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Is this stupid!

I was bidding for a pair of turntable on eBay, the auction ended but I was the winner. I had been talking to the seller on MSN, for the last 30 mins of the auction, and at the close he agreed to sell me the turntables at the price I had bid.

Right, here is my dillema, if i send him the payment in the requested way, what reassurances do I have that he will ship the item (i mean more than you normally have on ebay becuase there is no record of me winning an auction, hence i have no comeback through ebay if he fucks me, at least thats what i presume).

Payment is also requested in terms of a personal cheque, on the upside I have his address (its not a PO BOX :P), but on the downside i dont have the protection of a credit card company if he fucks me, making it hard to get my cash back.

Basically its 220 for 2 Gemini PT2100 decks, new and boxed with leads and slipmats, an offer i dont want to turn down.

Is this transaction safe? Or am i an idiot for considering it?

Thanks,

Rob

its not stupid to consider the consequences. It can, and has happened. But i've purchased out of eBay like you have and things turned out fine.

Its all about trust. Does his feedback look good? If it is, then he is very likely to honour the transaction. You have his address, MSN, and you can obtain his phone number through ebay as well i think.

If it does go wrong, you have no protection through eBay or Credit card insurance, so the risk is still there.

If i were you, and his feedback is good, i would go for it.

pretty much what lam said check his feedback, if not are you with in distance of picking the item up in person?

he lives in a place in east yorks, would cost me 22 pounds to get there and back on the train, not to mention its awkward to manage both boxed turntables, would also have to get a cab from train station back to the uni.

Allough it would make me feel better, and the delivery isn't too far from this figure.

unfortunatly his feedback rating is one, positive tho heh, oh and he was a buyer on that occasion and not selling.

only one feedback rating

does the guy seem genuine when u spoke to him?

i only ever been skanked twice on ebay which is enough, but it was resolved after a matter of time. I bought an old skool transformer for me mates 21st and i never received it even i paid for the extra 25 pound buisness priority shipping (dont ask) from america, it was resolved after about 5 months over email, he offered a refund.

2nd one was in november when i won a pair of shure white label carts, never came, after about a month of emailing etc etc, he offered a refund, but i declined it and wanted the item, so i said i would pay extra for shipping insurance, got the item in about a weeks time.

Apart from that, the most expensive thing i bought was my sony t1 digital camcorder and that was from HK. The worrying thing was it was meant to be 3 days shipping, and ppl who bought stuff from this guy like a day after, received it within 3 days, mine took about a fortnight... and i paid 330quid, that shit me up a bit. Suppose its about trust end of the day, but obviously if u pay by credit card/paypal u have some sort of insurance, not sure about paypal actually.

is it actually illegal for him to take my payment and not send the goods? in the sense that there is no contract, i didn't win the bid in theory and there is nothing to uphold the transaction.

Basically if he sent me nothing would I have a case (legal) for trying to recoup my cash?

I'm worried that i'm so tempted by the offer i am going to just send the money based on goodwill and a 40 min msn converstation. I mean how stupid would i look sayin yeah i lost 240 quid but he seemed like a nice guy!

ah ed ya see, never buy from abroad, coz ya cant send the heavies (liek that lass off pop idol) round if he doesnt stump up the goods



tbh i have never bought anything super expensive off ebay, i have paid about �10 for a record, but i have have bought about 6 or 7 of the buggers and all went we,l except one guy who took an extra week to deliver, but no biggie.

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Originally posted by CraSHer[UK] is it actually illegal for him to take my payment and not send the goods? in the sense that there is no contract, i didn't win the bid in theory and there is nothing to uphold the transaction. Basically if he sent me nothing would I have a case (legal) for trying to recoup my cash? I'm worried that i'm so tempted by the offer i am going to just send the money based on goodwill and a 40 min msn converstation. I mean how stupid would i look sayin yeah i lost 240 quid but he seemed like a nice guy!

can you explain in detail how the bid ended? were you the only bidder and did he stop it and arrange a deal outside of ebay to avoid letting ebay take commision (which would be like 15 quid or sumthing for that pirce)?

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Originally posted by Ste can you explain in detail how the bid ended? were you the only bidder and did he stop it and arrange a deal outside of ebay to avoid letting ebay take commision (which would be like 15 quid or sumthing for that pirce)?

Basically, I was the higest bidder (but not the only bidder) when the auction ended, but the reserve price had not been met. He didn't actually stop the auction himself, it ended as any other auction does, and all that i saw on the screen was than ominous big cross saying you were the higest bidder but the reserve was not met.

However, i had been talking to the guy on MSN for the last 30 mins of the auction and i had agreed that if no one else outbid me then I would make a fair offer, after the auction he accepted by offer, gave me his address for me to send the cheque and said that he would deliver the goods by parcelforce as soon as the funds cleared.

My worry is do i have any legal position if he decides not to send the goods? Allough i do have his address, so like you metnioned I could always send someone around.

go and pick them up. ste carried decks from darlington to birmimgham on the train and walking, im sure you can manage it!

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Originally posted by *HaRRy* go and pick them up. ste carried decks from darlington to birmimgham on the train and walking, im sure you can manage it!

haha yeh in a massive suitcase with wheels at one end, it was proper heavy tho, hehe

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Originally posted by CraSHer[UK] My worry is do i have any legal position if he decides not to send the goods? Allough i do have his address, so like you metnioned I could always send someone around.

No unfortunately. There is nothing to say that you have purchased it. No contract or receipt, no help from ebay if he doesn't send (although ebay are hopeless anyway and will do near nothing to help people who have been victims of fraud). No nothing basically. If he fucks you over there isn't really anything you can do about it. On the plus side though this guy is willing to take a cheque which means you now know where he lives, and as a bonus he can't deny he hasn't received the payment (ie. if you had sent cash.) If he was going to rip you off it is more likely he would have requested you pay via Paypal.

I personally would never purchase anything from ebay over �50 but in this case I think you should be safe.

sorry to keep asking questions, but i dont want to fuck this up.

My mate has kindly agreed to drive me up there to collect them, hence solving the problem of him not sending.

But, is this a good deal? I heard the Gemini PT2100 doesn't ship with carts, is this true, if so, if you include petrol money and 40 for a pair of Stanton 500AL Cartridge and Stylus, i'm looking at 290 pounds for the two decks.

Worth it? He says as new in ebay, but now concedes "as new" and in "very good condition" (as I expected), on the other hand if its used it will have carts (ive emailed him to find out), I hear the PT2100 is a nice deck, so whats your opinion?

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Originally posted by CraSHer[UK] he lives in a place in east yorks, would cost me 22 pounds to get there and back on the train, not to mention its awkward to manage both boxed turntables, would also have to get a cab from train station back to the uni. Allough it would make me feel better, and the delivery isn't too far from this figure.

If he fucks you over, give him my address and I'll rob his arse

I dont live far from there

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