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How does one tell the genre of the music whether it be trance, techno, drum and bass, garage e.t.c. ?

Can you remember your name???

muravei, what could you possibly mean by asking that?

if you're feeling ok

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Originally posted by grmlyn How does one tell the genre of the music whether it be trance, techno, drum and bass, garage e.t.c. ?

If you can't hear the difference between some trance tracks and techno...ok...not that strange, but if you can't hear the difference between DnB and trance or techno, you're tonedeaf.

DnB has a very recognizable beat patern.

And garage.......I don't feel like talking about it

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Originally posted by grmlyn How does one tell the genre of the music whether it be trance, techno, drum and bass, garage e.t.c. ?

smoking crack is bad for you my friend...

Most people just guess.

(thats true! check some of Amazon's listings! What were they thinking?)

Takes time to be able to tell some genres apart

Garage is evil two step (slow drum'n'bass with no skill)
Drum'N'Bass is 160bpm at least (Difference between it and Jungle is more difficult to tell for some)
Trance is not hard to tell from others
Techno is not hard either

this all takes time to tell apart...even some stuff released now blurs the lines between genres.

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Originally posted by torontotrance Takes time to be able to tell some genres apart Garage is evil two step (slow drum'n'bass with no skill) Drum'N'Bass is 160bpm at least (Difference between it and Jungle is more difficult to tell for some) Trance is not hard to tell from others Techno is not hard either this all takes time to tell apart...even some stuff released now blurs the lines between genres.

Trance is very different from Techno, this is one of those things that once you start getting more exposed to, you'll be able to tell.

Trance: More synths and melodic in a sense
Techno: Harder driving beats and mostly percussion, not much synth
House: Usually 120-130BPM, depending on the type, can sometimes be called "groovy". More defined by the deep bassline and more circular sounding sub-structure (not sure how to really describe it)
Progressive: Slower than trance, derives sort of somewhere between house and trance (is synth-ish but far more reserved and gradual)

Umm... I think those are the most easily confused ones... others like breakbeat, DnB, hardcore, etc. are more easily identifiable

trance - melodic synthy mid-range bpm, 4-on-the-floor, intro-build-climax-outro etc
house - lower-range bpm than trance, more bassy, 4-on-the-floor as well
progressive - slow trance basically, more reserved etc
techno - percussion synths, pounding basslines
Dnb - high bpm percussion (its those superfast drums), a little slower than jungle and more melodic
breaks - slower bpm drum lines than bpm, but is the signature of most breaks, with melodies or synth lines layering the drumline

these are pretty weak definitions but there are certain things that after listening to it for awhile you just are able to tell them apart

Goa - 138-150bpm usually.weird sounds,noises (water dripping,babies crying,frogs croaking,helicopter rotors,outer space effects etc) all sampled.sometimes synthy and trancey at times.synth runs go in an ascending and descending order.goes up then comes all the way back down.as if the sound is coming towards you then it speeds past.......
very experimental.sometimes incorporates the old radio fones (i think thats wot u call them) into the music giving it a somewhat 1960's feel iesychedelic.alot of filtering and paning effects used giving an almost futuristic feel.all with deep deep pounding basslines.with great melodies too.

Damn thats a hard genre to difine lol

http://www.ishkur.com/features/music/index.htm#

try this

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Originally posted by nadezhda http://www.ishkur.com/features/music/index.htm# try this

hell

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Originally posted by nadezhda http://www.ishkur.com/features/music/index.htm# try this

I disagree.

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Originally posted by TwoPlow I disagree.

its fun tho all the same

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Originally posted by nadezhda http://www.ishkur.com/features/music/index.htm# try this

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Originally posted by Romain hell

why hell?
he has his genre's correct with sound clips, just cause ishkur is biased against trance and progressive (which i dislike) doesn't mean the guide wont be somewhat useful to a noob

ishkurs guide sucks
and no you arent special if you have custom status and dislike trance

Oh Ishkur disses trance whine whine whine his guide sucks whine whine whine.

Get real. I really rarely use this smily, but I think it's warranted here:

50 million complaints about my guide on this forum, and only one person--ONE PERSON OUT OF ALL OF YOU--has ever been able to put up any kind of defensible argument, and that's YaleTrance.

What the hell is the matter with you people? Are you all really that hopeless? I thought you're supposed to be "TRANCE ADDICTS".

letsee... er... hmmm.... Ferry Corsten is Techno, Armin Van Buuren is techno, E-Type is techno.. Floorfilla is techno, Svenson & Gielen is techno..................

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Originally posted by Ishkur 50 million complaints about my guide on this forum, and only one person--ONE PERSON OUT OF ALL OF YOU--has ever been able to put up any kind of defensible argument, and that's YaleTrance. What the hell is the matter with you people? Are you all really that hopeless? I thought you're supposed to be "TRANCE ADDICTS".

Ever? Hmph.

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Originally posted by Cobalt Ever? Hmph.

Yeah, that's quite true. I remember in some thread Ishkur and I were defending the guide while YaleTrance was defending modern trance. He did build his argument on facts, and did not state just an opinion (i.e. he didn't say "it rules because it's good" nor "it sucks because I say so").

Don't get me wrong, I still like trance (specially nrg, since I'm a bit fed up with epic trance producers), but if you read carefully, you'll realise Ishkur has a point.

The guide is good i must admit, especially if you take it an electronic guide. Maybe trance would just need its own guide, updated regularly as it's evolving quite fast...
The guide is instructive, but 1 thing got me in a quite bad mood 1st time i was there:
seeing Ferry Corsten (with the track Elevate) or The Thrillseekers in the "not trance - crap" section.

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Originally posted by Romain The guide is instructive, but 1 thing got me in a quite bad mood 1st time i was there: seeing Ferry Corsten (with the track Elevate) or The Thrillseekers in the "not trance - crap" section.

Believe it or not, it belongs there: and you're hearing it from someone who likes that kind of music.


Keep in mind that trance was something completely different. A modern tendency of trance was to become housey: progressive trance is trance being housey, nrg was hard acid trance being UK hard housey and epic trance is an (evolution/reaction) (of/to) 90's eurodance.

As you can all remember, Eurodance was some sort of "pop edm". The emphasis was on the singers and the producers (who were doing most of the work) were ignored in the mainstream: that's why many eurodance groups are known by the singer's name. Progressive trance had as its mean goal, the will to make trance sound housey. After Rober Miles hit the charts with Children, producers realised they could have the spotlight. The detuned saw waves from eurodance fitted perfectly in the new genre, and the old 4 bar choruses, with pointless lyrics was replaced by 16 bar complex melodies, which showed the producers' musical skills. By this time, trance had become something completely different from the ultra-repetitive music that was born in Germany.

This is why he labels Ferry Corsten as "not trance", and the only reason why I call it trance too, is because I can't find a better name.

Fortunately, I've been seeing what I call a 2nd wave of Epic trance, like "Frenzy" from Haak, which goes back to what trance used to be one day. As everything seems to be cyclical in this life, I really hope this is trance going back to what it's once been, but evolved

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