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Posted by Fundamental on Feb-04-2004 13:39:

Lightbulb Ambia - Nightvision

Hello.

After a bit of a break I'm finally back with my 2nd attempt at 'music'. I would be grateful if you could take a listen and leave me a comment. Thanks!

Ambia - Nightvision
(9:08, 12.5MB, 192k/s)
(right click - save)

Thanks to dbl (again) for the webspace.


Posted by John on Feb-04-2004 14:21:

stunning for a second track i like it
tho i think the kick could be stronger.
track as a whole seems to be lacking some low frequencies on my stereo. and you could have made the percussion a little bit more interesting, but you did really well! spent more time on producing man, at least never have a blank month
keep it up!

john


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Feb-04-2004 14:25:

Note:
Make sure you right click & save as, otherwise you'll get a load of garbage in Swedish


Posted by Fundamental on Feb-04-2004 14:34:

Thanks for the comments John.

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Note:
Make sure you right click & save as, otherwise you'll get a load of garbage in Swedish


Oops! Post edited to remind people.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Feb-04-2004 14:35:

Right, let's see what we have here then...

Argh, that random fx in the intro annoys me greatly. Not only does it remind me of Right of Way but it also reminds me of them cheesy eighties shows where the robots and computers ALWAYS made such noise. I hate it! And it goes on for the ENTIRE tune... argh!

Now, on to the next thing.
I notice you have the same problem I used to have - hihats overpowering the kick and the bass. Some of the closed hats are so loud they'd kill my ears in a club. On the other hand you don't have nearly enough percs going on here which makes the tune drag. There's also some muddyness in the synths mostly because it seems pretty much everything in this has been done with a saw waveform...

I also think this tune is way too long for what it is, esp. when there is no distinct lead or a "huge" break.

There are good points too. The melodies are nice and the piano is a very nice touch to the otherwise samey soundscape. I think it could had been used some more.

I definitely like it more than what the comments above may tell you.


Posted by Fundamental on Feb-04-2004 14:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Right, let's see what we have here then...

Argh, that random fx in the intro annoys me greatly.


Oh dear. I have a feeling I'm gonna get slated pretty bad for this.

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
There's also some muddyness in the synths mostly because it seems pretty much everything in this has been done with a saw waveform...


So THAT'S why I had that 'muddyness'. I really had no idea how to make it sound better, I just EQ'd and whatnot.

Thanks for the comments Nik. Much appreciated.


Posted by DJ-Kreing^^ on Feb-04-2004 16:11:

Hya!
Pretty nice tune you got there, I really liked the bass, it reminds me abit of the bass Yahel used in Voyage, which is a really good because its one of my favorite trance tunes. ��
The melodies are really cool as well, loved the piano parts! although when the main lead comes in it sounds a bit distorted.
One of the tunes weakest points must be the percussion, the samples you used sound a bit flat and high, maybe try adding some more FX to them compressing your percussion can always help. More drum instruments would also make the tune more flowing. try adding some more drum samples and giving it all some nice effects that will make it sound fatter and more noticeable.

Overall great job , keep those tunes coming!


Posted by djHollen on Feb-05-2004 02:55:

Wink

Hey Fundamental,

I just finished listening to your new track. I really having nothing new to add that Mr. Mystery hasn't already stated. I think he's right about the hihats. Also, at first I didnt mind the random FX he pointed out, but after a while I just got sick of hearing them. To be honest, to have them running through the entire song doesn't really add anything more to the song. So I would say take them out - not entirely if you like them, but dont run them the lenght of the song. I think if you just changed the song structure around a bit, maybe make more of a breakdown-to-build up it wont get so repetative. Because without something sort of like that, the piano kind of seems a little out of place when you introduced it (because everything sounds great together towards the end). Build some anticipation so I dont get bored! If you do change this up a bit let us know. I would be intriuged to hear how this progresses.
Good Luck!


Posted by dbl on Feb-05-2004 22:40:

for being the second track it sounds great man
god.. can't even stand to think about how my second track sounded.. hahahaha

much better bass in this one.. as i have already said... the kick is too low.. kinda get's drowned in the percussions...
or maybe just lower the percussions.. hehe

like mystery said, the lead is kinda muddy... you could always try and put another synth over it... kinda hard to hear it too.. need's to be higher

really like the piano
could be some more of it actually

and for next track maybe have a nice break
not that you really need one.. but for a track with this lenght it could be nice

good luck with your next track.. hehe



and yeah... the track really really suck's.. my 6 year old little sister can make much better track's then you can.. looooser

hehe.. kidding... or am i... hmmm


Posted by TrAnCeAkI on Feb-05-2004 22:58:

you know what i really really like it joe!! the only thing is that it runs so long and its the same thing over and over for like 9 min!! thats all great work though!!!


Posted by Fundamental on Feb-06-2004 00:05:

Kreing: Cheers for the technical pointers. Glad you found something you enjoyed about it. Will try and work on my percussion more for my next tune.

Hollen: Thanks for listening and posting your comments. If you are interested in how this track could progress, maybe you should consider doing a remix. I still haven't heard stuff from you yet!

Dantheman: Cheers mate, I'm sure your second track sounded fine. Glad you liked the piano bits. And once again thanks for your technical help (and your lovely lovely webspace. yum). Oh, and can you ask your sister if she wants to do a collab then?

Eleni: Thanks for taking the time to listen and post your comments! I will do the same for you in 6 months.


Posted by dbl on Feb-06-2004 00:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Fundamental
Dantheman: Cheers mate, I'm sure your second track sounded fine. Glad you liked the piano bits. And once again thanks for your technical help (and your lovely lovely webspace. yum). Oh, and can you ask your sister if she wants to do a collab then?


hahahaha... i will do that for you.. haha


Posted by Bren-F on Feb-06-2004 04:39:

All right mate

My comments are similar to those of above

considering this is only your second tune its f*cking amazing.
it's realy progressed from the demos U sent me. The intro is superb love the FX (evem the robot ones )

However i would suggest the following:

Theres too much reverb in this track, try to cut down on using it as it is muddying up the track. Try to get a good mastering setup aswell to clean the overall sound up.

The percussion needs fixing. A better kick is needed (speak to me ) the off beat hihat and the clap sound ok but the closed hat sounds too simplistic and ruins the sound, try to experimnt with better perc.

make the lead synths louder & add more variation

The structure is really good tho

Well done mate, keep producing you have potential to bee good

['John' w00t @ Spongebob ]


Posted by tranzMental on Feb-06-2004 05:33:

I love those beginning SFX. I guess cuz I'm an 80's kid, and I love those sounds. Nice opening pads, great SFX, the bassline is good, but the kicks need more power.

Nik's right about those open hats being a bit too loud. They can kill your ears if they are on big speakers.

Wow, did you say this is your second attempt. Not bad man. Good synths, cool ideas. Keep it up.


Posted by DRM on Feb-07-2004 00:03:

Dog Running

ur def improving mate this is very good. things i would improve is the bass and maybe make the lead a little fuller. and the melody aint that great but thats something u will improve on as time goes by

good work


Posted by Fundamental on Feb-07-2004 11:22:

Bren: Cheers for the comments mate, glad you liked the intro. Will talk to you as soon as I can, and you can tell me what you mean my mastering setup and stuff...

Mental: Heh, glad you found something you liked about the track. I really need to work out how do better percussion though - it's obviously not my forte at the moment. I'm working on my 3rd tune already so hopefully I can make them a bit better for that. Thanks for your comments.

Mike: Thanks for taking the time to listen mate. I'm glad you think I am heading in the right direction. Hopefully you will like the melody of my next tune a bit more. Time will tell...


Posted by Massive84 on Feb-07-2004 13:22:

stunning baseline..base it self not bad, lacks energy..

nice percussion, though nik is right, it's not balanced.

i like those kinda wind effects, gives a cool atmosphere..

kick needs energy.

melody not my kinda type.

good ideas in here..and i think your sound is very cool.


Posted by Sean Walsh on Feb-07-2004 23:23:

As Mr. Mystery said, the percussions overpower the kick quite a bit, which can be remedied by getting a way better kick. If you want some good samples let me know. I also agree that it lacks a fullness in the percussion department, a few more panned layers would be very nice. I like the melodies, but as with the kick I feel as though the lead just doesn't punch out in the mix as well as it should. Work on those details and you have a nice track!


Posted by Syeker on Feb-08-2004 00:27:

I liked this tune i felt it was pretty original, something new and fresh to the forum. The bass is great but you gave too much attettion to the hats leaving them like a 80% of the song. Like the lead sounds simple but with some nrg on it. Great work i'd love to see another track from you.


Posted by Fundamental on Feb-08-2004 19:36:

Bit of an update.

Syeker: Thanks for that! I'm glad you think the tune is pretty original. And if you wanna hear another song from me you'll just need to wait for a bit coz I've started making my 3rd tune.

Sean: Thanks for the pointers, Sean. To be honest I don't think percussion will ever be my strong point.

Massive: Cheers for taking the time to listen and post comments mate, very much appreciated. Didn't really know I had my own sound, but oh well.


Posted by Sean Walsh on Feb-08-2004 19:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Fundamental
Sean: Thanks for the pointers, Sean. To be honest I don't think percussion will ever be my strong point.


Bah, percussions aren't that difficult. With some synth work and pads and the like, the expression "less is more" is often true. I find with percussions, "more is more" is often far more accurate =P


Posted by ABSYNTH on Feb-09-2004 17:14:

Link not working Will have a listen when it fixed


Posted by dbl on Feb-09-2004 17:33:

quote:
Originally posted by ABSYNTH
Link not working Will have a listen when it fixed


it should work just fine


Posted by Luke Terry on Feb-09-2004 23:10:

Cool

cool, ill post later when i can be arsed, maybe in 2005


Posted by TrAnCeAkI on Feb-10-2004 02:57:

lol 2005


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