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WHy hasnt hard dance and godskitchen caought on in canada

I posted this thought once on tribe and i got the usual load of bollacks for responses. The most common one was that torontians have more of refined taste then many other countries or something along those lines. However, i would beg to differ based on my clubbing expierence in the UK.
Thus let me put it too you then why has it not caought on?

Also let me ask this as well
Why is it that Godskitchen and gatecrasher have events in Australia new zealand and in hungrey even but not in canada?

Someone once told me that it would not sell here that the toronto market is to developed for it.
But i would think that with the usual line up for godskitchen that being armin, PVD fergie and mistress barabara in one night they would sell out in 5 seconds.
Also even the yanks have godskitchen now why is canada so far behind.
Considering how busy many places are with just one of the aforementioned djs

right well answer me then

swilly

Why? Because 90% of the major Toronto DJ bookings are controlled by a few individuals.

itikia

ummmm yea OK

why would u even care to see the name "godskitchen" at a party

what difference would that make to you?

?

like really? who gives a shit! its only a NAME...

the DJS (pvd, avb, whomever else) u mentioned sell out clubs here regardless of there being some uk superclub name behind it or not

why would a club like guv be interested in a partnership with another company when they can clearly draw enough people by themselves to their own events...

that and i just dont think people here would really care for something like that! and to be honest, why would they?

would be interesting to ask some of the local promoters this question .. i think that's prolly the best start

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Originally posted by Special K ummmm yea OK why would u even care to see the name "godskitchen" at a party what difference would that make to you? ? like really? who gives a shit! its only a NAME... the DJS (pvd, avb, whomever else) u mentioned sell out clubs here regardless of there being some uk superclub name behind it or not that and i just dont think people here would really care for something like that! and to be honest, why would they?

I think one reason why they would care is that i yet to see any promoters in canada book 5 quality djs in one night. Only at cream have i ever seen tiesto open for PVD or see mistress barabara followed fergies who then opens for armin and this is then finished with ferry. Honestly it is a quality experience hearing that much of amazing tunes in one night. Also the UK clubs put alot of emphasis on decorations for godskitchen the whole ceiling was filled with crazy ballons of submarines and vikings and those angels it was brilliant.

Also i think any intelligent promoter would team up with them. It would be like asking hmmm well why would franks car company want to team up with Audi or BMW when they can already produce thier own car and make some money. WHY ???? WHY?????
because they have immense amounts of capital to throw around and can probably bring over many more djs for less money due to thier constant demand. Economies of scale should be taken advantage of i would think.
However, i could be wrong but if they do it in other bussiness sectors why not this one?
swilly

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Originally posted by Special K something like that! and to be honest, why would they?

BECAUSE THEY ARE FUNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

k i think i misunderstood your post

i thought u were going on about club nights not these big massive arena parties which is what u seem to be speaking of

ANYWHO

gk were @ meow a few summers ago for a night there with agnelli and nelson...

and i remember slinky + gc having nights @ turbo/guv

Gatecrasher also threw an event not too long ago with Syrous and brought in Matt Hardwick, Robbie Nelson (of Agnelli & Nelson), Max Graham, and DJ Dan.. not to mention all the dnb DJ's too ..

the days of the BLC

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Originally posted by Special K k i think i misunderstood your post i thought u were going on about club nights not these big massive arena parties which is what u seem to be speaking of ANYWHO gk were @ meow a few summers ago for a night there with agnelli and nelson... and i remember slinky + gc having nights @ turbo/guv

slinky really I used to love going to that i didint know they had them here. How long ago was that?
oh well perhaps it will start again eh maybe it was just a bad econ for awhile
swilly

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Originally posted by dEsidEL Gatecrasher also threw an event not too long ago with Syrous and brought in Matt Hardwick, Robbie Nelson (of Agnelli & Nelson), Max Graham, and DJ Dan.. not to mention all the dnb DJ's too .. the days of the BLC

ya i remember that but honestly it did not have the GC feel to it other than the lion and matt
hardwick
that and they didint bring thier usual line up bringing over a sheffield local would be like guv going to the UK for a night and then bringing along tim patrick he is good but not representative of the quality usually assoicated with it.

however

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Originally posted by swilly slinky really I used to love going to that i didint know they had them here. How long ago was that?

two summers ago (guy ornadel and one or two of their residents)

and i remember one of their residents playing @ some uptown rave on yonge st.

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Originally posted by dEsidEL Your dog was run over today because of capitalism.

and this is EXACTLY why.

Ummm, anyone remember a party that had Anne Savage, Gabriel & Dresden, Infected Mushroom and Rank 1?

why isnt hard dance big in TO?
TO is too classy to dance that hard.
the guv shuffle wont suffice, and the DJ will think they are doing bad.
I would say Hard Dance is big in Calgary. compared to the biggest events, Hard Dance draws just as many people(and im looking forward to Farley and BK in 2 weeks hell yea)

Crasher did a tour, they came to Calgary twice, Slinky came 3 times.
heres what they did.
bring a laser(yea, the stealth was worth it) and the S/lion.
thats it.
lineups were the same as always, 1 maybe 2 djs
rob tissera/dave lee, Fergie/Tim Lyall, Guy Ornadel, Max Graham/Oakie, Sandra Collins
for the cost of the name, the revenue wasnt there...its teh same had it been a regular party.

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Originally posted by j_spot why isnt hard dance big in TO? TO is too classy to dance that hard. the guv shuffle wont suffice, and the DJ will think they are doing bad. I would say Hard Dance is big in Calgary. compared to the biggest events, Hard Dance draws just as many people(and im looking forward to Farley and BK in 2 weeks hell yea) Crasher did a tour, they came to Calgary twice, Slinky came 3 times. heres what they did. bring a laser(yea, the stealth was worth it) and the S/lion. thats it. lineups were the same as always, 1 maybe 2 djs rob tissera/dave lee, Fergie/Tim Lyall, Guy Ornadel, Max Graham/Oakie, Sandra Collins for the cost of the name, the revenue wasnt there...its teh same had it been a regular party.

ya i saw that event i would love to go shit

but you have to admit it would be nice to get fergie and rob tissera in toronto a little more frequently.
say maybe once every 2 months or 2 weeks hehehhe
swilly

The reason you see clubs like Gatecrasher booking five "quality" (and when you say quality i think you mean internationally popular) dj's in one night is because they can afford it. For a club like The Guvernment to cram that many expensive dj's for one night wouldnt make sense when night after night they sell to (and over) capacity. The Guv does do a great job for Ultra Spin and Labour of Love events to bring in PLENTY of talent for one evening i must say.

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Originally posted by TECHno addict . The Guv does do a great job for Ultra Spin and Labour of Love events to bring in PLENTY of talent for one evening i must say.

speak for yourself!!!!

I still would like to see line ups like they got over there, in canada. But.... cest la vie
also twice a year is weak if you ask me
swilly

random thought: i could, in theory, go to a big uk festival this summer like gkgg, and i've done it several times before. BUT it doesn't interest me now at all. i'd rather hear a longer set from one or two djs that i really like, than a one to two hour set from 20 djs and run around from tent to tent. and i don't like hard dance

i think that i am just getting old and boring. i'll go back to my rocking chair and knitting now.

AND back to your discussion!

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Originally posted by swilly speak for yourself!!!! I still would like to see line ups like they got over there, in canada. But.... cest la vie also twice a year is weak if you ask me swilly

You can always dream.

yeah!


what u guys bitchin about


ultra spin events are awesome.

we're never gonna see the connected raves like back in the day.. but ultra spin events are good

system has been consistent with new international dj's

and now boa's joined the club


fuck godskitchen & cream... we aint no brits and dont want any part of that shit..


toronto has already got a good repuation for itself and dj's love coming to play here..

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Originally posted by Muff2K we're never gonna see the connected raves like back in the day

haha!
connected V7
Calgary alberta
5 headliners

last year was kinda a bust, we got 2 feet of snow overnight, and no headliners made it.

I think its gonan actually be connected (in the literal sense) this year again.

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Originally posted by Muff2K fuck godskitchen & cream... we aint no brits and dont want any part of that shit.. toronto has already got a good repuation for itself and dj's love coming to play here..

Hmmm certainly not the most worldly of views I have ever heard. But an opinion nonetheless

swilly

Slinky and Gatecrasher have been here before? Dammit. I tell you.. one day.. if I go to Europe.. I need to hit up those club nights... on my way to Amsterdam.. which would be on my way to Ibiza. kthx.

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Originally posted by swilly Hmmm certainly not the most worldly of views I have ever heard. But an opinion nonetheless swilly

i just dont see the point in bitching about things that will never happen.


toronto will never be like amsterdam or london or montreal even

get over it

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Originally posted by itikia Why? Because 90% of the major Toronto DJ bookings are controlled by a few individuals.

Right on target with that statement.

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