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French immorality

My last visits to France lately in 2003, 02 and 01 I am astounished by the lake of morals of the people. The amount of anti religion in France is amazing. Just this last year I saw 2 peoples having intercours in a alley in broad veiw and daylight of passers by. Also in Parisian city parks homosexuals regulalry have sex in the day in public veiw.

I was wondering if people think this is due to lack of religion, or are the Franch a more advanced peoples or anything because I don't know what will change these peoples.

And in other western euro countries sex is displayed regularly on tv and in sweden peoples are having intercourse wit animals.

So how long did it take you to learn that France was f*cked up to begein with?


Standard French Army Rations

Q: Why was Jesus not born in France?
A: Because they couldn�t find three wise men or a virgin.

More facts about France here

[[[smoke]]]

More news from France, somewhat disturbing:

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PARIS, 31 January 2004 (AP) � The Paris suburb of Evry, which has one of France�s largest Muslim populations, has decided to install video screens to enable the local faithful to watch some 3,300 sheep being slaughtered for Eid this year. The televised ritual slaughter which will take place in a large mobile abattoir is the idea of a local meat wholesaler. �If the idea succeeds this year then it�s likely to become a permanent fixture of Eids in future,� a local municipal spokesman said. Meanwhile, at Le Mans, west of Paris, the local authorities have decided to build a �hard� structure in which the sheep belonging to local Muslims can be killed. �If this works out,� says an official for the prefecture which is overseeing the development, �then it�s an idea that will probably be tried elsewhere in France.� The new approach to the slaughter of the Eid sheep comes after years of difficulties for French Muslims who, having bought a sheep for Eid, thought it was their right to see them killed in a local slaughterhouse. That, however, contravened strict governmental regulations on security and hygiene. Additionally, there were relatively few slaughterhouses available for the killing of the sheep according to Halal practice. However, with the number of sheep to be killed this year rising to 110,000, the government decided it was time to introduce new methods by which they might be slaughtered under government sanitary regulations but also religiously-authorized conditions. The authorities have notified Muslim representatives, in particular the new official French Council for the Muslim Faith, of the changes. But they will wait to see the response before planning any future Eid-related projects.

it's part of the religion, what can't you understand about that? is it wrong for muslims to sacrifice sheep? i used to think that America was the most tolerant country on the face of the earth. i've learned that i was extreeeeeemely wrong.

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Originally posted by smokeape So how long did it take you to learn that France was f*cked up to begein with? Standard French Army Rations Q: Why was Jesus not born in France? A: Because they couldn�t find three wise men or a virgin. More facts about France here [[[smoke]]]

are you saying mary was a virgin?

Re: French immorality

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Originally posted by LouisLaBelle and in sweden peoples are having intercourse wit animals.

You know, that is not a very widely accepted behaviour in Sweden. Just because you heard on the news that some swedish guy fucked a goat or something like that it doesn't mean very many swedes do that sort of thing.

But why the hell do you have that french flag as your avatar when you hate them so much?

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Originally posted by LouisLaBelle And in other western euro countries sex is displayed regularly on tv and in sweden peoples are having intercourse wit animals.

WTF is wrong with sex on TV!?

and you seem not to generalize, everyone sure has sex with animals in sweden (in case you didn't know, i'm sure that very few more (if more?) than in your contry does that.)

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Originally posted by St_Andrew WTF is wrong with sex on TV!?

I don't know.. but Ameircans get very upset about it, especially when they get a glimpse of it in the superbowl:

https://webspace.utexas.edu/mgm55/

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I was wondering if people think this is due to lack of religion, or are the Franch a more advanced peoples or anything because I don't know what will change these peoples.

Religion is immoral, what you're seeing is the exact antithesis to neocon attitudes. the French are a more advanced people they don't have dark age ideals

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Originally posted by tathi Religion is immoral, what you're seeing is the exact antithesis to neocon attitudes. the French are a more advanced people they don't have dark age ideals

I would largely agree with that statement, however what I find disturbing is that the anti-religion movement is trampling on other peoples right of beleif and practice, i.e. the French PM's move to ban headscarfs.....which in my opinion is somewhat extereme.

from my understanding of the situation its a regulation stating that you cannot wear a religious object over a certain size, in public schools no matter what the religion?

Although i think the headscarfs are inane, i agree with you that its extreme and could be construed as discrimination against Islam (considering most other religious objects are small, except for maybe Hindu turbans ?)

but i'm a fundamental atheist and see this as progress

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Originally posted by tathi from my understanding of the situation its a regulation stating that you cannot wear a religious object over a certain size, in public schools no matter what the religion? Although i think the headscarfs are inane, i agree with you that its extreme and could be construed as discrimination against Islam (considering most other religious objects are small, except for maybe Hindu turbans ?)

In terms of Islam and Hinduism, you may be able to say that the banning of such things goes beyond religious aspects but into cultural ones as well all because religion and culture are heavily intertwined in places like India and Islamic countries.

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but i'm a fundamental atheist and see this as progress

As am I .....I would have to agree with you but I think Chirac is going about this all wrong. They're are other methods of "de-programming" of people that are not as traumatic and more subtle.

whats wrong with religion? some people want structure in their lives. and religion gives that to them. and there is a god-given consious we all have which is "right/wrong", which we acquired after adam & eve ate the fruit that the serpant tempted them into eating. thereby, their eyes were opened, and they knew good & evil just like god. eyes opened, as in, they saw themselves naked, but before, it was like natural, and beautiful, b/c is was perfect and godly. now, we are cursed by sin. along with physical pain, and mental. wars, and conflicts.

hypothesis is, hardship is and was caused by the sin of our first ancestors. adam and eve.

Well there have been protests in Australia about the banning of headscarfs in France aswell, and i know of people who have worn headscarfs for cultural reasons not religious reasons

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Heinz whats wrong with religion? some people want structure in their lives. and religion gives that to them. and there is a god-given consious we all have which is "right/wrong", which we acquired after adam & eve ate the fruit that the serpant tempted them into eating. thereby, their eyes were opened, and they knew good & evil just like god. eyes opened, as in, they saw themselves naked, but before, it was like natural, and beautiful, b/c is was perfect and godly. now, we are cursed by sin. along with physical pain, and mental. wars, and conflicts. hypothesis is, hardship is and was caused by the sin of our first ancestors. adam and eve.

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Originally posted by Heinz whats wrong with religion? some people want structure in their lives. and religion gives that to them. and there is a god-given consious we all have which is "right/wrong", which we acquired after adam & eve ate the fruit that the serpant tempted them into eating. thereby, their eyes were opened, and they knew good & evil just like god. eyes opened, as in, they saw themselves naked, but before, it was like natural, and beautiful, b/c is was perfect and godly. now, we are cursed by sin. along with physical pain, and mental. wars, and conflicts. hypothesis is, hardship is and was caused by the sin of our first ancestors. adam and eve.

There is a philosophical angle to this one, that I have yet to hear a satisfying answer to: Why can sin be inherited from ones ancestors - unless you see offspring as physical parts of their parents which have gained physical, yet not spiritual, autonomy? And if God really allows for sin to be inherited (thus, meaning we are all doomed unless he grants us mercy), why not just wipe out the entire human race in one go? After all, God does not need us as that would contradict him being omnipotent.

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Originally posted by Heinz there is a god-given consious we all have which is "right/wrong", which we acquired after adam & eve ate the fruit that the serpant tempted them into eating. thereby, their eyes were opened, and they knew good & evil just like god. eyes opened, as in, they saw themselves naked, but before, it was like natural, and beautiful, b/c is was perfect and godly. now, we are cursed by sin. along with physical pain, and mental. wars, and conflicts. hypothesis is, hardship is and was caused by the sin of our first ancestors. adam and eve.

Ugh. Two words: Provide evidence. As Carl Sagan said, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

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Originally posted by trancaholic There is a philosophical angle to this one, that I have yet to hear a satisfying answer to: Why can sin be inherited from ones ancestors - unless you see offspring as physical parts of their parents which have gained physical, yet not spiritual, autonomy? And if God really allows for sin to be inherited (thus, meaning we are all doomed unless he grants us mercy), why not just wipe out the entire human race in one go? After all, God does not need us as that would contradict him being omnipotent.

God has a major insecurity complex, he needs people to worship him to feel important

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 But why the hell do you have that french flag as your avatar when you hate them so much?

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Originally posted by smokeape Q: Why was Jesus not born in France? A: Because they couldn�t find three wise men or a virgin.

ya des cons partout.... meme sur TA

I think that its very inmoral to be doing sexual acts in front of everyone else.... while here in the US, if you sit with your girlfriend kissing or w/e, either @ school, the mall etc etc.. you will hear "GET A ROOM" a thousand times, and if a cop sees you, they would say " HEY HEY HEY, STOP THAT. NOT ALLOWED". Two extremes eh?

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Originally posted by Trancemaster2k ya des cons partout.... meme sur TA

j'te le fait pas dire

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Originally posted by benjamin j'te le fait pas dire

no idea what you guys are saying, but I love alizee

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Originally posted by tathi God has a major insecurity complex, he needs people to worship him to feel important

Guess I still have yet to hear a satisfying answer.

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Originally posted by trancaholic Guess I still have yet to hear a satisfying answer.

God created us as a science experiment to see how long it would take us to figure out that there is no God.

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