...

But that's just my biased opinion

what effects are you looking for? some of the new cd decks have dozens of wierd and wonderful effects, but will you really use them? might be better getting seperate fx kit.
if you really want to scratch, you're going to have to look in the high end of the market. scratch emulation like on my cmx3000 works fine for the occasional messing around, but is nowhere near enough if you want to scratch seriously. loops are great to have once you figure how/when to use them.
i'd look for the cdj800, quite a bit lessthan the 1000, or the dns-3000. not cheap, but from the list of requirements you gave cheap decks won't cut it.

get 100s and an effects pad?

like a kaos pad or something.

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Originally posted by tubby what effects are you looking for? some of the new cd decks have dozens of wierd and wonderful effects, but will you really use them? might be better getting seperate fx kit. if you really want to scratch, you're going to have to look in the high end of the market. scratch emulation like on my cmx3000 works fine for the occasional messing around, but is nowhere near enough if you want to scratch seriously. loops are great to have once you figure how/when to use them. i'd look for the cdj800, quite a bit lessthan the 1000, or the dns-3000. not cheap, but from the list of requirements you gave cheap decks won't cut it.

I myself have Pioneer CMX 3000 as well. I recommend them as they have similar functionality to teh CDJ 800s but gots a way lot less 9cause the decks are joined not seperate, therefore the circuits and components are shared, essentially halving the cost). Plus its pioneer and i wouldnt get anything but Pioneer, even for beginners. Dont waste your mOney on teh CDJ100s though. theyre way overpriced for their usefulness and I would avoid the AA's because I've heard only bad things about them, but thats just me, I am only a bedroom DJ.

CDJ-800 over here

As it's always said when buying gear, save up longer and get the stuff the clubs use as it's the standard. Also the pioneer quality/rep in the industry is better then the AA.

--djway

i would get the CDJ-800

but my money has other priorities at the moment and unless i win lotto i dont think i will be getting a CDJ for a long time

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Originally posted by muli i would get the CDJ-800 but my money has other priorities at the moment and unless i win lotto i dont think i will be getting a CDJ for a long time

Always nice to dream tho I maybe able to get someone a CDJ-800 in a few weeks for $6-700 AUD, in box etc if any1 here is interested...only 1, fully legit....I'm snagging the other 1 out of the pair, hence there's 1 left over

Mr Ashy; interested?

--djway

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Originally posted by djway Always nice to dream tho I maybe able to get someone a CDJ-800 in a few weeks for $6-700 AUD, in box etc if any1 here is interested...only 1, fully legit....I'm snagging the other 1 out of the pair, hence there's 1 left over Mr Ashy; interested? --djway

koonT! dont tempt me!

now back to those powerball numbers COME COME ON GIMMIE A FEW HUNDRED

Matt,

I am selling my CDJ's currently. They are due to be listed in 3D world classifieds this week. I am selling:

2 American DJ Pro 3 single CD players, 1 American DJ QD3 mixer, fully road cased. They cost $1450 new. I'm selling it for $1150 perfect condition.

Personally I have used all the following CD players:

Pioneer CDJ 1000
Pioneer CDJ 800
Pioneer CDJ 500
Pioneer CDJ 100
Pioneer CMX 3000
Dennon D4000
Dennon 1800
Dennon 2600
Dennon 2100
American DJ Pro 3
American DJ Pro Scratch 2
^^^
Honestly everyone who knows me knows that my favourtie CDJ's are the American DJ Pro series (Cameron, Liquid M e.t.c.).


The Pro 3's are awesome CDJ's I have played out on them many many times and I highly recommend them. Even if you don't buy mine they are still a great CD player. By the way they are the bigger brother (feature wise) of the American DJ Pro CD player that lightsounds are selling.


Also under NO circumstance by Numarks I have had numerous pieces of Numark gear go up in smoke on me (literally).

I have been a long running member of www.clubdjzone.com and www.djzone.com do a search through the equipment boards on these sites for user feedback on the equipment.

Finally if you'd like to have a chat about specific CD players i.e. what features some have that others don't. What can be a pain to use and what can be easy to use pm me and we can have a chat?

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Originally posted by Joshva Honestly everyone who knows me knows that my favourtie CDJ's are the American DJ Pro series (Cameron, Liquid M e.t.c.).

How do they stack up in touch/feel vs the Pioneer 100/500/800/1000's?

If the feel is totally different you're going to be rooted playing on other CDJ's [I haven't seen a club in sydney that has a periment CDJ that's NOT a Pioneer] aren't you? And you can't exactly take your own dex 2 every club you play at....

--djway_interested

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Originally posted by djway How do they stack up in touch/feel vs the Pioneer 100/500/800/1000's? --djway_interested

Ive tried a few CDJ's and obviously I love my own Pioneer CDJ1000 (although I really want 2 of them but can't afford to).
If I didn't have this I would go for a CDJ800
IMO I didn't like the AA's or a few others I tried.

I think it's a good idea to go with the industry standard if you are planning to get into club DJing. If not then it is really up to what you like.

As chookie said, the CDJ-1000Mk1 we have is one nice beast

Basically, the ones I'd check out if you're headed toward the mid-to-high range decks are

Pioneer CDJ-1000
Pioneer CDJ-800
Denon 5000
Denon 3000

If you're after something that's portable, Pioneer CMX-3000.

With effects, really, it's so much nicer to have them in the mixer, or even better a seperate unit.

We actually have at the moment:

1xPioneer CDJ-1000Mk1
2xTechnics 1210Mk3d
1xPioneer DJM-600
1xPioneer EFX-500

As a setup, it's really, really nice to play on, and it's pretty much exactly what you'd expect in the majority of clubs these days.

Go to lightsounds, muck with all of them or even come around here some time to muck with with the above

Definately under NO CIRCUMSTANCES buy before you've at least tried all the above to see what /you/ prefer.

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Originally posted by bragi As chookie said, the CDJ-1000Mk1 we have is one nice beast Basically, the ones I'd check out if you're headed toward the mid-to-high range decks are Pioneer CDJ-1000 Pioneer CDJ-800 Denon 5000 Denon 3000 If you're after something that's portable, Pioneer CMX-3000. With effects, really, it's so much nicer to have them in the mixer, or even better a seperate unit. We actually have at the moment: 1xPioneer CDJ-1000Mk1 2xTechnics 1210Mk3d 1xPioneer DJM-600 1xPioneer EFX-500 As a setup, it's really, really nice to play on, and it's pretty much exactly what you'd expect in the majority of clubs these days. Go to lightsounds, muck with all of them or even come around here some time to muck with with the above Definately under NO CIRCUMSTANCES buy before you've at least tried all the above to see what /you/ prefer.

Nice setup man I'll be @ that setup very soon (- the EFX 500; just gave it back....borrowed one for about 3-4 months)

REALLY good advice! Defo try before you buy Take a cd and record along and have a lil play in the shop...(or maybe 2cd's....basically mix in the shop and get the feel of it).

Not trying to take anything away from Joshva's setup, I just prefer, as do many people to use the industry standard, so there's no learning curve when you're in a club.

--djway

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Originally posted by djway How do they stack up in touch/feel vs the Pioneer 100/500/800/1000's? If the feel is totally different you're going to be rooted playing on other CDJ's [I haven't seen a club in sydney that has a periment CDJ that's NOT a Pioneer] aren't you? And you can't exactly take your own dex 2 every club you play at.... --djway_interested

Hi

They are extremely similar to the pioneers in button placement and functionality even the colour/backlight of the buttons. The jog dial is smaller which means you have to turn it a bit more than you would with the pioneers. I prefer this though as if i want more acurate i will turn slow or if i want a big adjustment turn faster. Whereas on the pioneers a small adjustment you nudge the wheel and for a big adjustment turn (similar to on a Turntable). What the AMDJ CDJs do have that is better than the pioneers is the cueing and setting of cue points. On the pioneers you normally have to press the cue button to save to the cue point. On the AMDJ's you don't your previous scannings are automatically saved to the cue point. It means you don't have to find a point then think ok i must remember to save this to cue now. If you want to set different cue points on the AMDJ you can use one of the 6 jump points (not 3 on the pioneers). Other things in favour of the AMDJs are they are much much smaller and more portable than the Pioneer CDJ1000 or CDJ 800 or Dennon S5000/S3000. By the way i also own a Pioneer CMX 3000 in case your wondering.

And yes at Icebox we have bought my AMDJ CD players to replace there Pioneer CDJ 100s

All in all my recomendation is as follows:

1) If you want something portable, lightweight, fairly cheap that is easy to use and has plenty of features go the AMDJ Single CD players

2) If you want a really robust club install CD player or a scratching CD player go either Pioneer CDJ 1000/Pioneer CDJ 800

3) If you are pressed for room (like i am) go for the Pioneer CMX 3000


By the way the reason i haven't suggested using Dennons are because Dennons suffer from the problems dj Way has mentioned. Dennons work quite differently to the Pioneers and AMDJ cd players.

Hope this makes sense

Josh

I just got a pair of 1000mk2's but i spent a year and a bit learning on cdj100's and found them excellent.

Easy to use and a good stepping stone to 1000's. They do everything you would need of a basic cdj and are well made and never had a problem with them. They play cdr's and i think are the best beginner cdj. Also it seems most clubs now have 1000's and if you play on a 100 it's not that diffrent in how ot works basically. (At least i haven't had too many problems learning 1000's)

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Originally posted by Joshva And yes at Icebox we have bought my AMDJ CD players to replace there Pioneer CDJ 100s

From memory when i played at the icebox i thought they had two of these babies.



PIONEER DMP555 DIGITAL TURNTABLE

Now this looks to be pretty much a CDJ-1000 put not so big, i would be considering one of these if you didnt have space.

THey are priced around $1400/1500 which is very similar to the ADJ that josh likes.

THey are hard to find, but i think Virgin megastore has them last time i checked.

OOOOO on further reading this CD player is mad!

It plays off SD cards! how good is that, just carry around a memory stick

ANyways i would ad this into consideration, wicked stuff.

dmp555 is very expensive for the features you get. unless you really really need multimdeia playback, it's not worth it. And it scratches like the cmx, not the cdj's.

ok just got back from Virgin megastore.

its reduced from $2099 - $1099!!! fark if i had the money i would get one for sure!

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