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Posted by DjCoz on Jan-11-2004 06:10:

Inside out vinyl

I recently purchased a record by Mars... one side plays from the INSIDE OUT! The other side plays regular. Has anyone else ever found a record like this? Is this a factory error or was the producer doing this on purpose to be original?

Only one of my turntables can play this from inside out without the needle skipping. Any advice on spinning this cuz the track is awesome? I think the chance of it skipping from any small vibrations increases cuz the tone arm naturally wants to go towards the middle of the record.

Posted by SgtFoo on Jan-11-2004 07:35:

got one...

Yea... I thought I found the only record like that too, but apparently now not....

I got this one..
Kenji Ogura ft. Melanie Di Tria - Kreissage 2 (tracid mix, robert natus hard mix) [discomania]

and it plays both sides A and B from the inside to out. It was really weird. I previewed it at the store and the needle stayed on the outside for like 4 minutes straight, and I thought.... wtf???!!!

then I noticed the 2cm gap fro mthe outside to the grooves.

I moves the needle back to the inside and let it go.... voila...it worked.
The track is awesome too.... I guess this might be a new trend

Posted by Psygnosis on Jan-11-2004 09:56:

??? can someone explain this to me, pics?

I'm confused silly here

Posted by rafale on Jan-11-2004 10:13:

Yeah this is something new to me
Doesn't the needle have a tendency to be pulled to the centre..called skating, isn't it.

Posted by Luke Terry on Jan-11-2004 11:46:

best advise if u want to spin it is rip it to wave and burn it to cd then at least it won't skip

i dont like the idea of novelty vinyl like this if im gonna mix with it and it be a bitch to use, pictar disco all the way

Posted by SgtFoo on Jan-11-2004 19:51:

Well... when I previewed the record at the record store... the weight was to heavy on the needle, so it sank to the first groove from the outside.

When I played it at home on my 1210s, I just took off a notch of anti-skate...and it plays fine
I'll see about getting a picture up if you guys are really eagerly confused.

Posted by raaven on Jan-11-2004 21:47:

i have a techno record off of contrust rhythm that does that from a few years back. fuct with my head the first time i played it. LOL

Posted by Briden on Jan-11-2004 22:04:

what a dumb idea. would this not wear out your needle really bad?

Posted by Dj Thy on Jan-11-2004 22:54:

There is nothing wrong with your record, it's made on purpose. It just has been pressed with a reverse groove. There are quite some records like that.

What is even more rare though, are records that have parallel grooves (if you can call it like that with spirals). If you put the needle into one groove, you get song 1, if you put it in the other, you get a different song.

But yes it's done on purpose.

Posted by Briden on Jan-12-2004 00:01:

i've got a scratch battle record that has a bunch of "locked grooves" like that with samples that just keep looping and looping.

but backwards is just retarded.

Posted by DjCoz on Jan-12-2004 00:36:

I don't mind mixing with it as long as it doesn't mess up my needle, however I kind of doubt that if they do this on purpose.

Posted by b i n k u n on Jan-12-2004 03:51:

Kai Tracid - Conscious [Tracid Traxx] that also does it.

seems like they do this on purpose since the other kenji trak someone mentioned also does it.

u can still spin w/ it, altho it is kind of confusing and just plain odd.

Posted by `pr0digy on Jan-12-2004 03:59:

I'd just back off the antiskate when you play it, I believe that would be the correct thing to do, right ?

Posted by DjCoz on Jan-12-2004 04:11:

Yeah, I put my antiskate to 0 for this purpose.

Posted by Briden on Jan-12-2004 04:33:

well, I and most other DJs i know just leave antiskate at 0 all the time anyway. really, what you'd want in this case is anti-anti skate, and counterbalance the force in the opposite direction

Posted by Vero on Jan-12-2004 05:08:

i just picked up my first "clear" record the other day and allmost shit a brick when i found out it was black light reactive. i thought that was weird enough, but inside out vinyl? i dont know about that one, i dont think i could handle that. lol.

Posted by Nemesis44 on Jan-13-2004 01:45:

Yup,

Inside out vinyl is popping up here and there at the moment. Adjusting the antiskate should sort it though if it's a problem.

But I wonder how may of you have come across this?:

I have an old LL Cool J record (Jack the ripper/Going back to Cali) that has side by side grooves. It looks like it's just one song on it but in actual fact you have two grooves that run parallel to each other all the way into the middle. It can be a real bitch to find the right one. Can also produce a realy strange thing if it skips as it may go into a different song all together. The B-Side is a totally different track.

Cheers
Nem

Posted by razzi on Jan-14-2004 17:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Nemesis44
I have an old LL Cool J record (Jack the ripper/Going back to Cali) that has side by side grooves. It looks like it's just one song on it but in actual fact you have two grooves that run parallel to each other all the way into the middle. It can be a real bitch to find the right one. Can also produce a realy strange thing if it skips as it may go into a different song all together. The B-Side is a totally different track.

now THIS is something i have to see. damn thats so awesome, i guess after decades of vinyl, people are getting creative with thier productions hehehe

Posted by Dj Thy on Jan-14-2004 19:08:

Erm I already said that in my first reply
I beat you to the novelty game

Posted by Nemesis44 on Jan-14-2004 22:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Thy
Erm I already said that in my first reply
I beat you to the novelty game

Boooo you suck!

Nem