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Posted by UglyDave on Jan-26-2004 21:20:

Free Java Development Software

hello,

i'm lookin for some free s/w for codin java apps.
something along the lines of JCreator PRO, but without the price

..it's only about $30, but it's $30 more than i have.

forget the proper name of this tool.. development environment perhaps??

David

Posted by jon on Jan-26-2004 22:07:

try loookinf on a open source site like www.sourceforge.net maybee something there

Posted by Fast Turtle on Jan-26-2004 22:18:

the java software development kit is free to download...

java.sun.com

or more specifically, here:

http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/download.html

Java is kind of a waste of time anyway though, very slow and heavily deprivelaged because it's designed to be web-based.

I guess if you're doing web applications and are familiar with object oriented coding it's not so bad.

The API specs (manual) are all on that java.sun site, too.

Textpad is a nice (mostly free) program to code with.

Posted by Tranc3 on Jan-27-2004 01:29:

Textpad is what I used.

No not Notepad or Wordpad, this is software you download off the 'net and it is fully compatible with Java, C++, and a few other langauges I never used. It's free and it because it recognizes the langauges, it will have the different colors for different commands/variables/etc... that makes programming so much easier.

Posted by Dr. Cfire on Jan-27-2004 01:42:

Re: Free Java Development Software

quote:
Originally posted by UglyDave
hello,

i'm lookin for some free s/w for codin java apps.
something along the lines of JCreator PRO, but without the price

..it's only about $30, but it's $30 more than i have.

forget the proper name of this tool.. development environment perhaps??

David

If you are using *nix you can try eclipse.
http://www.eclipse.org/
If you are using Windows or Mac OS you could try BlueJ. Blue J is not really a development eviroment but check it out.
Blue J will also work in *nix.
http://www.bluej.org/

Posted by PHALPAX on Jan-27-2004 01:44:

I mostly use BlueJ for Java and uhh...*cough*...I use code warrior for C++

By the way, do any TA's use ForTrane here?

Posted by mezzir on Jan-27-2004 02:14:

Posted by Tranc3 on Jan-27-2004 07:37:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Nuclear
Java is kind of a waste of time anyway though, very slow and heavily deprivelaged because it's designed to be web-based.

I guess if you're doing web applications and are familiar with object oriented coding it's not so bad.

I've been under the impression that the Java development team decided that C++ had far too many security risks involved, so they decided to create a language that would run on a virtual machine. In this manner it's actually faster in some respects, like if your program crashes the virtual system you just restart the java app, as opposed to restarting the computer. I believe the web-based applications only started emerging around the mid 90s, although I could be wrong, I wasn't even in High School then, but that's what I remember reading back then.

Plus with a virtual machine the buffer overflow hacks that worked so well back in the day (with an overloaded Finger command) don't work anymore, cause the hacker is restricted to the virtual machine.

Java is also considered by many to be easier to code complex programs in. Actually some programmers are starting to stick Java code into their larger projects instead of going back in C++ because it's so much easier...it's oftentimes referred to as "dirty Java."

Posted by Durafei on Jan-27-2004 14:10:

I used GVIM..

Posted by noikeee on Jan-27-2004 14:42:

learning java was pretty cool.

learning c++ was (is) a fucking nightmare.

there you go.

Posted by Cloudburst on Jan-27-2004 15:55:

I've started to learn Java and it's quite cool. I've used JCreator, Nedit and Xemacs and it works for me, although the biggest thing I've done is a "LocalSearchEngine".

Posted by Mr Game+Watch on Jan-27-2004 17:31:

I use a trial version of Borland JBuilder 9.0 at work...

Posted by el.maestro on Jan-28-2004 00:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Tranc3
I've been under the impression that the Java development team decided that C++ had far too many security risks involved, so they decided to create a language that would run on a virtual machine. In this manner it's actually faster in some respects, like if your program crashes the virtual system you just restart the java app, as opposed to restarting the computer. I believe the web-based applications only started emerging around the mid 90s, although I could be wrong, I wasn't even in High School then, but that's what I remember reading back then.

Plus with a virtual machine the buffer overflow hacks that worked so well back in the day (with an overloaded Finger command) don't work anymore, cause the hacker is restricted to the virtual machine.

Java is also considered by many to be easier to code complex programs in. Actually some programmers are starting to stick Java code into their larger projects instead of going back in C++ because it's so much easier...it's oftentimes referred to as "dirty Java."

The force is strong with this one.