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a description of 'cheese'?

ok, we all see it, 'cheese this' 'cheese that', sammy this, sammy that, whatever... first off, dont all of us trance lovers despise when an ignorant minded fuckface says 'all techno sounds the same' while themselves listening to mtv trl top 10 hits... what the ignorant people like is besides the point here though. what does it take for a song to be classified as cheese? is it the fact that a song or dj recieves so much hype and aknowledgment for something they dont deserve in YOUR OWN PERSONAL opinion? or the fact that there are better songs out there that are unknown? doesnt this all seem a bit too cynical? ok, a lot of people like dj sammy or robert miles or whoever it may be is there 'cheese' of choice. who cares? does that give us or anyone the right to call it cheese and degrade those people for their choice in music? i know you are probably thinking i like this 'cheese' you all speak of. i dont hate it, like i see a lot of people do here. my gf does seem to like the apitamy of what everyone here calls 'cheese' though, go figure.

i guess all this rambling is due to the hyporcritic nature ive seen on many people. would you want someone calling one of your favorite tunes 'repetetive shit with no words'. i get tired of hearing that, as im sure you all do. so dont add to the fire is what im getting at. just ignore someones taste in 'cheese' or country, rock, rap, whatever, if they are liking it for another reason besides there own taste in music (ie because everyone else likes it) or whatever then they are the ones being robbed of listening and liking music that THEY will PERSONALLY truly enjoy.

so what do you all classify as 'cheese' and whats your reasoning?


is 'cheese' interchangable between 'vocal club trance'. isnt that basically what it is that you all condem to the 'cheese' status?

There's a huge thread by xTrancegurlx about this.



Sorry if it sounds harsh, but we really don't need so many threads about the very same question

MY SIG!!

and the genre of real techno, IS repetitive and that's whats good about it its pure energy

but they probably were refering to non techno, probably dj sammy or something

cheese = tunes made for the commercial market (imo)

overplayed tunes are not cheese imo they�re just overplayed

i used the 'search' button and got no where. i searched for 'cheese' and got 1000's upon 1000's of posts which im not going to sort through. and then i searched for 'cheese description' and got nothing.

only 2 people gave a definition of what makes something cheese that was mndeg for use of the 'cheese synth' and t2199. can someone else give a better description of what makes a song 'cheese' and not just labeling certain songs/producers to it but why those songs/producers are labeled that way.

search with settings title and cheese, there are tons of posts on the subject

Its cheesy if you can play it to an audience of 100 and 95 of them will like the song in 2 minutes

mainstream crap that none of us like.

If you are a true tranceAddict, then you know when its cheese or not.

www.cheese.com / www.ilovecheese.com for all your cheesy needs




(btw, all commercial -crap- is cheese, just like BS wannabe tunes )

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Originally posted by Al Cordero If you are a true tranceAddict, then you know when its cheese or not.

FUCKING WORD UP!

Re: a description of 'cheese'?

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Originally posted by ezbeats ok, we all see it, 'cheese this' 'cheese that', sammy this, sammy that, whatever... first off, dont all of us trance lovers despise when an ignorant minded fuckface says 'all techno sounds the same' while themselves listening to mtv trl top 10 hits... what the ignorant people like is besides the point here though. what does it take for a song to be classified as cheese? is it the fact that a song or dj recieves so much hype and aknowledgment for something they dont deserve in YOUR OWN PERSONAL opinion? or the fact that there are better songs out there that are unknown? doesnt this all seem a bit too cynical? ok, a lot of people like dj sammy or robert miles or whoever it may be is there 'cheese' of choice. who cares? does that give us or anyone the right to call it cheese and degrade those people for their choice in music? i know you are probably thinking i like this 'cheese' you all speak of. i dont hate it, like i see a lot of people do here. my gf does seem to like the apitamy of what everyone here calls 'cheese' though, go figure. i guess all this rambling is due to the hyporcritic nature ive seen on many people. would you want someone calling one of your favorite tunes 'repetetive shit with no words'. i get tired of hearing that, as im sure you all do. so dont add to the fire is what im getting at. just ignore someones taste in 'cheese' or country, rock, rap, whatever, if they are liking it for another reason besides there own taste in music (ie because everyone else likes it) or whatever then they are the ones being robbed of listening and liking music that THEY will PERSONALLY truly enjoy. so what do you all classify as 'cheese' and whats your reasoning? is 'cheese' interchangable between 'vocal club trance'. isnt that basically what it is that you all condem to the 'cheese' status?

good job you discovered the underlie hypocrisy of the people who call music �cheese�

my definition of �cheese�

cheese: �I am too fucking lazy and stupid to use my god damn head and try to describe something that I don�t like for a particular reason�

ie:

�that song is cheese�

or

�that song is I am too fucking lazy and stupid to use my god damn head and try to describe something that I don�t like for a particular reason�

In a community such as trancEaddict, which contains members who have followed and loved trance for years, it is only natural that people will resent popular, commercial tracks that sound less original than most trance that we love.

Most commercial tracks are formulaic, contain unoriginal "cheesy" synths, contain vocals with little meaning and basically sound a lot more like pop than trance. I think this is what most people mean when they call DJ Sammy, Lasgo, Ian Van Dahl etc "cheese".

The general sound of club dance music that purports to be trance is noticeably different to our trained ears, and it obviously does not appeal to most of us. However, you have to look at who the music is aimed at.

Commercial dance music is aimed at teenagers and other young people who aren't into harder, more intense dance music. It has a happy, vocal-filled sound because that is more appealing to people who enjoy pop music, and people who are less focused on one particular type of music (dance).

Many producers of commercial dance have been hugely successful, and they have probably earned millions of dollars from their music. (e.g. DJ Sammy, Ian Van Dahl, Scooter ) I would prefer this money to go towards quality trance producers so they can keep on making great choons, but sadly, this is not so.

I think that many people on TA make the mistake of comparing or equating commercial success with "cheese".

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cheese = tunes made for the commercial market (imo) overplayed tunes are not cheese imo they�re just overplayed

Word.

A great track can be overplayed until the point where you get sick of it, but that doesn't stop it from being a great track. I believe that great trance tracks that achieve commercial success should be applauded. It is a worthy reward for trance producers who have worked very hard (probably with little recognition). A trance tune that achieves commercial success is still trance.

On the other hand, a commercial dance track that calls itself trance and achieves success is cheese, not trance. The track was always cheese. Sure, we probably hate it, and it is bloody annoying when artists call it trance when it definitely is not, but hey, just ignore it. There's not much we can do about it.

Finally,

I think that people calling Motorcycle - As The Rush Comes cheese are being quite ignorant and many are merely jumping on the bandwagon so they can look 1337 amongst the other TAs. It is a killer track. No doubt we have all heard it till the cows come home, but we should show some respect around here, instead of dissing one of our own.

Save the hate for the real cheese out there.

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Originally posted by Vigilante I think that people calling Motorcycle - As The Rush Comes cheese are being quite ignorant and many are merely jumping on the bandwagon so they can look 1337 amongst the other TAs.

please.

because someone thinks it is cheesy doesn't mean they are jumping on the bandwagon. it's called having a different opinion than you. deal with it.

for the record, i thought it was cheesy before i ever joined this msg board.

Cheese = a dairy product produced through lactic fermentation, see Gruyere, Swiss, Edam, Cheddar etc!

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Originally posted by nadezhda please. because someone thinks it is cheesy doesn't mean they are jumping on the bandwagon. it's called having a different opinion than you. deal with it. for the record, i thought it was cheesy before i ever joined this msg board.

I expressed MY opinion of what i think cheese is in my post. In MY opinion, people are jumping on the bandwagon by calling ATRC cheese, because i define cheese as commercial dance music that is repetitive, unoriginal and formulaic, not commercially sucessful trance tracks.

its a dairy product made from mouldy milk

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Originally posted by alec Cheese = a dairy product produced through lactic fermentation, see Gruyere, Swiss, Edam, Cheddar etc!

bastards, beat me to it

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