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The Southern States scare me

Now not everyone of the South is rapped up in this religous right fervor of G.W.Bush but the South really scares the hell out of me, it is amazing how many commentaries I have seen on the president's speech in which many individuals from places in Texas, Georgia, Alabama, etc,etc are utilizing this man's references to God as a hallmark of his strength as president. This man's decorum as a president is truly lacking in his understanding of what the United States should represent in our world, he has literally taken the greatest democracy in history and trashed it with his neo-con b.s. I cannot believe that so many in the South believe that what this guy is doing to our nation is somehow a beautiful thing. Let us just hope that Florida doesn't vote Republican this November because I truly am concerned about another 4 years of this president in office.

G.W. Bush managed to turn me from a supporter when he first took office, to loathing him today for his policies, every time he opens his mouth something even dumber than expectation comes out. A concerted effort is going to be needed to send one of the worst presidents packing back to Crawford, Texas to stay for good. Let us pray that Congresss slams the door shut on that idiotic Patriot Act. I weep for our nation when we are lead by this individual. What is even scarier is that he could start a war tomorrow and the South would still vote for him. He led us into a conflict that has failed to verify his administrations pathetic claims, now he speaks of democracy in the Middle East, only the most foolhardy can believe that this man can bring democracy to the Mid-East. I can only hope that last night was his last State of the Union speech, perhaps the most partisan, one sided, electioneering piece of crap produced by speechwriters.

I guess Abraham Lincoln is to blame for the current situation. Who needs the southern states anyway? The only thing they do is tip the support in favor of the religious/conservative/reactionist candidates while they don't do anything in terms of production or research. You should had let them have their own little country, and everybody would be happier now.

actually, southern states, or more specifically the 'sun-belt,' provide the cradle of the US's high-technology semiconductor and advanced R&D industries. These industries, and the service and defense-based economy they promote, are critical to sustaining an economic system that was once-based on manufacturing and productive industries (in the industrial northeast).

Well Yee-Haw!! Way to come off as a separatist!

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 Who needs the southern states anyway? The only thing they do is tip the support in favor of the religious/conservative/reactionist candidates

I'm guessing that this would be a non-issue for you if the South still voted strongly Democrat as they historically have. As Bob Dole, and several other southern politicians like to state, the South didn't change - they didn't leave the Democrat party. The Democratic party left them. What do you expect when 80% of the population regularly attends religious services? Strong support for gay marriage? Strong support for removing the 10 Commandments from public buildings?

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Originally posted by imokruok I'm guessing that this would be a non-issue for you if the South still voted strongly Democrat as they historically have. As Bob Dole, and several other southern politicians like to state, the South didn't change - they didn't leave the Democrat party. The Democratic party left them. What do you expect when 80% of the population regularly attends religious services? Strong support for gay marriage? Strong support for removing the 10 Commandments from public buildings?

Funny how they accuse Zell Miller of abandoning his party when his politics haven't changed.

BoooOOOooOOoOOOoOOOoooOOOOOOO!!! ..


Hehehe no but in all seriousness. Those are just individuals. You cant generalize the whole Southern states. The problem is, theres bunch of red necks.. too many dumb peeps in here, I need to get out!

Hey--Florida doesn't even count as the South!

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Originally posted by LiquidX BoooOOOooOOoOOOoOOOoooOOOOOOO!!! .. Hehehe no but in all seriousness. Those are just individuals. You cant generalize the whole Southern states. The problem is, theres bunch of red necks.. too many dumb peeps in here, I need to get out!

You can when they throw unfletching support behind Bush, eat up all of his religous statements as though he was the Pope in the middle of the Piazza del San Marco and believe that the man cannot do anything wrong. When I speak of the Southern states I am referring to voting in the national elections anything else I can care less, this is just in reference to an almost blind allegiance by many Southerners to Bush no matter what. As I so often like to highlight I originally was willing to give Bush a chance and supported him, however as time has progressed the man has demonstrated that he has one agenda for this nation and he and his fellow conservative buddies in the Cabinet will fulfill them at any cost. This is what turned me off, his disrespectul, condascending and bullish mindset that seems to be only swayed by the neo-cons surrounding him on a daily basis, including the cirlcle of RASPUTINS such as Rove, Wolfowitz, Chaney, Rumsfeld and of course Halliburton.

welcome to my world.

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Originally posted by Shakka Hey--Florida doesn't even count as the South!

Thats right! Its America's whang|

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Originally posted by NYCTrancefan You can when they throw unfletching support behind Bush, eat up all of his religous statements as though he was the Pope in the middle of the Piazza del San Marco and believe that the man cannot do anything wrong. When I speak of the Southern states I am referring to voting in the national elections anything else I can care less, this is just in reference to an almost blind allegiance by many Southerners to Bush no matter what. As I so often like to highlight I originally was willing to give Bush a chance and supported him, however as time has progressed the man has demonstrated that he has one agenda for this nation and he and his fellow conservative buddies in the Cabinet will fulfill them at any cost. This is what turned me off, his disrespectul, condascending and bullish mindset that seems to be only swayed by the neo-cons surrounding him on a daily basis, including the cirlcle of RASPUTINS such as Rove, Wolfowitz, Chaney, Rumsfeld and of course Halliburton.

You have found the Matrix, I welcome you, as you have finally opend up your eyes

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Originally posted by imokruok I'm guessing that this would be a non-issue for you if the South still voted strongly Democrat as they historically have. As Bob Dole, and several other southern politicians like to state, the South didn't change - they didn't leave the Democrat party. The Democratic party left them. What do you expect when 80% of the population regularly attends religious services? Strong support for gay marriage? Strong support for removing the 10 Commandments from public buildings?

Heh, when the south voted democrat, democrats were reactionist while the republicans were progressive. During the time of your civil war, it was the republicans who wanted to abolish slavery, while the democrats wanted to keep the status quo.

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Originally posted by NYCTrancefan When I speak of the Southern states I am referring to voting in the national elections anything else I can care less, this is just in reference to an almost blind allegiance by many Southerners to Bush no matter what.

Kind of like Massholes who religiously vote for the Kennedies, regardless of the fact that it's one of the most politically corrupt families headed up by a drunken, rapist buffoon? Nah, I don't think it could be quite that bad.

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As I so often like to highlight I originally was willing to give Bush a chance and supported him

I feel the same way about Pete Rose

The Axis of Evil

Two reasons to worry about Southerners...



...empties!

Lol!
[[[smoke]]]

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 I guess Abraham Lincoln is to blame for the current situation. Who needs the southern states anyway? The only thing they do is tip the support in favor of the religious/conservative/reactionist candidates while they don't do anything in terms of production or research. You should had let them have their own little country, and everybody would be happier now.

Without the Southern states, You wouldn't have an America.

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Originally posted by NYCTrancefan You can when they throw unfletching support behind Bush, eat up all of his religous statements as though he was the Pope in the middle of the Piazza del San Marco and believe that the man cannot do anything wrong. When I speak of the Southern states I am referring to voting in the national elections anything else I can care less, this is just in reference to an almost blind allegiance by many Southerners to Bush no matter what. As I so often like to highlight I originally was willing to give Bush a chance and supported him, however as time has progressed the man has demonstrated that he has one agenda for this nation and he and his fellow conservative buddies in the Cabinet will fulfill them at any cost. This is what turned me off, his disrespectul, condascending and bullish mindset that seems to be only swayed by the neo-cons surrounding him on a daily basis, including the cirlcle of RASPUTINS such as Rove, Wolfowitz, Chaney, Rumsfeld and of course Halliburton.

Hmm,So I can generalize and say that all northerners are complete idiotic liberals? If you can say insulting things about the Southerns, I can equally say such nasty things about the Northerners. But, I'm not mean like that.

Everyone has a right to vote for whom they please. That's the beauty of this counrty. I won't deny you of your freedom of speech, But with that freedom is responsibility, the first amendment does not support lude,rude,and insulting comments.

So,really if you have beef with our rights, I wouldn't be complaining about it here, I'd be complaining elsewhere.

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Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487 Without the Southern states, You wouldn't have an America.

Well technically you wouldnt have 'an America' without:

Canada,
USA,
Mexico,
Latin America,
and all of South America...

they are all "america" you know|

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Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487 ... Everyone has a right to vote for whom they please. That's the beauty of this counrty. I won't deny you of your freedom of speech, But with that freedom is responsibility, [size]the first amendment does not support lude,rude,and insulting comments.[/size] So,really if you have beef with our rights, I wouldn't be complaining about it here, I'd be complaining elsewhere.

hmm...give me some more information as to where free speech is protected, but not certain *types* of free speech?

we may be in some form loudmouthed, liberal, Northerners - but i dont think that should limit our free speech|

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Originally posted by biznology hmm...give me some more information as to where free speech is protected, but not certain *types* of free speech? we may be in some form loudmouthed, liberal, Northerners - but i dont think that should limit our free speech|

Actually free speech is limited to the point where your freedom of speech does not infringe upon another person's rights. For example, slander, whilst being speech, is typically illegal. Or another example, a doctor releasing your medical records to the public or telling his friends about your condition, is not protected as "free" speech.

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Originally posted by occrider Actually free speech is limited to the point where your freedom of speech does not infringe upon another person's rights. For example, slander, whilst being speech, is typically illegal. Or another example, a doctor releasing your medical records to the public or telling his friends about your condition, is not protected as "free" speech.

well of course i understand slander limitations...but as far as i know you can say: "southerners dont like to read books" and i dont think youd get sued...am i wrong?

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Originally posted by biznology well of course i understand slander limitations...but as far as i know you can say: "southerners dont like to read books" and i dont think youd get sued...am i wrong?

Hey you just asked for examples not to debate the issue

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Originally posted by occrider Hey you just asked for examples not to debate the issue

hey shove it!

old people shouldnt be able to drive!!

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Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487 Hmm,So I can generalize and say that all northerners are complete idiotic liberals? If you can say insulting things about the Southerns, I can equally say such nasty things about the Northerners. But, I'm not mean like that. Everyone has a right to vote for whom they please. That's the beauty of this counrty. I won't deny you of your freedom of speech, But with that freedom is responsibility, the first amendment does not support lude,rude,and insulting comments. So,really if you have beef with our rights, I wouldn't be complaining about it here, I'd be complaining elsewhere.

Hey definitely my intention is not to offend Southerners as a people, this is simply an opinion on my part in the context of politics, not lifestyle, accents, decorum, attittudes,etc. We must admit that the influence of the South on the electoral process at the national level is profound. I was making reference to the fact that I saw quite a few opinions from the South on Bush's speech and you heard themes such as "it was a terrific speech, God Bless America, its nice that he was against homosexuality because its a sin, Bush is making America more secure, etc.

How can anyone offer up a worthwile defence for a man who has led our nation into war and failed to verify the claims that he made before the nation about Iraq, I would under no circumstance supported the Iraq war if it was simply to get rid of Hussein, as it now seems to have been the case. Now I look back on it Iraq posed no more of a threat than North Korea, Iran, etc. Maybe the South will wake up and realize that young Americans have died in a foreign land and it is time for G.W. Bush to be held accountable for his lies eminating from Washington. This administration no longer represents the American people, but its own clique. Why are there no W.M.Ds in Iraq, why are there fewer American jobs under Bush, why is it only the U.S. that should be spreading "democracy" in the Middle East, why is it that the compassionate conservative and the leave no child behind candidate in 2000 is at odds with those very statements right now, why is it that the patriotism of any American has to be questioned if they are against this government's policies, I am an American but will no longer blindly say that Bush is a positive leader for this nation, he is not. I just hope the South awakens to this reality.

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