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Posted by brunette on Jan-17-2004 14:58:

Confused 2004 Oscar predictions

Well, let's see if I can do this.. it should be interesting
* - winner?

Best Picture
Cold Mountain
The Lord of the Rings: Return of the King
In America
* Mystic River
Lost in Translation

Director
* Sofia Coppola for Lost in Translation
Clint Eastwood for Mystic River
The guy for Lord of the Rings
Anthony Minghella for Cold Mountain
and maybe the guy for Last Samurai

Actress
* Charlize Theron (Monster)
Uma Thurman (Kill Bill: Volume 1)
* Naomi Watts (21 grams)
Cate Blanchett (Veronica Guerin)
I'm out of ideas here

Actor
Jude Law (Cold Mountain)
* Sean Penn (Mystic River)
Johnny Depp (Pirates of the Caribbean)
Bill Murray (Lost in Translation)
and maybe either Tom Cruise or Russel Crowe, I hope neither..

Supporting actress
Scarlet Johanson (Lost in Translation)
* Patricia Clarkson (Station Agent)
Holly Hunter (Thirteen)
Ren�e Zellweger (Cold Mountain)
Marcia Gay Harden (Mystic River)

Supporting actor
* Albert Finney (Big Fish)
William H Macy (Seabiscuit)
Tim Robbins (Mystic River)
Ken Watanabe (The Last Samurai)
Omar Sharif (Monsieur Ibrahim)

Foreign language film
The Barbarian Invasions (in French, Canada)
* Goodbye, Lenin! (Germany)
Osama (Afghanistan)
The Return (Russia)
Monseur Ibrahim (France)

Animated feature
* Finding Nemo
The triplets of Belleville
Brother Bear

Adapted screenplay
* Mystic River
Lord of the Rings
American Splendor
Cold Mountain
Seabiscuit

Original screenplay
* Lost in Translation
21 Grams
In America
The Station Agent
Kill Bill

so?


Posted by ASOT100 on Jan-17-2004 15:06:

Best Picture

Spongebob Squarepants - Christmas


Posted by m0sh on Jan-17-2004 17:15:

quote:
Originally posted by ASOT100
Best Picture

Spongebob Squarepants - Christmas





Posted by [ groovypants ] on Jan-17-2004 22:06:

I vouch for Lost In Translation in all catergories!

The movie is sooo dreamy! Makes you want to go to Japan!


Posted by TeKnoHe@d2025 on Jan-17-2004 22:31:

Re: 2004 Oscar predictions

quote:
Originally posted by brunette
The guy for Lord of the Rings


That's pretty damn ignorant. Give credit where credit is due. Peter Jackson did an amazing job directing those movies.


Posted by Pio on Jan-17-2004 22:52:

quote:
Originally posted by [ groovypants ]
I vouch for Lost In Translation in all catergories!

The movie is sooo dreamy! Makes you want to go to Japan!



100% agreed. we have the same taste in film as well.


Posted by IronDragon on Jan-17-2004 23:14:

Re: 2004 Oscar predictions

quote:
Originally posted by brunette
Well, let's see if I can do this.. it should be interesting
* - winner?

Best Picture
Cold Mountain
The Lord of the Rings: Return of the King
In America
* Mystic River
Lost in Translation

Director
* Sofia Coppola for Lost in Translation
Clint Eastwood for Mystic River
The guy for Lord of the Rings
Anthony Minghella for Cold Mountain
and maybe the guy for Last Samurai

Actress
* Charlize Theron (Monster)
Uma Thurman (Kill Bill: Volume 1)
* Naomi Watts (21 grams)
Cate Blanchett (Veronica Guerin)
I'm out of ideas here

Actor
Jude Law (Cold Mountain)
* Sean Penn (Mystic River)
Johnny Depp (Pirates of the Caribbean)
Bill Murray (Lost in Translation)
and maybe either Tom Cruise or Russel Crowe, I hope neither..

Supporting actress
Scarlet Johanson (Lost in Translation)
* Patricia Clarkson (Station Agent)
Holly Hunter (Thirteen)
Ren�e Zellweger (Cold Mountain)
Marcia Gay Harden (Mystic River)

Supporting actor
* Albert Finney (Big Fish)
William H Macy (Seabiscuit)
Tim Robbins (Mystic River)
Ken Watanabe (The Last Samurai)
Omar Sharif (Monsieur Ibrahim)

Foreign language film
The Barbarian Invasions (in French, Canada)
* Goodbye, Lenin! (Germany)
Osama (Afghanistan)
The Return (Russia)
Monseur Ibrahim (France)

Animated feature
* Finding Nemo
The triplets of Belleville
Brother Bear

Adapted screenplay
* Mystic River
Lord of the Rings
American Splendor
Cold Mountain
Seabiscuit

Original screenplay
* Lost in Translation
21 Grams
In America
The Station Agent
Kill Bill

so?


I agree with pretty much all your picks for nominees but I don't think Mystic River will do nearly that well. Also, I think House of Sand and Fog will get some nods.


Posted by brunette on Jan-18-2004 14:59:

Re: Re: 2004 Oscar predictions

quote:
Originally posted by TeKnoHe@d2025
That's pretty damn ignorant. Give credit where credit is due. Peter Jackson did an amazing job directing those movies.


I just don't think 'Lord of the Ring' series were good movies..
sorry I offended you, but I couldn't remember his name

As far as picks.. they're not MY choices, but those that I think academy will select

Regarding 'House of Sand and Fog', it might recieve one or two nominees, but I doubt it will end up winning any


Posted by mute79 on Jan-18-2004 16:21:

^^^ why do you even bother? you know its all fake anyway


Posted by TeKnoHe@d2025 on Jan-18-2004 18:49:

Re: Re: Re: 2004 Oscar predictions

quote:
Originally posted by brunette
I just don't think 'Lord of the Ring' series were good movies..
sorry I offended you, but I couldn't remember his name


I don't think alot of people understand how he went about making those films. He shot all 3 of them at the same time. While he was on set shooting one scene there may have been up to 2 other scenes being shot elsewhere that he was directing as well, via a live video feed. That's quite an accomplishment if you ask me.


Posted by m0sh on Jan-18-2004 21:33:

my friend told me that mystic river is weak.

great acting but very weak plot , so I'll doubt it win.

Lost in Translation Will take it I think , tho I'd voted for LOTR


Posted by bass drive on Jan-18-2004 22:10:

rant about "Lost in Translation"

I liked the way they presented Japan, but other than that, I found the movie boring and annoying
the two main characters are really annoying. The guy with his what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-those-Jap-people attitude and his smart ass humor. The girl is just blah, if my gf acts like this, I'd go crazy.

now I am bitter, because I was forced to watch this, being told it's a REALLY good movie. I found it more like


if the directors intention was to show Americans as ignorant overseas, then he did a good job


Posted by Z1D on Jan-18-2004 22:29:

^^^^ second that
The Station Agent is twice as good as Lost in Translation.


Posted by Pio on Jan-19-2004 00:15:

quote:
Originally posted by bass drive
rant about "Lost in Translation"

I liked the way they presented Japan, but other than that, I found the movie boring and annoying
the two main characters are really annoying. The guy with his what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-those-Jap-people attitude and his smart ass humor. The girl is just blah, if my gf acts like this, I'd go crazy.

now I am bitter, because I was forced to watch this, being told it's a REALLY good movie. I found it more like


if the directors intention was to show Americans as ignorant overseas, then he did a good job


You just don't get it. What makes Lost in Translation such an amazing movie is its tone, the constant underlying tension between the two main characters that never quite resolves till the end. This movie has a musical/poetic narrative that is probably unparalleled in film history. It's not plot-driven or character-driven, it is tone-driven.

This film is not about ignorant Americans overseas, both of the characters are part of an elite, and I would definitely not call them ignorant. Bill Murray's character has an attitude problem, but it doesn't have anything to do with the Japanese, it's all about his mid-life celebrity crisis. Scarlet Johanssen's character is extremely smart and educated, and she's in her very early 20s with an identity crisis of her own. The way their relationship develops as a function of time in a foreign place is an ode to the global exportation of American culture in contemporary times and how this juxtaposition alters sociocultural spheres in America and abroad.

Not to mention that it is beautifully directed and acted as well.


Posted by brunette on Jan-19-2004 02:00:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceGeek
^^^ why do you even bother? you know its all fake anyway


whatever, as I said last year around this time, it's all about showbiz.. I know that, you know that.. but it's still there. I've been watching the Oscars ever since I can remember and I'll still do it. It's just amusing. I'm not saying that I agree with it, or that an Academy Award is any kind of measure for quality of any movie, but there you have it.


Posted by Stasis on Jan-19-2004 02:13:

I really hope Lost in Translation wins some awards.

I'm a huge action film fan (typical guy) and thought Return of the King and The Last Samurai were awesome movies, but Lost in Translation is far and away my pick for best movie of the year.

I don't know how to descibe why, although YaleTrance does a really good job, but it was the first movie I've ever seen where I just loved every single thing about it.

And Bass Drive, I can totally understand where you're coming from. Probably the worst thing you can do is go on and on about how much a movie is awesome to your friends and then force them to watch it. Almost everytime they'll hate it regardless of how good the movie was. So I can't blame you for not liking it.

Maybe if you watch it alone one day when people have stopped talking about it you'll get to really see it.


Posted by igottaknow on Jan-19-2004 03:11:

Oscars mean very little to me. I don't need the Academy to tell me what's the best movie or who's the best actor. I'll sneak a peek for a few laughs but nothing to get your panties in a bunch over. I can't even remember who or what won last year.


Posted by JayD on Jan-19-2004 03:29:

I assume that Best Picture / Best Director will go to Lord Of The Rings & Peter Jackson. For Actress / Actor definitly Charlize Theron (Monster) in her big transformation in Monster. Close behind im sure will be Naomi Watts for 21 Grams and Uma Thurman for Kill Bill. Supporting actress would be hard because they all did amazing jobs but if it were me I would vote for Scarlet Johanson for her role in Lost in Translation. The same for best supporting actor, yet again I would vote for Tim Robbins (Mystic River).

Foreign language film will go to either The Barbarian Invasions or City Of God. Animated feature definitly Finding Nemo. Adapted screenplay, definitly American Splendor. For Original screenplay definitly Lost in Translation.

My assumptions. Dont take my word for it though. Wish them all luch because most of those movie's there are great.

JaY


Posted by Z1D on Jan-19-2004 04:24:

quote:
Originally posted by YaleTrance
You just don't get it. What makes Lost in Translation such an amazing movie is its tone, the constant underlying tension between the two main characters that never quite resolves till the end. This movie has a musical/poetic narrative that is probably unparalleled in film history. It's not plot-driven or character-driven, it is tone-driven.

This film is not about ignorant Americans overseas, both of the characters are part of an elite, and I would definitely not call them ignorant. Bill Murray's character has an attitude problem, but it doesn't have anything to do with the Japanese, it's all about his mid-life celebrity crisis. Scarlet Johanssen's character is extremely smart and educated, and she's in her very early 20s with an identity crisis of her own. The way their relationship develops as a function of time in a foreign place is an ode to the global exportation of American culture in contemporary times and how this juxtaposition alters sociocultural spheres in America and abroad.

Not to mention that it is beautifully directed and acted as well.


Look, just go watch The Station Agent then we'll talk.

Oh, and I can't help but suspect you ripped that description straight from a review.


Posted by Pio on Jan-19-2004 04:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Z1D
Look, just go watch The Station Agent then we'll talk.

Oh, and I can't help but suspect you ripped that description straight from a review.


Yes, I have to watch that. And no, I haven't even read a review for Lost in Translation, no need to accuse me of plagiarism.


Posted by malek on Jan-19-2004 06:16:

Foreign language film:
Les invasions barbares (The Barbarian Invasions)

I think it has really good chances of winning... one of the best movies I saw this year, truley excellent with so many subtlities, brought tears to my eyes.

I was quite surprised to see that locals could do such an excellent movie.


Posted by mute79 on Jan-19-2004 14:38:

quote:
Originally posted by brunette
whatever, as I said last year around this time, it's all about showbiz.. I know that, you know that.. but it's still there. I've been watching the Oscars ever since I can remember and I'll still do it. It's just amusing. I'm not saying that I agree with it, or that an Academy Award is any kind of measure for quality of any movie, but there you have it.


right, but whats so amusing about it? i'm obviously missing something.. is it the show they put on? you find that entertaining? or, umm, is it the people themselves? that can't be it as the majority of them are the most conceited, arrogant and selfcentered people you'll ever meet, and to see them parading around on the red carpet, basking in the glitter of camera flashes showcasing the sizes of their egos to the rest of the world is something i just can't handle...

the actual awards are the worst really... i wish it were strictly politics, but it goes way beyond that (and you know that).. look what happened 2 years ago, they sat down and said, "hmm, you know what, we're takin' some heat for being racist, so since we havent been handing out awards to any black actors, maybe now we should dedicate one show to them, give them top 3 awards and get it over with for a while"... don't you find that mentality repulsing?

all these award ceremonies are yet another marketing ploys used to shove crap down people's throats in order to generate revenue for the money hungry hollywood! we both know that if the awards were real, then they should not be given to LOTR, cold mountain, chicago, Titanic!!, etc., and all other recycled annoying cliches, instead they should be given elsewhere where it could actually be used to expose to the general public the independent innovative film industries producing true pioneering work.. but we know thats never gonna happen..

meh, like you said, its showbiz, but the ugly side of it, and i refuse to watch and give in to the oscars hype, ie. fakeness, just like last year..


Posted by mute79 on Jan-19-2004 14:40:

quote:
Originally posted by ahlamalek
Foreign language film:
Les invasions barbares (The Barbarian Invasions)

I think it has really good chances of winning... one of the best movies I saw this year, truley excellent with so many subtlities, brought tears to my eyes.

I was quite surprised to see that locals could do such an excellent movie.


man, i dont see how barbarian invasions can win anything.. i'm surprised it made it even got released..


Posted by Pheobius on Jan-19-2004 16:19:

The oscar judges will be pretty damn stupid if they give LOTR ROTK an oscar for best picture when TTT didn't get one, the later was sooooomuch better as a film, and the acting was better so blah


Posted by malek on Jan-19-2004 17:03:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceGeek
man, i dont see how barbarian invasions can win anything.. i'm surprised it made it even got released..


maybe some stuff was lost in the translation... or simply that you didn't get it, and you're not alone.


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