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Posted by loconet on Jan-29-2004 00:15:

New Internet Explorer Security Hole

After the constant discoveries of holes and Microsoft's refusal to admit there are holes in IE, I ask: Why do people keep using Internet Explorer? I don't get it.

Read for yourself:

http://www.infoworld.com/article/04...HNiehole_1.html

Demo of hole:

http://secunia.com/Internet_Explore..._Spoofing_Test/


Yup, anyone can pretty much spoof a file type, let you think its a .pdf .html or whatever when it's actually a .exe and boom you got a nice chance for viruses to get in. GO IE!!

Stop using that crap browser and save me some time wasted on useless tech-support calls!


Posted by Shudder on Jan-29-2004 00:20:

does this only affect IE? cause im using mozilla right now


Posted by Boomer187 on Jan-29-2004 00:22:

i just don't download anything and I am fine.

know your enemy.


Posted by loconet on Jan-29-2004 00:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Shudder
does this only affect IE? cause im using mozilla right now


Mozilla is unaffected. It knows how to open files properly.


Posted by Shudder on Jan-29-2004 01:45:

quote:
Originally posted by loconet
Mozilla is unaffected. It knows how to open files properly.


lol. you make IE sound retarded.


Posted by loconet on Jan-29-2004 02:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Shudder
lol. you make IE sound retarded.


It doesn't need my help


Posted by arctic on Jan-29-2004 04:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Shudder
lol. you make IE sound retarded.


That's because it is.

Either way, Mozilla is a lot easier to use anyhow. The inbuilt google search bar (Much smaller than the official google bar), the tabled browsing, the popup blocker, the list just goes on.


Posted by loca on Jan-29-2004 11:30:

quote:
Originally posted by arctic
That's because it is.

Either way, Mozilla is a lot easier to use anyhow. The inbuilt google search bar (Much smaller than the official google bar), the tabled browsing, the popup blocker, the list just goes on.






and IE _is_ retarded


Posted by Sand Leaper on Jan-29-2004 11:55:

That's it, I'm switching to Opera permanently. Just wish I didn't have all this trouble with animation when using it...


Posted by KilldaDJ on Jan-29-2004 18:57:

King

my opera is broken, doesnt like the www.tranceaddict.com bit

so i gotta do tranceaddict.com

either way ie is pure bollocks.


Posted by Ian on Jan-29-2004 21:01:

Re: New Internet Explorer Security Hole

quote:
Originally posted by loconet
After the constant discoveries of holes and Microsoft's refusal to admit there are holes in IE, I ask: Why do people keep using Internet Explorer? I don't get it.


as someone still on IE I'll try explaining

Basically, i know fuck all about alternative browsers, whether every site will load with them, are they free, are they worth switching to etc

someone help me


Posted by ShadoWolf on Jan-30-2004 01:14:

isn't IE the fastest browser since it's integrated into XP?


Posted by Lira on Jan-30-2004 01:43:

quote:
Originally posted by ShadoWolf
isn't IE the fastest browser since it's integrated into XP?

I use win 98 anyway


Posted by Tranc3 on Jan-30-2004 01:53:

quote:
Originally posted by ShadoWolf
isn't IE the fastest browser since it's integrated into XP?


Not all of us use XP


Posted by loconet on Jan-30-2004 02:07:

Re: Re: New Internet Explorer Security Hole

quote:
Originally posted by Ian^
as someone still on IE I'll try explaining

Basically, i know fuck all about alternative browsers, whether every site will load with them, are they free, are they worth switching to etc

someone help me


try out this one:

http://www.mozilla.org


Why use this instead of IE? check this out:

http://www.xulplanet.com/ndeakin/arts/reasons.html


Posted by arctic on Jan-30-2004 06:36:

quote:
Originally posted by ShadoWolf
isn't IE the fastest browser since it's integrated into XP?


That has absolutley nothing to do with it.

Ian, go to mozilla.org and download Mozilla Firebird. The regular Mozilla is bloated with other stuff that you don't need, firebird is your best bet.


Posted by Ian on Jan-30-2004 12:21:

quote:
Originally posted by arctic
That has absolutley nothing to do with it.

Ian, go to mozilla.org and download Mozilla Firebird. The regular Mozilla is bloated with other stuff that you don't need, firebird is your best bet.


ok mate ta, if anything goes wrong, you owe me a diet coke


Posted by arctic on Jan-30-2004 12:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian^
ok mate ta, if anything goes wrong, you owe me a diet coke


I can't affoard a diet coke.

BTW, make sure you get Firebird, it's easy to get the regular Mozilla and not realize it (which is exactly what I did at first). It's also got quite a few decent themes/skins, and it's got hundreds of extentions (IE - Plugins) that really do improve it.


Posted by loconet on Jan-30-2004 13:11:

And as a follow up, here is what Microsoft recommends their customers to do to avoid problems with the spoofed url bugs in IE:


http://support.microsoft.com/defaul...%5Bln%5D;833786

From the article:

"The most effective step that you can take to help protect yourself from malicious hyperlinks is not to click them. Rather, type the URL of your intended destination in the address bar yourself. By manually typing the URL in the address bar, you can verify the information that Internet Explorer uses to access the destination Web site. To do so, type the URL in the Address bar, and then press ENTER. "


Ohhh, so that's the problem! Links!!, We should be typing them manually, we shouldn't be clicking them ! I knew there was something I was doing wrong, Duh!, stupid me.


How can someone write this crap?


Posted by loca on Jan-30-2004 13:36:

quote:
Originally posted by arctic
That has absolutley nothing to do with it.

Ian, go to mozilla.org and download Mozilla Firebird. The regular Mozilla is bloated with other stuff that you don't need, firebird is your best bet.


Well although the regular mozilla might be bloated, there's always custom install
It's true there are a few things that you may not need but i have to say i prefer mozilla to firebird, although i do have both browsers on here

Either ways, so long as it's not IE, it's all good


Posted by loca on Jan-30-2004 13:41:

quote:
Originally posted by loconet
And as a follow up, here is what Microsoft recommends their customers to do to avoid problems with the spoofed url bugs in IE:


http://support.microsoft.com/defaul...%5Bln%5D;833786

From the article:

"The most effective step that you can take to help protect yourself from malicious hyperlinks is not to click them. Rather, type the URL of your intended destination in the address bar yourself. By manually typing the URL in the address bar, you can verify the information that Internet Explorer uses to access the destination Web site. To do so, type the URL in the Address bar, and then press ENTER. "



That's possibly the most hilarious piece of crap i've read coming from microsoft so far. I sincerely hope this is some sort of early (very early) april fool's joke or something
Who the fuck is going to type a link?! Yeah... most users aren't going to read that, and if they do (which i doubt) they probably wouldn't do it anyways.


Posted by ShadoWolf on Jan-30-2004 21:49:

I downloaded Mozilla Firebird today. Overall, I'm impressed. Only two issues:

-IE loads 1 second quicker. But once you have the program open, Firebird is much faster than IE

-I hate having to readjust the font size

-I want all windows to open as tabs


Thanks for the tip!


Posted by Keown on Jan-30-2004 23:27:

Ok I decided to take you guys advice and try Mozilla, although IE has neva bothered me! BTW is there any way to get rid of IE if you are using XP?
Cheers!


Posted by loca on Jan-31-2004 00:26:

Not that i know of

I tried getting rid of it on 2k but its impossible. Best thing you can do is just remove all the shortcuts to it and only use the cmd line if you should have to bring it up...

quote:
-I want all windows to open as tabs


Well as far as i know, for tabs, you can download the mouse gestures plugin which will open links as tabs when you move your mouse upwards while clicking on the link.

You can get those here

*edit*

i forgot, if you don't want to download the gestures, which i recommend you do anyways because it's pretty useful, you can always right click the link and choose "open as tab"


Posted by Shudder on Jan-31-2004 01:00:

the only reason i decided tho use mozilla firebird was just because my IE was dumb and decided to stop working on me. i never liked it anyway to begin with. too many pop ups.


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