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Posted by thecYrus on Jan-16-2004 19:18:

background fx sounds/synths

let's talk about all those background synths/fxs...
what do you use too create your fxs? and how do you create them?

i'm looking for fxs like http://www.solarproject.ch/linked/bgfx.mp3 (the background synth)

but i've (almost) no idea how to create such fx..

so long
cYrus


Posted by Sean Walsh on Jan-16-2004 19:35:

Hehe, I've spent a LOT of time trying to get those Outback style synth effects. The closest I've come is with Atmosphere, one of the moog bass presets can get close with a bunch of tweaking. You want to ride the cutoff and resonance knobs like crazy.


Posted by BelgianGuru on Jan-16-2004 20:19:

what effect are we talking about on that track ?


Posted by kooma on Jan-16-2004 23:06:

VOCODER


Posted by mantisnl on Jan-17-2004 13:32:

z3ta can do a very good job aswell, its like dj-sean said: tweaking cutoff and resonance


Posted by hey cheggy on Jan-17-2004 16:18:

To get some really cool, trippy little background type synths, use a digital waveform to modulate an LFO, then link that LFO to something plain stupid like the frequency of the phaser and the cutoff. (Cutoffs are fun)


Posted by Dj Thy on Jan-17-2004 18:15:

Well, dunno if it's really on topic, but don't always think that synths are the end all be all. Anything can sound nice with enough work on it.

Kinda reminds me a movie (school) I had to do the sound on (we had to do the actual on stage recording, the editing, the mixing, and even the sound design). And one scene was on a submarine. I needed kind of a general atmosphere, one that would sound pretty eery.
I could have easily taken a sample cd (like the Hollywood edge or BBC series), but I remember recording the motor of a windscreen wiper on a car. I just mangled it to death (filter, reverberate, modulate, cut, chop, paste, reverse, whatever exists, I might have done it). End that ended on the scene, and nobody ever noticed a windscreen wiper. Kinda like the screech for landing airplane tyres is done a lot with mangled elephant cries...

Ok it's not really music, but it shows that if you want sounds done, with a little experimentation, anything can give a good result.


Posted by BassAngel on Jan-17-2004 21:20:

That reminds me, Mr Thy, what you say is correct. We have at our disposal tools that pros 10-15 years ago would have paid a fortune for. I remember one track I did I made a distinctive snare sound from recording my venetian blinds falling and mangling in soundengine. It's so easy to fall into that trap of spending all our time and energy merely to end up sounding like someone else innit?


Posted by BelgianGuru on Jan-17-2004 21:33:

>Right on dude. Now I don't want you people to judge me, but in this song I made before the current one I'm working on I recorded the toilet flushing, and made a 'wossh' sound with that


Posted by BassAngel on Jan-17-2004 21:38:

I recorded the toilet flushing, and made a 'wossh' sound with that

Dude that is the funniest thing I have heard in a long time!!!!

You gotta let me hear it!!!!


Posted by BelgianGuru on Jan-17-2004 21:43:

I will try to post it when I get back home, I'm going back somewhere the second week of february And hey, I was bored !


Posted by Luke Terry on Jan-17-2004 21:46:

Cool

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Thy
Kinda like the screech for landing airplane tyres is done a lot with mangled elephant cries...


u learn something new every day


Posted by BassAngel on Jan-17-2004 22:53:

Genius mate, genius!


Posted by tranceman78 on Jan-18-2004 03:24:

I've recorded a cigarette lighter before to get a hi-hat sound.


Posted by waXology on Jan-18-2004 09:37:

ive been looking to make this sound also.... any extra tips besides the above? presets? haha


Posted by thecYrus on Jul-18-2004 10:27:

*push*

i tried to recreate it again.. now i know that it works best with the filter envelope. but i don't really know what's the base-waveform for this kind of effect.

i've it so far now: http://www.solarproject.ch/linked/outback_fx.mp3


Posted by Vizay on Jul-18-2004 12:32:

your'e on your way there but first of it sounds a bit weird when youre using a saw waveform (at least it sounds like one)

try a more digital waveform and then mangle it through a few compressors, equalizers, maybe a distortion or two and so on


Posted by thecYrus on Jul-18-2004 12:49:

it's a square and a saw-waveform.. and a bit ringmodulation.

what do you mean with a digital waveform? square is digital, or am i wrong?


Posted by Etherium on Jul-18-2004 15:10:

If you guys are trying to emulate the Outback fx I know pretty much exactly how they do it. Take a patch with plenty of resonance and lp filter with mid cutoff, then grab the distortion knob and crank it. It's all about distortion automation.

The key is that you should play the note then raise the distortion. It causes a "distortion sweep", if you will.


Posted by Dana-O- on Jul-18-2004 16:09:

well here's what iv done so far:
http://beibe.tnnet.fi/~tonza/dana/backgroundfx.mp3
iv made with it synth1 by decreasiing the reso and a increasing the attack abit so it will have a swirly shape added some high overdrive distortion

:P


Posted by DJ Dinz on Jul-18-2004 18:14:

Yeah...
FX background.. what instrument do u guys use??
Sometime i use Strings and i ride the filter cut HIGH n LOW.. tweaking... and also Snare.. i place the Key at the lowest picth and put a DELAY n FILTER effect alot on it so it goes.. ECHOING along some bar...

But most of it i use FX sample from FLstudio(i use FLstudio to produce)... so far my FX synth Background is still SUX!

So maybe what is the best software to create FX or what Instrument is the best for it???


Posted by 8Wonders on Jul-18-2004 20:47:

A rather simple patch to program with the right set of ears and tools. What you're hearing are basically all FM based sounds, something that you can easily achieve with the Novation line of synths. Hope that narrows it down for ya!


Posted by Bruchpilot on Jul-18-2004 23:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Dana-O-
well here's what iv done so far:
http://beibe.tnnet.fi/~tonza/dana/backgroundfx.mp3
iv made with it synth1 by decreasiing the reso and a increasing the attack abit so it will have a swirly shape added some high overdrive distortion

:P


hi, could you send me or upload that preset for synth 1 ? would be very nice


Posted by advocate on Jul-19-2004 15:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Etherium
If you guys are trying to emulate the Outback fx I know pretty much exactly how they do it. Take a patch with plenty of resonance and lp filter with mid cutoff, then grab the distortion knob and crank it. It's all about distortion automation.

The key is that you should play the note then raise the distortion. It causes a "distortion sweep", if you will.


Yeah thats exactly the way to do it. Its distortion.
For a quick and simple solution try BeatBurner and throw your synth loop in there... Hit the randomize button and within a few clicks you will have what you're looking for... I promise.


Posted by thecYrus on Jul-19-2004 15:37:

i'll check this out!

but does someone know if you can't automate the distortion intensity on the virus b with midi cc?


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