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Posted by KilldaDJ on Jan-16-2004 22:23:

King techie help part 2 (processor remix)

amd athlon xp2000+

clock speed of abt 1.7 ghz right? or not as im only getting 1250mhz out of mine...


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jan-16-2004 22:26:

Not really sure... my 2800+ runs at 2073MHz by default.


Posted by KilldaDJ on Jan-16-2004 22:28:

Talking

im gunna give this another go and overclock this bastard in BIOS


Posted by KilldaDJ on Jan-17-2004 02:15:

Unhappy

nope

it didnt like being overclocked

system didnt boot up, when it did, i got a FAT error, some corruption in the MBR and well...caused a format as my hard drive was just being queer, showed up as negative space and well...it wasted a good 2 hours of my life...fucking thing.


Posted by Boomer187 on Jan-17-2004 02:20:

I think my 1900 only runs at 1.4.

last time I checked was a long time ago though, but I am pretty sure that is the number.


Posted by Ninjapimp on Jan-17-2004 02:37:

1800+ is 1533Mhz.
2000 shoulb be 17 and change.


Posted by Boomer187 on Jan-17-2004 02:44:

http://www.pro.ro/distrib/amd.htm

check it, says 2000+ should be at 1.66, and I was wrong on the estimate of mine. eh.


Posted by yujie__ on Jan-17-2004 03:26:

my is happy at 2205 from a 1.47 (1700+)


Posted by Tranc3 on Jan-17-2004 03:39:

My 3000+ XP is 2.147Ghz stock...

Course the clock speed has nothing to do with actual computational speed, at least not anymore.


Posted by DigiNut on Jan-17-2004 03:41:

Re: techie help part 2 (processor remix)

quote:
Originally posted by KilldaDJ
amd athlon xp2000+

clock speed of abt 1.7 ghz right? or not as im only getting 1250mhz out of mine...

Sounds to me like your FSB speed is set too low. Let's say your FSB was set to 200 MHz to get that 1250 MHz, that gives a multiplier of 6.25 and if your FSB was set properly at 266 MHz then you'd have a 1663 MHz processor running speed.

What you probably don't want to do is change the multiplier. However, if the FSB speed is set lower than it should be, you can safely raise that to whatever your motherboard will support (if your motherboard doesn't support high enough FSB speeds, that may be part of the problem as well).

Hope that helps.


Posted by Mystre on Jan-17-2004 06:03:

u sure u got a 2000+ shit ur pros sucks if its only goin 1250
I got 1800+ thats 1.53
My dads got a 2100+ which is about 1.79


Posted by whiskers on Jan-17-2004 18:58:

Re: Re: techie help part 2 (processor remix)

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Sounds to me like your FSB speed is set too low. Let's say your FSB was set to 200 MHz to get that 1250 MHz, that gives a multiplier of 6.25 and if your FSB was set properly at 266 MHz then you'd have a 1663 MHz processor running speed.

What you probably don't want to do is change the multiplier. However, if the FSB speed is set lower than it should be, you can safely raise that to whatever your motherboard will support (if your motherboard doesn't support high enough FSB speeds, that may be part of the problem as well).

Hope that helps.




yeah, i don't quite remember, but i think my XP2800 is set to 133FSB / 15x multiplier, which yields the default 2GHz

search www.groups.google.com for "athlon 2000 fsb setting" or something like that


Posted by Neo nEro on Jan-17-2004 19:29:

the athelon xp processor is rated by what equivalent of the p4 it could beat. so the number after the processor does not determine the clock speed.


Posted by Azz3D on Jan-17-2004 20:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Neo nEro
the athelon xp processor is rated by what equivalent of the p4 it could beat.


That might have been the case in the early days of althlon xp, but not anymore. That number is the "PR rating" and its based on the variety of benchmarks which AMD has done previously.

Nowadays, there are 2 main athlon XP cores: the "throughbred", and "barton"
there is also a palomino core, which was built on a 0.18 micron process, and originally for notebooks, but I dont see too many people with those anymore


1.47GHz (AMD 1700+)
1.53GHz (AMD 1800+)
1.6GHz (AMD 1900+)
1.67GHz (AMD 2000+)
1.73GHz (AMD 2100+)
1.8GHz (AMD 2200+)
1.9GHz (AMD 2600+)
2GHz (AMD 2400+)
2.08GHz (AMD 2600+) 333 FSB
2.17GHz (AMD 2700+)
1.83GHz (AMD Barton 2500+)
2.08GHz (AMD Barton 2800+)
2.17GHz (AMD Barton 3000+)
2.1GHz (AMD Barton 3000+)
2.2GHz (AMD Barton 3200+)

AMD owns intel in the lower end processor market, but has had trouble keeping up in the high end market. Don't forget, clock speed doesnt mean anything (cause AMD processors do more work per clock cycle). This is why Athlon XP @ 1.47Ghz sweeps the floor with Intel P4 @2.0. But ever since the introduction of the new P4"C" intel models (2.4Ghz and up, with the 800FSB, and HT), AMD has had trouble keeping up..


Posted by KilldaDJ on Jan-17-2004 21:34:

King Re: Re: techie help part 2 (processor remix)

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Sounds to me like your FSB speed is set too low. Let's say your FSB was set to 200 MHz to get that 1250 MHz, that gives a multiplier of 6.25 and if your FSB was set properly at 266 MHz then you'd have a 1663 MHz processor running speed.

What you probably don't want to do is change the multiplier. However, if the FSB speed is set lower than it should be, you can safely raise that to whatever your motherboard will support (if your motherboard doesn't support high enough FSB speeds, that may be part of the problem as well).

Hope that helps.


that helped ALOT

i know for a fact that my xp2000+ can get to 1.6ghz as i gotten that speed in 98 before, but when i went to set the FSB speed to 133mhz in the BIOS, my XP wouldnt boot up, then i got some error abt corruption in the MBR/bootsector damaged etc

so i got the option to CHKDSK it, i did that and windows just put my entire C: to one file, and my C: got entirely corrupted.

my mobo has got some function on it which if the processor is overclocked, it wont boot or something.

i'll try again and hopefully it will work this time, atm my FSB is at 100mhz, which denotes the 1250mhz performance

wish me luck...


Posted by mndeg on Jan-17-2004 22:44:

my athlon xp 2500 runs at 1.7 ghz default i have it running at 2.2 ghz right now


Posted by SuperFarStucker on Jan-17-2004 22:47:

Your motherboard is a piece of junk is the short of it. You need a 133 FSB mobo. Most 100 fsb mobo's can't run 133 stable although you're free to try. You might be able to run at 110 or so to mitigate the difference.


Posted by whiskers on Jan-17-2004 23:05:

quote:
Originally posted by mndeg
my athlon xp 2500 runs at 1.7 ghz default i have it running at 2.2 ghz right now



are you using the generic fan / heatsink that came with it?

what's the general temperature?


Posted by o0moonman0o on Jan-18-2004 01:32:

xp 2500+ defaults at 1.8 not 1.7,


Posted by KilldaDJ on Jan-18-2004 01:36:

Unhappy

quote:
Originally posted by SuperFarStucker
Your motherboard is a piece of junk is the short of it. You need a 133 FSB mobo. Most 100 fsb mobo's can't run 133 stable although you're free to try. You might be able to run at 110 or so to mitigate the difference.


my motherboard supports both 100/133mhz, it says in the manual, that i gotta short some jumpers to set the FSB as well as do it in the bios, but when i went to set the FSB (jumper wise) the system didnt get past the POST and my monitor didnt boot up, so i had to reset the CMOS, then the problems started happening again...
i got into windows with an overclock of 120mhz, that made my pc run at 1.5ghz, which is below what it should be at. my C: started to go corrupt. i had to reinstall XP, so i did that. now im back to square one, at 1250mhz. i fucking hate this, my processor is capable of 1.6ghz but the system is happy with 1.3ghz...POS


well, i guess im stuck at 1.3ghz.


Posted by Matt on Jan-18-2004 01:57:

I had this problem when I first got my 1900+

There should be an option in bios to change the FSB clockspeed (100/133)


Posted by Matt on Jan-18-2004 02:01:

oops, just read through...

What's your motherboard make/model

And what BIOS is it running? (Phoenix, CMOS, etc.)


Posted by KilldaDJ on Jan-18-2004 02:06:

King

quote:
Originally posted by Mosaic
oops, just read through...

What's your motherboard make/model

And what BIOS is it running? (Phoenix, CMOS, etc.)


ASROCK K7VT2

and my bios is er...*digs out manual*

some AMI bios...supports jumperfree SMIBIOS 2.3.1 support blah blah blah


Posted by Matt on Jan-18-2004 02:24:

Okay, so as I understand it:

The fSB can be set on the motherboard using jumpers.

1 [2 3]
Gives you FSB 100MHZ

[1 2] 3
Gives you FSB 133MHZ


Obviously, you want the latter option.



Try this:

Set the jumper to 100MHZ

Open the BIOS, under the ADVANCED tab, set the CPU Host Frequency to AUTO

Save, Shutdown

Now, pop the jumper to 133MHZ.

Startup, see what happens.


Posted by SuperFarStucker on Jan-18-2004 04:11:

a lot of boards that say they support 133 fsb really don't, most notably boards with certain via chipsets.


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