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Aha ! Tiesto-Traffic - > Thin ?

Hello,

please do not start dissing the track or say you hate it and would like Tiesto to die or give birth to your child or anything.

Now onto my question.

I found out my overal sound of a track I'm working on has that seem feel as Traffic. Not that type of melody etc.. but the reverb type he used there, and actually the rather thin lead.

Let's say he wasn't famous, you think his track would have gotten selected ? Cause it sounds so thin if you compare it to other stuff. I keep reading that a thin song is not a pro song, so ok I totally agree now.

he has a kick, good bass, and a thin lead, so that ain't much is it ? Or do you think it DOESN'T sound thin ? If you are of that opinion, could you explain lme then what you DO consider as thin sounding ?

This would be very helpful really, and please don't flame Traffic/Tiesto, this is not that kind of thread/forum.

It never would of gotten released if it was made by some amateur in these forums. Tiesto could make a 10 minute tune with just monkey sounds and it would sell.

it's definately popularity...

But one thing I've really found that can give a track it's fullness, is that to cover the whole frequency spectrum as much of the time as possible... But in doing that, there is the issue of muddying your track, that's why you try to individually place each instrument in it's own frequency range and try to mix everything together so that nothing interferes with each other

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Originally posted by trancenrg69 It never would of gotten released if it was made by some amateur in these forums. Tiesto could make a 10 minute tune with just monkey sounds and it would sell.

Traffic was never meant to be released either, Tiesto just made it for fun so he could play it in a few sets.

It was the fans' demands that got it released.

the 'fans demand' ? Wtf ? For real ? I was a huge fan of his productions before that track, when he did that he was just another sellout lol, I'm getting over it now though, loved the skin remix

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Originally posted by BelgianGuru the 'fans demand' ? Wtf ? For real ? I was a huge fan of his productions before that track, when he did that he was just another sellout lol, I'm getting over it now though, loved the skin remix

Uh, it's the other way around for me, I think the Skin remix is absolute garbage.

wow really ? What do you hate about it ? Her voice is killer ok, so he didn't make that part. But the twirly tune thingy, I love that

I didn't know that. But why would he have to release it if the fans wanted it, he could just have posted it for free on his website. But I guess an exta few Armani suits is more important to him then making his fans happy. I was a hugeeeeeeeeee Tiesto fan. Back in 95- 96 when I was listening to Sash and Eurodance crap I discovered a few cds that would change my life. The forbidden paradise mixes. I was hooked and Tiesto became an idol to me. Then 3 years later I went to a huge rave in Montreal where he preformed as a second string DJ to Paul Okenfold who I never liked, and everyone was ranting and raving "Oekenfold is so good, he's the best bla bla" and i just stood there and said "I came here too see the birth of a trance god" by the end of the rave you will have forgotten about Oekenfold and that night Tiesto did as I had forseen. He spun a set that not only astonished the crowd, but also left people scratching their heads, as to thinking " what the hell was that?" I want more!!!!" But you all know the path of fame and money, it's a bright path full of brilliant lights that eventually leads to a dark bottomless pit" . All you can do is pray.

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Originally posted by BelgianGuru wow really ? What do you hate about it ? Her voice is killer ok, so he didn't make that part. But the twirly tune thingy, I love that

The vocals suck, the tune is hollow and empty and the synths are amateurish.

I personally really like this track; if you've ever seen the reaction it gets at the club then you'll see why. Yeah, it's a pretty thin sounding as far as the synths go, but it's really well produced (at least the percussions and bass), and as a result it dominates on a big system. As Mr. Mystery said though, this was never meant for release, and you're right, it probably never would have been released if it was some random wank like ourselves that produced it.

lol

What songs do you REALLY like Mystery ? Just curious.. With good leads and all that, maybe it could change my way of thinking 'good leads' etc.. and improve me

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Originally posted by trancenrg69 I didn't know that. But why would he have to release it if the fans wanted it, he could just have posted it for free on his website. But I guess an exta few Armani suits is more important to him then making his fans happy. I was a hugeeeeeeeeee Tiesto fan. Back in 95- 96 when I was listening to Sash and Eurodance crap I discovered a few cds that would change my life. The forbidden paradise mixes. I was hooked and Tiesto became an idol to me. Then 3 years later I went to a huge rave in Montreal where he preformed as a second string DJ to Paul Okenfold who I never liked, and everyone was ranting and raving "Oekenfold is so good, he's the best bla bla" and i just stood there and said "I came here too see the birth of a trance god" by the end of the rave you will have forgotten about Oekenfold and that night Tiesto did as I had forseen. He spun a set that not only astonished the crowd, but also left people scratching their heads, as to thinking " what the hell was that?" I want more!!!!" But you all know the path of fame and money, it's a bright path full of brilliant lights that eventually leads to a dark bottomless pit" . All you can do is pray.

Just look to the past, thats why Ti�sto is Number 1. But i agree that hes not the same anymore but im still a dedicated Ti�sto fan!

Sometimes thin is the way to go. A lot of producers over here try to achieve as fat sounds as possible and once they think they have it they call it a pro-sounding song. In my opinion trance is more than beautiful melodies and fat synths. It is more than anything a genre that produces a seductive, repetitive atmosphere where unpredictability reigns and subtle changes send chills down your spine.

I think Traffic has a nice hollow sound to it, and I bet it would feel very refreshening to dance to it in a club. Not as good as Marco V's mix of PvD's "Connected", but that's irrelevant.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery The vocals suck, the tune is hollow and empty and the synths are amateurish.

Heh, don't agree with you on this one Nik! I love it.

btw, Traffic sounds great in a club imo.

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Originally posted by trancenrg69 But why would he have to release it if the fans wanted it, he could just have posted it for free on his website.

so silly beggars like me can buy the tune on vinyl to mix with

Hello!

Totally offtopic but ->
Am I here only person who thinks that TRAFFIC synth is from early works of PAFFENDORF "Smile" Release: 12.03.98 or ROBBIE TRONCO "NightTrain"??

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hmmz traffic yeah its not very impressive untill you ehar it ina club and you hear the amount of frequencys that are infact there and even then honstly i really enjoy the walden mix more so then the orginal and i agree the synth is kinda blan and honestly most everytime ive heard tiesto spin traffic he spins faithfullness then traffic or vice versa they are not the same track and are infact very differnt he just spins them together and when they are played together in session and he doesnt mess up it sounds mint personally tho i really dont like th vocals to faithfullness i really liked traffic tho its kinda ehhh amatureish i agree but its fun track not a real banger or anyhting but its a nice track to throw in a set and intresting to mix with

Punctuation is fun.

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Originally posted by State of Matter Punctuation is fun.

lol

Traffic does rock in the club. One of my favs. I think the reason faithfullness and traffic sound so good together is because the druma nd bass are very similar sounding. Also faithfullness has a nice and long kick and bass drum before the vocals come on.

In general a lot of uplifting trande has thin sounding synths. They just sound thicker because so much other stuff is going on in the mix. Hardtrance seems to use thick phat sounding synths more, but a lot of it doesn't have a bunch of lush strings/pads.

I agree with the punctuation-lacking dude; the Max Walder mix pisses on the original and is the one I personally play.

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Originally posted by dj_inferno lol Traffic does rock in the club. One of my favs. I think the reason faithfullness and traffic sound so good together is because the druma nd bass are very similar sounding. Also faithfullness has a nice and long kick and bass drum before the vocals come on. In general a lot of uplifting trande has thin sounding synths. They just sound thicker because so much other stuff is going on in the mix. Hardtrance seems to use thick phat sounding synths more, but a lot of it doesn't have a bunch of lush strings/pads.

brisky & dave-prototype1..correct me i am wrong but it's not so thin to me and very uplifting

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Originally posted by Massive84 brisky & dave-prototype1..correct me i am wrong but it's not so thin to me and very uplifting

The main synth has a thin hollow type sound. Not Ayion - Thru The Night (Solid Slide Remix)thin or a lot of highpass filter thin.

I wasn't saying it was an uplifting tune. I was just saying that in ulifting tunes (which tiesto normally produces) don't have those phat leads like Sound Of Overdose - City 2 City (Shokk Remix)or Miss Shiva - Dreams 2002 (Cosmic Gate Remix).

I thought traffic was just a remake of an older techno song anyway?

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Originally posted by DJ Nuclear I thought traffic was just a remake of an older techno song anyway?

it has a sample from an old techno tune aye

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Originally posted by State of Matter Punctuation is fun.

Yes, it is!

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