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Posted by VaNFeCto on Jan-09-2004 14:26:

Who has more top quality producers trance or progressive.

I am not asking this question as into regard of which is better, but in the regard of who has the most good producers between the two. I say this because it seems to me like progressive djs have more variety and more tracks in which people haven't heard to choose from. In my opinion you dont see the repetitve tracklists u see in the uplifting world. Im just wondering which one of the genres has more producers who produce good tracks to choose from. Once again not saying one genre is better than the other, just wondering which one has the most producers to choose from. It jus seems like uplifting has a more limited base in which to get its music from. I hope I worded this thread correctly to where you guys understand what Im saying.


Posted by Andrew K on Jan-09-2004 14:34:

I guess progressive... cause every track is diffent...
many trance tracks has almost the same melody etc... also, there are more underground producers in progressive than in trance scene I think


Posted by TwoPlow on Jan-09-2004 14:43:

I'd say Progressive has a lot more people with a lot more skill than trance.


Posted by m0sh on Jan-09-2004 14:48:

I hope there won't be stupid flame wars here because of this thread...


as a producer for me it's much easier to crate a trance track that has a good melody then to make a good solid prog tune.

Infect, most of the producers who know notes nad playing the piano can do a melody in no time and trance melodies are nothing like symphonys...

Anyway today, mostly what I see is producers uses VST and just presets that they have w/o even messing with the sound - they don't pull much affort and it kinda sad but nothing do to... when you get into the producing you understand that it's not what u thought it was...

anyway I don't see any trance producer that comes into the level of james holden's sound work,what he does in tracks is just superb.
I think IMO that prog has more quality and its more creative now,
but one day it could be boring for me also...I still don't love all prog (I dislike howells) but that's my opinion if you agree or not..

Cheers,

/m0sh


Posted by Floorfiller on Jan-09-2004 16:13:

i have to kinda agree with what has been said before...a lot of prog bores me, but when its done right...its great.

i think the reason that perhaps we are kinda recognizing prog for difficulty in production is because one...a lot of trance tunes are very similar, but also prog tracks when down right seem to be pretty complex in form...

i still like trance a lot, just i like the really great tracks out there instead of every cookie cutter track that comes out...


Posted by m0sh on Jan-09-2004 16:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
i still like trance a lot, just i like the really great tracks out there instead of every cookie cutter track that comes out...



same here...and there's not much sadly ;/


Posted by KID-M on Jan-09-2004 16:55:

When I shop for vinyl, I must sort through A LOT more shit trance records than I do prog.

It seems harder to find amazing, fairly unique trance tracks and there is a lot of cheese (though most of 2003 had a lot of great trance tracks being produced). The problem w/prog is there is just so much low-energy stuff in the genre � too dark & deep. I dig both genres�though great trance edges out great prog for me due to the intensity.


Posted by tc-fan on Jan-09-2004 17:37:

dude trance still beats proggressive....i dont care if it has the same melody like someone said....i got to space alot and roland g plays alot of proggressive..& it bores the fuck out of me...like someone said...progressive is good when its done right.


Posted by VaNFeCto on Jan-09-2004 19:15:

quote:
Originally posted by tc-fan
dude trance still beats proggressive....


This is exactly what I didnt want to get into on this thread, my point is I do think there are a lot of "cookie cutter" trance tracks and trance djs have a harder time putting together a unique set because there is to little quality to go around I believe. Where as in progressive I think they have it a little easier.


Posted by SMC on Jan-09-2004 20:00:

There are much more talents in the progressive scene than in the melodic/mainstream scene. The progressive scene is where you find progression, of course, and innovation. It is probably the most artistic music style, imo. It is the sound of human evolution.


Posted by Floorfiller on Jan-09-2004 20:03:

quote:
progressive is good when its done right.


see thats exactly what i'm trying to say...i don't like all that minimal stuff, but when they do a good job...prog can be wonderful...


Posted by nadezhda on Jan-09-2004 22:42:

prog for sure.

and yes, i'm biased.


Posted by Pareez on Jan-09-2004 23:06:

Can't agree with you more

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
i have to kinda agree with what has been said before...a lot of prog bores me, but when its done right...its great.

i think the reason that perhaps we are kinda recognizing prog for difficulty in production is because one...a lot of trance tunes are very similar, but also prog tracks when down right seem to be pretty complex in form...

i still like trance a lot, just i like the really great tracks out there instead of every cookie cutter track that comes out...


I think exactly the same way, well done


Posted by Tweak on Jan-10-2004 22:30:

Congratulations (most) people for having a sensible discussion, who would have thought

Being a huge prog fan - trance, house n breaks as well, i DO think there's more creativity, because there's room for more creativity, weirdness is readily accepted, even encouraged. However, sometimes it falls flat, there is crappy prog, same as there's crappy trance. Sometimes crap prog still gets hyped and becomes big, just because it's different....hmm well that makes sense to me anyway.


Posted by fcuk � on Jan-11-2004 02:33:

Yes, when prog is done right it sounds great. When trance is done right it sounds good. There is a difference i like both take a good trance tune compared to a good prog tune and you'll find all the small things that the trance tune lacks in.



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