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Posted by Shakka on Feb-04-2004 14:24:

Screw the UN

Yeah, here's a $1.2 billion loan...INTEREST FREE! Yet another reason for incremental deficits. We're just the charity country with unlimited funds! HA!

U.N. disappointed that loan isn't interest free

quote:
White House seeks to loan U.N. funds for renovations


By Betsy Pisik and David R. Sands
THE WASHINGTON TIMES



The Bush administration's new budget includes a $1.2 billion, 30-year loan to renovate the aging United Nations headquarters and build a new annex, although U.N. officials expressed disappointment that Washington will charge interest on the loan.
The loan was part of a $31.5 billion foreign-operations budget request released Monday that also includes major new funding for the fight against AIDS and a revamped U.S. foreign-aid program targeting poor countries that implement political and social reforms.
State Department spokesman Richard Boucher said yesterday the loan request, contained in the foreign-operations account of President Bush's proposed fiscal 2005 budget, was a "practical way to move forward" with U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan's plan to renovate and modernize the U.N. headquarters.
The loan to fund the U.N. Capital Master Plan still must win approval by Congress and the U.N. General Assembly. The world body must agree to accept the 5.54 percent interest rate. Interest and principal is to be paid off by all member states.
The loan announcement came on a day when Mr. Annan was in Washington for meetings with Mr. Bush and other senior administration leaders on the troubled political transition in Iraq.
Catherine Bertini, the U.N. undersecretary-general for administration and management, who accompanied Mr. Annan on his Washington trip, called the loan provision "great."
"It's exactly what we wanted, but we were hoping it would be interest-free," she said.
If approved, Washington will pay out $400 million a year for three years, and the organization will have 30 years to pay it back, plus interest. The total bill, with interest, will be close to $2.5 billion.
As part of its assessed contribution to the U.N. budget, the United States will supply 22 percent of that repayment figure � $265 million on the principal alone.
Diplomats said yesterday they did not know enough about the loan to comment, but several were dismayed that Washington would charge interest.
One European envoy noted that the Swiss government donated the building and most of the operating costs for U.N. operations in Geneva.
The highly recognizable U.N. Secretariat building, the best-known example of the International architectural style, is dangerously outdated and in disrepair.
The 39-story, green-glass rectangle leaks heat in winter and air-conditioning in summer, is riddled with asbestos and lacks a sprinkler system.
A 2002 report from the U.S. General Accounting Office (GAO) affirmed the need for a speedy interior renovation, noting that each year's delay would add millions to the project's cost.
The GAO also backed the U.N. suggestion of a second office tower, which would house U.N. staff during the three-year renovation, and then consolidate far-flung agencies, programs and offices now renting space. The city of New York has made available a nearby asphalt playground for the proposed tower, although the community is reluctant to see it developed.
State Department officials, briefing reporters on background yesterday, said Mr. Bush's proposed foreign-operations budget cuts back on some traditional bilateral aid programs to fulfill the president's funding promises for AIDS and for the new Millennium Challenge Account, a program to target development assistance to countries that embrace economic and political reforms.
c Betsy Pisik reported from New York.


Posted by trancaholic on Feb-04-2004 15:17:

Btw. have the US paid its debt to the UN? I seem to recall a lot of bad press about that some years ago.


Posted by Yoepus on Feb-04-2004 15:21:

I wish the US wouldn't have paid for the UN renovation.

I would of loved to have see the UN in an old outdated building that is falling apart - the symbolism would have great


Posted by trancaholic on Feb-04-2004 15:52:

When you don't like the UN, I would have to ask: What should replace it? US pre-emptive strikes and crusader mentality?


Posted by Shakka on Feb-04-2004 16:35:

quote:
Originally posted by trancaholic
When you don't like the UN, I would have to ask: What should replace it? US pre-emptive strikes and crusader mentality?


Bring back the League of Nations!


Posted by rizo on Feb-04-2004 16:41:

Lets see 1.2 billion or 160+ billion... I think I'd rather have the UN do Iraq than us.


Posted by Shakka on Feb-04-2004 16:57:

Huh?

I honestly don't know how they can spend $1.2 billion to build a new building. Must be something else. I mean when you look at the average major league baseball park costing only $250-$350 million. Must be all of the metal detectors and irradiation equipment!


Posted by Yoepus on Feb-04-2004 17:05:

quote:
Originally posted by rizen
Lets see 1.2 billion or 160+ billion... I think I'd rather have the UN do Iraq than us.



hehe, you don't think the US would be paying the UN $160 billion then instead of themselves for Iraq?


Posted by rizo on Feb-04-2004 17:07:

They must be getting some $5k Toto Neorest toilets and other cool Japanese influnced stuff

All I'm saying it's cheaper to have the UN around to do work together like in the first Iraqi war, than on our own like the current war.


Posted by rizo on Feb-04-2004 17:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
hehe, you don't think the US would be paying the UN $160 billion then instead of themselves for Iraq?
I don't think it would be as much, and holyburton executives is not the US


Posted by occrider on Feb-04-2004 18:28:

5.5%??? What a bunch of whiny cry babies! That's what my perkins student loan is at. Why don't they try paying what some of my credit card apr's are at??


Posted by Yoepus on Feb-04-2004 19:20:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider Why don't they try paying what some of my credit card apr's are at??


What, 0% for the next 6 months?


Posted by Shakka on Feb-04-2004 19:38:

Just mail the UN some convenience checks to transfer their balance to a new Capital One card. They'll only be on the hook for 21.99% and any annual fees.


Posted by DR86 on Feb-04-2004 21:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
Just mail the UN some convenience checks to transfer their balance to a new Capital One card. They'll only be on the hook for 21.99% and any annual fees.


or get a Visa Checkcard..."It'll get you in, out, and on with life"


Posted by LiquidX on Feb-04-2004 21:49:

I got a 0% APR for 12 months heh, and I'll then switch to another 0%, and going, and going, and going lol..


Posted by occrider on Feb-04-2004 22:12:

quote:
Originally posted by LiquidX
I got a 0% APR for 12 months heh, and I'll then switch to another 0%, and going, and going, and going lol..


Yea except that negatively affects your credit rating


Posted by Yoepus on Feb-04-2004 22:38:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
Yea except that negatively affects your credit rating


I wonder what the UN's credit rating is, afterall looks like they are chasing the 0% APRs


Posted by LiquidX on Feb-04-2004 22:39:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
Yea except that negatively affects your credit rating


- Mmm my dad has been doing it for over 2 years now, and he has such a perfect credit..


Posted by rizo on Feb-04-2004 23:18:

quote:
Originally posted by DR86
or get a Visa Checkcard..."It'll get you in, out, and on with life"
Agree. Who wants to be in debt anyway... oh


Posted by imokruok on Feb-05-2004 02:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
What, 0% for the next 6 months?


Sure! 0% for the next 6 months, then 16.9% for the next 29.5 years!


Posted by Shakka on Feb-05-2004 03:04:

quote:
Originally posted by rizen
Agree. Who wants to be in debt anyway... oh


I know someone who believes that if you die in debt, you win. Love it.


Posted by smokeape on Feb-05-2004 03:37:

I think we should move the UN Headquarters to France. Serves em right...

Lol!
[[[smoke]]]



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