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I was just wondering what kind of vocals the TOTA's life if any. State what kind of vocals you like w/ examples.

I personally don't like vocals for the most part.

I prefer vocals that are non-sensical-- the voice as an instrument rather than a conveyer of meaning (via lyrics).I fidn a lot of vocals cheesy (for example i don't like 'beautiful things' or 'as teh rush comes')


I also like some vocals that are of the 'pretty' variety, which most ppl who like vocals seem to like.


examples of non-sensical that i like:

laya and bushwacka- It's up to you (thanks to eric for helping me find this track_
dino lenny- I feel stereo

examples of pretty that I like:

schiller- ruhe (humante mix)
obital- halcyon on and on

I hate vocals.. personally.. well 99% of them. Why? I find the human voice is flawed.

oakey's southern sun is a completely different story however. That woman's voice is flawless..

ones i can think of top of my mind:

nonsensical :
Paul Van Dyk & Saint Etienne - How We Used to Live (PVD dub)
whirlpool - under the sun
Tiesto & JunkieXL - Obssession
Avril Lavigne - I'm with you (Leama & moor dub)


pretty tracks (with vocals)
Marco V - I Feel you
Boss@Nova - Stone Cold
Greg Murray - I Feel Love

i can think of many many many many more but i'm too lazy

i feel stereo is one of my favorite songs!!!!

Me i like vocals, but some of it being played too much becomes cheesey.

Right now i like vocals tracks:

dj_tiesto-in_my_memory_(v-one_remix)
dj_tiesto-urban_train_(original_mix)

you mean the humate mix of ruhe (head for their mix of das glockenspiel....much better)

I hate bad vocals

raging was awful
venus was awful
(two songs that should not be played)

I tend to head for the better vocals

Conjure One feat. Sinead O'Conner - Tears From The Moon (HYBRID MIX)
-see this captures the vocal with the energy with the backing track and turns it into the monster (the other mixes don't do this)

Subsola - So Pure (FFrr) (1998)
-A proper dancefloor stormer and almost 6 years later is still played by some deejays. At it's height, it was a powerful vocal trancer with a powerful chorus (see pete tong and paul oakenfold - live cream 6th B-day....for what a crowd rocker it is)


Chicane - Saltwater was a good vocal
Banco De Gaia - Obsidian (PFN vs. the light mix) (vocal made no sense but sounded nice)
Mono Culture - Free (Old Sasha Fave, still works...)

Highland - No Way Out (re-released but still a proper dancefloor destroyer, oakenfold fave but I heard sander k play this out live and it took apart the place)

Cass and Slide - Perception (Vocal Mix)
-normally adding vocals kills the song (don't believe me check out the horrible addition to riva - stringer and what a mess that was). Add Naimee Coleman, add a vocal to an already strong track and you have a masterpiece.

Utah Saints - Lost Vagueness (Lieb Main Mix 2)
-vocal kicks in then the riff backs it....amazing

and my all time fave

Olive - Your Not Alone (Oakenfold and Osbourne 12" mix)
-haunting at best and when that riff kicks in....heaven!

Odd.. I can't stand Southern Sun.

I like the added touch of vocals in tracks like:

Blue Planet Corporation - Digital Forward
VDM - No Hesitation

...many times a good track is tainted with brutal lyrics - a track can be epic without having cheesy vocals saying retarded things.

However, in the case of the G&D tracks - the vocals are what makes them stand out from the rest (cheese or not). Just like IIO - Rapture, without the lyrics the popularity just wouldn't have been there.

shit forgot two others

atlantis vs. avatar - fiji (just says fiji but I like the vocal part with beat)

Delerium feat. Sarah Mclachlan - Silence

ditch the ISO$$$ mix and head for the fade's sanctuary mix.

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Originally posted by Swamper Odd.. I can't stand Southern Sun. I like the added touch of vocals in tracks like: Blue Planet Corporation - Digital Forward VDM - No Hesitation ...many times a good track is tainted with brutal lyrics - a track can be epic without having cheesy vocals saying retarded things. However, in the case of the G&D tracks - the vocals are what makes them stand out from the rest (cheese or not). Just like IIO - Rapture, without the lyrics the popularity just wouldn't have been there.

Yucky, IIO-rapture..:P

VDM- No hestitation i would like it, but after hearing the orginal, it would sound cheesey as ATRC and Beautiful things.

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VDM - No Hesitation

a true classic

Royal Kinks Lift Me (Tkac & Haverlik Remix) [Method Promo]
has the best male vocals, dark, catchy, chunky, groovy.

since we are in vocals here

Plump DJ's feat Gary Numan - Pray For You (lee coombs vocal mix)

-usually a vocal like this, pisses you off but the way the plump's made the original and the vocal mix was done. It works almost too well.

and for the techno people

Slam - Lifetimes
-just a haunting vocal with a great backing beat

and the fuck did i forget this one

Lustral - Everytime

-a true vocal stormer

You like deepness go with the nalin and kane mix
the chillout - WoW mix
or chillout - mike koglin

Re: vocals

I too am almost completely against vocals.

The only cases where I do do vocals, are w/ some spoken vocals, and w/ the sort of 'instrumental' or nonsensical vocals (which are valuable based only on their musical merits).

I'd put the female vocal in Ruhe as my all time fave, w/ a close second and third being the vocals in Cusick & Medway's "Column of Clouds" and Pole Folder's "Dust". None of these use words

Current fave w/ words = Mr. Projectile's "Wild Orchids"

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Originally posted by torontotrance Slam - Lifetimes -just a haunting vocal with a great backing beat

I'm a huge fan of this tune too.
Standout track on one of Emerson's GUs (can't remember which)

Rumor has it that Slam's new album contains another stormer like that

it was on gu020 - singapore

but everyone fails to mention and notice one of the nastier tech house songs in recent memories which is found on gu015 cd 2

Pascal F.E.O.S - I can feel that

Has this cool vocal around what I can only describe as one of the nastiest and overlooked grooves in recent memory (from 1996 btw)

speaking of slam...

the slam remix of dot alison's 'we're only science'..i love those vocals

Hmmm...hard question.

Vocals can definately make or break a song, and quickly...

I think it really depends on the song that's being sung with for me.
Sometimes I envision putting samples of vocals in songs that have no vocals; other times I wish for the dub version...

So I guess, in short, I can't say until I hear the song...

i basically only like vocals where they are used as another musical element or you can't understand what they are saying.

examples:

tone depth - rumblefish
james holden - nothing (nothing returning mix - i hate the one where you can understand what she's singing)
science department - breathe (danny howells drifting dub)

however, there are rare occurences when i like them.

example:

U & K - On and On
Sander Kleinenberg - Soul Shelter
RC Groove & Joshua Collins present Shay Coco Butta - Deep In My Soul

i even like the light's remix of "slave for you".

vocals i can't stand: stuff like "as the rush comes". so many tracks that could be good have been absolutely ruined by cheesy lyrics. it's a fine line

^^^^

wow i thought I was weirdo liking mumbo jumbo lyrics better. I guess it's more common that I thought.

I love the 'nothing' vocals as well.

Sasha & Junkie XL - Beauty Never Fades

Not exactly a trance song, but I love it. Hmmhhh, what else....

Marco V- Godd
Vitalic- Shari vari or Dance like a machine, both amazing songs

i like vocals, pretty much all of them.

The only ones I can't really stand are the ones that are super super super cheese, I can't even think of an example but pretty much if a track makes me burst out laughing when the vocals kick in, that's shit.

Re: vocals

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Originally posted by charmscars I was just wondering what kind of vocals the TOTA's life if any. State what kind of vocals you like w/ examples. I personally don't like vocals for the most part. I prefer vocals that are non-sensical-- the voice as an instrument rather than a conveyer of meaning (via lyrics).I fidn a lot of vocals cheesy (for example i don't like 'beautiful things' or 'as teh rush comes')

I do like vocals but I will agree with those in this thread that say that relying too heavily on vocals just makes things too cheesy for them. I do love the use of the voice as an instrument but I rarely find that this is done, well, if at all, in today's new TRANCE tunes. Don't get me wrong I am not slamming Trance because Armin continues to prove that there is still some great new shit being made. There are always exemptions!

Actually a big reason why I moved towards listening to more Progressive stuff is that TRANCE started to rely too heavily on vocals and non distincitive/chilling vocals at that. Some I dare say even bordered on dance 108 radio friendly cheese. I found that Progressive used vocals in moderation and it tried to use the voice as an additional musical layer rather than just as a way of dropping lyrics.

However, the recent new wave of retro (retro = depeche mode) progressive remixes goes against all that...and I will say...ME NO LIKE! I may be the only person in the world who never liked depeche mode...call me freakgirl!

One of my fave tracks that uses a vocal but has no real lyrics...is Ilay & Beat C - I Saw (Yahel remix)

mumbo jumbo lyrics are indeed the best!

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Originally posted by torontotrance and my all time fave Olive - Your Not Alone (Oakenfold and Osbourne 12" mix) -haunting at best and when that riff kicks in....heaven!

I have a white label of this track that I picked up ages ago...gorgeous.

Vocals are essential, um
sorta like Room 5 and BT's Dreams /or Running Around Town.

And not to mention, male vocals arn't bad either.

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I have a white label of this track that I picked up ages ago...gorgeous.

find me one damnit!

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