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Posted by nrjizer on Jan-10-2004 03:04:

Atlanta TA's: give me some feedback on my idea

For all you TA's in the ATL area, or anyone who wouldn't mind coming down, tell me what you think of this.

As you may know, just north of Atlanta is Lake Lanier. Its man made, so theres a lot of little islands all over the lake which just beg for a beach party. So my friend and I were tossing ideas around and we thought it would be bad ass to throw one this summer.

Its extremely tentative, and I'm not even sure of the legalities of it. But as long as there isn't a shitload of alcohol and no drugs, it could probably be done. I live on the lake its very popular to do overnight island parties, where lines of houseboats (sometimes 8-10 or more) all beach themselves on an island. I've never seen any as rowdy as your average rave (though I have seen such on a houseboat crusing around), but as far as I'm aware loud music and all night partying aren't illegial in the middle of the lake.

So we are wondering how many of you TA's around here would support the idea, or would come out if we did do it. If any of you have access to houseboats or know anyone who does and might be intrested, let me know. The current idea is to have everyone meet in one spot, then board a boat to the island of choice, party all night, and them camp out on said boats overnight, then leave in the morning (or afternoon, if anyone is up for a day on the lake). If we couldn't get large boats, im sure we could at least find people with smaller ones to ferry people there and back. I'm also thinking the 4th of July would be the best time to do it, since there is a spectacular fireworks show on the lake for the 4th, which would go along perfect with the party.

Remember this still a really tentative idea... but if your at all interested, or might be willing to help, or DJ, or whatever, please post back and let us know


Posted by nchs09 on Jan-10-2004 04:50:

id love to.. sounds like a great idea
but from may 6th, ill be in El Salvador partying my ass off for 3 monhts


Posted by ex-dj on Jan-10-2004 04:55:

OMFG! If you do this, I'm there. Sounds like a real tight idea.

I could bring my boat up, its only a fish & ski though so it only holds 4 or 5 ppl, but it also gets around much faster than a house boat And of course I would love to spin.


Posted by nrjizer on Jan-10-2004 05:14:

quote:
Originally posted by nchs09
id love to.. sounds like a great idea
but from may 6th, ill be in El Salvador partying my ass off for 3 monhts


Well the current best bet is July 4th, since a lot of people will be partying and DNR, though out 3x in force, would probably be less likely to care. This also means we can enjoy the fireworks show. One problem this does bring up though is that random assholes might notice our party and show up, either getting the thing too large and attracting the cops, or bringing a lot of drugs/beer, causing the same. One way to solve this tho is to pick one of the islands with a long strip of beach, and rocks around the rest of it, then beach any boats parallel to the shore to keep idiots away. I'm thinking we should cap it off at like 75-100 people. Everyone could meet at a marina, then board boats and head off for the destined island.

The biggest problem would potentially being busted. I really dont know how tolerant DNR would be to something like this. Unlike raves in abandoned warehouses or in a field in the middle of nowhere, it would be difficult to hide it. As far as I know, though, theres no laws against gathering and partying on islands, chains of beached boats pretty much a daily occurance on this lake during the summer (though honestly I've never heard of someone throwing a rave, but there have been some rowdy parties before). Of course, thats part of raves, they're generally not legal and can get busted.

Anyways, its still tentative. If your at all interested, let me know.

Btw we also need potential volunteers for things like speakers, decks, generators, and especially boats. Oh, and DJ's too


Posted by MunkyAngel on Jan-10-2004 14:12:

i know that you live on the lake and everything but july 4th weekend doesn't sound that great just because of the massive amounts of rednecks that are on the lake that weekend...it's a great idea and i have always wanted to do something like that but not on that date =(. I know someone tried to do this a few years back but it flew through the cracks but that doesn't mean us ta's couldn't get something together =)


Posted by TheKidsWantTechno on Jan-10-2004 16:04:

dangit, i'm gonna be in europe all summer, so i'm gonna miss cool stuff like this... but i guess that also means i may be chilling on the mediterranean somewhere instead on the 4th

-gavin


Posted by MunkyAngel on Jan-10-2004 19:18:

yah your going to miss my birthday and of course we won't be able to celebrate your birthday on the day =(


Posted by nrjizer on Jan-10-2004 20:07:

Well we can do other days, no problem. The idea for the 4th was that since so many other people would be out, the cops would be less likely to care about our little party, and would probably be occupied chasing drunks out on the lake. And, of course, the fireworks.

We're still very open and flexible about planning, and its you guys who would make this happen, so tell me when you think would be best. As far as rednecks go, pretty much any weekend during the summer your going to see them out in force anyways .


Posted by scamsel on Jan-11-2004 05:48:

sounds bad ass to me. i would be done for that on any date so long as the temp does not go below 65 degrees!


Posted by nrjizer on Jan-11-2004 09:42:

You must not have been in Atlanta long


Posted by Dj SHO on Jan-12-2004 22:43:

Sounds good to me.

I'd be happy to spin at the party and help out with other things. I'm sure if the party does go down, we won't have a problem finding Djs. There are always more Djs than needed.

I could donate some sound as well. Nothing special, but I think it would be enough to satisfy a crowd of 100 or less.

Put me on the list and let me know if it gets past the tentative stage. If it's done right, this party would probably be one of the better ones of the year. And I think we could keep it legal enough so it wouldn't get shut down earlier. We just have to be smart about everything and lay down some basic rules for the party. If you break the rules, you get shipped back to the main land....


Posted by nrjizer on Apr-21-2004 04:25:

Well its late April, so if this thing is gonna go down we probably need to start planning it. So I'm bumping this thread.

Right now, the real problem is getting busted. An island party like that is pretty much impossible to hide, since DNR is always out in force during the summer. My current idea anyways is to get a long stretch of beach, and some helpful folks with long, tall houseboats. Park them parallel to the shore, blocking view of the party from the outside, also blocking some sound (while I'm not too concerned about sound... it will carry far, but would rarely be heard over a boat engine). So, things would have to be kept pretty low profile. Keep lighting down to bonfires and such. I'll also look into the laws on island use/parties.

Another issue to think about: Camping on the beaches/islands is illegial and would get things broken up instantly. But hopefully, anyone who comes would be tough enough to stick it out all night long - though this kind of ruins the possibility of having a 2-3 day little island vacation out there (how fucking cool would that be though? non stop raving on an island on the lake for 36 hours gotta figure out how to make it happen).

Also, we need equipment. Anyone who can bring decks/mixer, speakers, wires, BOATS, or whatever, post back.

So, anyone else who would be down for this and can help plan just reply here.


Posted by Mr. Pink on Apr-21-2004 05:27:

Rasta

PERFECT IDEA!
this has been done in puerto rico many a times! and ive gone to many parties like this....some of the best times EVAR!

i say...DO IT....DO IT!!!!!

and im there.

make it after mid june so i can make it.
ill be in PR tilll mid june....so yeah!


ME +2 lol

im sooooooooooooooo there.


Posted by nrjizer on Apr-21-2004 07:15:

Yeah, I'm thinking June 25/26 as a tentative possibility, or maybe mid July otherwise.

I've been reading up a bit on the laws - even fires of any kind are prohibitied now, after several islands were apparantly burned completely. This must have been recently changed, or they simply didn't/don't bother to enforce it, or we just got lucky.

They also crack down hard on beach camping (though specifically permit sleeping on beached boats), but I don't see this as being much of a problem, if we just arrive in the evening and leave in the morning. Still, it kind of eliminates the possibility of a 2-3 day long non stop party (or my plan to line the beach with Tiki torches ).

I'll talk to some people I know who live in houseboats/visit the lake frequently, they probably know the name of the game better than anyone. If all else fails we could just get a group of us out there during the day time, a grill, some decks and speakers, and have a beach day.


Posted by nrjizer on Apr-21-2004 07:17:

Btw, you can read up on lake/island laws and such here (section 28, island management)


Posted by TheKidsWantTechno on Apr-21-2004 14:36:

god, i wish i could come to something like this!!! maybe next summer... or even another one in early fall if this one goes well?


Posted by Mr. Pink on Apr-21-2004 15:22:

Rasta

So yeah this is a perfect idea....seriously.
we should definitely do this.

any details on if this is actually possible?


Posted by squirrelly on Apr-21-2004 16:24:

FLTA ROAD TRIP!!!!!!!!!!


Posted by Mr. Pink on Apr-21-2004 17:02:

quote:
Originally posted by anuneventrade
FLTA ROAD TRIP!!!!!!!!!!


i agree
lol


Posted by Vero on Apr-21-2004 17:40:

i might be able to bring my boat up. Ill definitly bring my records and im sure if the music is loud enough, its definitly gonna scare all the rednecks away.


Posted by phonk64 on Apr-23-2004 05:18:

that is definitely one of the best ideas i've heard in a while. lake lanier rules, drinking rules, trance rules, and ATL TA's rule so logically something that combines all of that should rule!

If details come at a later date definitely count me in.

-Dan


Posted by Mr. Pink on Apr-23-2004 05:35:

Rasta

I know a gal who wakeboards all the time in lake lanier and has had some shindigs on those exact islands..

she told me that whoever is in charge of them doesn't care whats up unless we cut down trees or fuck with the environment...

look into it more, but i really think this is possible.

let's make it happen, guys!



Posted by nrjizer on Apr-23-2004 05:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Pink
I know a gal who wakeboards all the time in lake lanier and has had some shindigs on those exact islands..

she told me that whoever is in charge of them doesn't care whats up unless we cut down trees or fuck with the environment...

look into it more, but i really think this is possible.

let's make it happen, guys!




Really. What I've been reading (as far as laws go) as that there has been a general problem with fires and rowdiness on the islands (thats what I read in the link I posted a few replies up). Though I would expect that from the officials anyways . Seriously though, I HAVE had some pretty decent shindigs out there, with plenty of boats, bonfires and fireworks and haven't been bothered, but the last time that happened was July 4th of 2002, since our houseboat has been beached since last year for repair.

So, I'd like to talk to her if it's not too terribly inconvienent (if she just has AIM or email or something). If she doesn't, can you just ask her for me:

a) what are the odds of pulling off an overnight party (without being busted) complete with loud music, tiki torches/bonfires and such, alcohol, and, say 50-125 people, and

b) what are the odds of doing it for, say, 2-3 days, in a nonstop party?

Also ask her if she can/knows anyone who can help us with the boat need. Thats the biggest necessity right now, and currently I stand at 1 small ski boat, and thats if I can convince my folks to let me steal it for the weekend


Posted by nrjizer on Apr-23-2004 06:03:

Btw I'm changing the tentative date to June 18/19/20, since the next weekend is a skate comp which I cant miss and the weekend after that is July 4th, for which I'm not getting the most positive of feedback (tho the fireworks would rock). If we can pull it off early in the summer we could do another later on.

Btw is anyone going to gripe if I'm tilting the music policy towards tribal/house/prog trance (the good kind, like sander k/pete tong @ ultra EM kind) to go in with the whole outdoors beach theme? Some good injections of straight trance or other variety are fine with me, but nothing beats tribal/house for the outdoors, especially beaches . You'll at least have to put up with a rocking, funky set from me, since it is my own party after all


Posted by Mr. Pink on Apr-23-2004 06:27:

Rasta

quote:
Originally posted by nrjizer
So, I'd like to talk to her if it's not too terribly inconvienent (if she just has AIM or email or something). If she doesn't, can you just ask her for me:

a) what are the odds of pulling off an overnight party (without being busted) complete with loud music, tiki torches/bonfires and such, alcohol, and, say 50-125 people, and

b) what are the odds of doing it for, say, 2-3 days, in a nonstop party?


ok first off:
http://lanier.sam.usace.army.mil/recreation.htm
With over 690 miles of shoreline and over 100 small islands Lake Lanier is the perfect place to pursue your recreational adventure. Whether it is fishing, camping, boating, picnicking, swimming or a variety of other recreation activities, Lake Lanier has it all.



secondly....we dont know if the islands are considered to be a part of the camping situation (http://lanier.sam.usace.army.mil/camping.htm) but it says:

ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES are prohibited in all parks.
NOISE: Quiet hours are from 10:00 p.m. until 6:00 a.m. Unreasonable or excessive noise at any time is prohibited.


regardless, though, my friend says they've made a lot of noise and whatnot and did not get in trouble....
look at this, though: http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/...6cfr327_01.html


In reference to your questions:
she said:

A) she said that that was exactly what the 4th of july was and no one complained. If you go to the middle where the dam is and not near any houses where the shoreline is, then no one would complain. But you'd have to find place that is nestled and far away from any sort of housing complex. I guess the key here is .......only we would be around that area. Desolated and just us...she says you'd have to search the islands, and find which creeks are better to work with.

B) That goes along with the first one, as long as no one knows about it. BUt having so many people at a non-stop party might be risKAY lol. Regardless look up the rules and regulations.


As far as the boat goes...her dad sold her boat


i hope this helped out man.

anything else, ill be glad to ask.

peAce


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