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Posted by sykadelik on Jan-22-2004 21:30:

Warning - this is real, graphic and disturbing!

Was sent this at work today.

Its supposed to be a perfect demonstration of US over-exuberence on the field of battle - it may even break the rules of engagement and clauses under the Geneva convention. Ie. friendly fire, Americans vs Americans in Iraq!

http://home.comcast.net/~e.franzen/...pter_Kills.mpeg

Posted by thesuperfunk on Jan-22-2004 23:16:

Posted by tu_face on Jan-23-2004 11:26:

that poor bastard trying to crawl away after they blew up a truck in front of him...

stupid ****s

Posted by chojin on Jan-23-2004 11:30:

am confused, was that americans vs americans?

Posted by DJ_FRAZ on Jan-23-2004 11:52:

chrrist

Posted by magnasoma on Jan-23-2004 12:29:

And he turned unto them and cried; "Let the feast of fools begin!"

Posted by Ste on Jan-23-2004 13:42:

is that really friendly fire? they dont look like american vehicles to me...

how does it break the rules on engagment though?

its not like they were waving a white flag were they?

just wondering...

Posted by tu_face on Jan-23-2004 14:29:

they were army convoy trucks by the looks of things

Posted by Spin Doctor on Jan-23-2004 19:09:

That video just about sums up the �American way of life� for me.

And was it really needed to shoot that guy who rolled over ffs? He'd already been injured. Shooting a wounded person...great lets all just throw the geneva convention out of the window.

Posted by sykadelik on Jan-23-2004 20:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Ste
is that really friendly fire? they dont look like american vehicles to me...

how does it break the rules on engagment though?

its not like they were waving a white flag were they?

just wondering...

Aye, they are US convoy trucks. If you look the guy on the left waves a white flag shortly before he is gunned down. Fuk knows how this ever got on the net! Either way, not sure wots best, fighting with the yanks or against them

Posted by Ste on Jan-23-2004 20:23:

quote:
Originally posted by sykadelik
Aye, they are US convoy trucks. If you look the guy on the left waves a white flag shortly before he is gunned down. Fuk knows how this ever got on the net! Either way, not sure wots best, fighting with the yanks or against them

yeh i thought i saw him wave a hanky or summat, was jsut confirming! it is a biut dierty why woould the army let that sorta shit get on the net?

Posted by rabbitjoker on Jan-26-2004 17:54:

Stop the American bashing for christ's sake.

Posted by Cru54d3r on Jan-26-2004 17:56:

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
Stop the American bashing for christ's sake.

Posted by DRM on Jan-26-2004 18:08:

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
Stop the American bashing for christ's sake.

I'll second the

Posted by DjDeComp on Jan-26-2004 18:10:

Posted by Ste on Jan-26-2004 18:41:

quote:
Originally posted by DjDeComp

*bashes decomp with a mallet's mallet*

Posted by AntronVee on Jan-26-2004 19:48:

i dunno if that's friendly fire. it looks like iraqi's rummaging through some US vehicles. cuz if you look there's 3 vehicles and only 3 guys. why would the US put one guy in each vehicle? also one of them is a pickup truck...not the best war vehicle if you know what i mean. furthermore they dont have any equipment on their heads...no helmet and no nightvision goggles. kinda odd not to use nightvision if you're on a mission at night. also, i dont think that guy waves a flag...if you look closely it looks like part of his clothing blowing in the wind(keep in mind iraqi's wear loose cloths) when he steps down the stairs of the truck he's on right before he's shot. and as for not shooting someone who's injured, you dont shoot an enemy and leave him injured cuz he could make it back to base or to a hospital to get fixed up and come back into action...not something you wanna leave to chance in a war situation. and last, if they were our guys on the ground then the guys in the helicopter would have a way to radio them or someone else who can confirm if they're friend or foe. i dunno, just my thoughts...

Posted by magnasoma on Jan-26-2004 19:55:

they got to u first, huh.

Posted by Ste on Jan-26-2004 20:03:

quote:
Originally posted by AntronVee
i dunno if that's friendly fire. it looks like iraqi's rummaging through some US vehicles. cuz if you look there's 3 vehicles and only 3 guys. why would the US put one guy in each vehicle? also one of them is a pickup truck...not the best war vehicle if you know what i mean. furthermore they dont have any equipment on their heads...no helmet and no nightvision goggles. kinda odd not to use nightvision if you're on a mission at night. also, i dont think that guy waves a flag...if you look closely it looks like part of his clothing blowing in the wind(keep in mind iraqi's wear loose cloths) when he steps down the stairs of the truck he's on right before he's shot. and as for not shooting someone who's injured, you dont shoot an enemy and leave him injured cuz he could make it back to base or to a hospital to get fixed up and come back into action...not something you wanna leave to chance in a war situation. and last, if they were our guys on the ground then the guys in the helicopter would have a way to radio them or someone else who can confirm if they're friend or foe. i dunno, just my thoughts...

thats what i thought in my first post.

mainly coz i couldnt understand why it woudl of been released by the army if it was friends fire.

Posted by AntronVee on Jan-26-2004 20:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Ste
mainly coz i couldnt understand why it woudl of been released by the army if it was friends fire.

agreed. also the video starts with the 3 guys on the far right side where you later notice the pickup truck to be(which we all know to be a popular vehicle used by iraqi's), so they probably drove out there to see what they could find.

Posted by Spin Doctor on Jan-26-2004 22:33:

quote:
Originally posted by AntronVee
also one of them is a pickup truck...not the best war vehicle if you know what i mean.

Exactly! So why does it need a fucking apache helicopter to blow it up?

quote:
Originally posted by AntronVee
and as for not shooting someone who's injured, you dont shoot an enemy and leave him injured cuz he could make it back to base or to a hospital to get fixed up and come back into action...not something you wanna leave to chance in a war situation. and last, if they were our guys on the ground then the guys in the helicopter would have a way to radio them or someone else who can confirm if they're friend or foe. i dunno, just my thoughts...

It may make �tactical� sense to kill the injured, but it�s a bastard thing to do.

Posted by AntronVee on Jan-26-2004 23:57:

i'm not saying everything they did was justified 100%, i'm just saying i can see why they did what they did. also, do you think the helicopter gunner shoulda let the wounded guy crawl around a while?? it's not like we'd send some of our men to go capture him...same thing with the truck, i bet the helicopter was the closest thing in the area so they blew up the truck to immobalize the enemy, they dont want other iraqi's coming along and using it. also, it doesnt make sense to send out a platoon to kill 3 guys when you already have a helicopter that's right there that can do it...and if you listen close one of the guys goes "you wanna hit the other truck?" with the other one replying "wait for movement on the truck." so it basically came down to a better safe than sorry situation.

Posted by INDY on Jan-27-2004 00:14:

THIS IS SOO SCARY AND MIND BLOWING!

1. those are not america soldiers..i don't think the US military will make such an ERROR!

2. like someone said, the people that were shot did not wave a flag...i believe that was part of an arab clothing.

ps. sy, how did you get your hands on this video this should be like TOP SECRET :/

Posted by Cru54d3r on Jan-27-2004 00:32:

quote:
Originally posted by politicsofdancin
THIS IS SOO SCARY AND MIND BLOWING!

1. those are not america soldiers..i don't think the US military will make such an ERROR!

2. like someone said, the people that were shot did not wave a flag...i believe that was part of an arab clothing.

ps. sy, how did you get your hands on this video this should be like TOP SECRET :/

Whats so scary and mind blowing .. they shot some guys from a helicopter woo .. how will i sleep tonight ?

Posted by Ste on Jan-27-2004 08:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Cru5ad3r
Whats so scary and mind blowing .. they shot some guys from a helicopter woo .. how will i sleep tonight ?

however indy i dunno how you can say you dont know how to american military could make an error when more uk soldiers died from friendly fire from amercian forces during the war than not.

however im not to sure its friendly fire in this case. i think it jsut said that in the email as propagander shock tactics by whichever hippies created it.

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