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Finally Learn Some Music Theory!

This site is so great I just had to create a new thread... it's parts 1-4 of an 8 part book coming out in the spring on "how music really works." - very simple to follow guides to chord progressions, structure, harmony, melody, theory all FREE on this website..

http://www.completechords.com/Pages..._Full_Index.htm

Looks great mate, added this one to my bookmarks. Thanks for the post!

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want to make sure people read this.. it's definitly worth the time..

Yeah man, I'm slowly getting my way through it.

cheers.

That was a great read! I think I'll have to read it again tho'

Thanks alot man, that is some really usefull info.

Wow, such a great post! Hope this will be helpfull, I have been thinking about attending some musical theory lessons, but if this works...

thanx!

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Originally posted by iLLicit Wow, such a great post! Hope this will be helpfull, I have been thinking about attending some musical theory lessons, but if this works... thanx!

definitly still take lessons - theory classes and piano lessons are the two best things to help you're composing technique.. after that you just need to learn producing.. which can be just as hard

Screw piano lessons.

But yeah, the actual theory classes I've been taking at college are immensely helpful. Even just knowing scales is a huge help.

That link is nice, though...

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Screw piano lessons.

I kid you not, If you're serious about composing any type of music, theory will only give you half of what you need to know, the rest will come from piano lessons.

And what if I learned guitar, mister poopy pants?

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mister poopy pants?

What the fudge? *shakes his head and rolls his eyes* - Guitar is to Rock, & Blues, what Piano is to Electronica, Classical, & Rap

The guy is just trying to make some money...Do you seriously think that composers think about what he wrote when they compose. Give me a break. It reminds me of those studies where researchers find that a certain chemical has anabolic properties and wanna be bodybuilders drink gallons of it, in the hope it's going to help them grow.
Music theory is an important subject and I appreciate all the people that take it to improve their compositional skills, but I want to know an answer to only one question.
How many succesfull hits has the guy that wrote the book produced?

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Originally posted by Design The guy is just trying to make some money...Do you seriously think that composers think about what he wrote when they compose. Give me a break. It reminds me of those studies where researchers find that a certain chemical has anabolic properties and wanna be bodybuilders drink gallons of it, in the hope it's going to help them grow. Music theory is an important subject and I appreciate all the people that take it to improve their compositional skills, but I want to know an answer to only one question. How many succesfull hits has the guy that wrote the book produced?

this is true, but none-the-less it's a good read and he put half the book online for free so quit yer bitchin'

It's a deal. I'll quit my bitchin' and you go buy his book...

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Originally posted by Design It's a deal. I'll quit my bitchin' and you go buy his book...

I havn't read the rest of what's online yet, I'm about 1/4 through the 2nd part. But if the rest of it is as good as what I've already read then I plan on buying it.. (sorry if this wasn't the response you wanted)

Reading through this- I will admit its very interesting, and cant do any harm knowing it. Really though, learning the piano is much more useful. I can belt out great melodies 'on the fly' on my guitar because I just 'know' what works well. After learning hundreds of songs, progressions etc etc.. I can make my own without thinking. Now I plan to learn the keyboard and do the same thing. Theory will help the progression of this alot.
I will note some people are just plain good. TranceNRG69 has no knowledge of piano, theory etc yet his melodies just plain ROCK. This is rare.

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Originally posted by TI2ance Reading through this- I will admit its very interesting, and cant do any harm knowing it. Really though, learning the piano is much more useful. I can belt out great melodies 'on the fly' on my guitar because I just 'know' what works well. After learning hundreds of songs, progressions etc etc.. I can make my own without thinking. Now I plan to learn the keyboard and do the same thing. Theory will help the progression of this alot. I will note some people are just plain good. TranceNRG69 has no knowledge of piano, theory etc yet his melodies just plain ROCK. This is rare.

I would like to hear the music of this no knowledge master.. do you know his website? does he have one?

He is on the forum. Ask him yourself.

Here is a quote from that site which says alot-

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The point is, as a songwriter/composer, when you're trying out your new tunes and chord changes, you need to have at least an awareness in the back of your mind of the musical implications of introducing chromatic notes into a tune.

But we all can tell when somthing 'doesnt fit'..

But alas, I think those who completley disregard theory are only limiting themselves in their musical ability at some stage.

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TranceNRG69 has no knowledge of piano, theory etc yet his melodies just plain ROCK. This is rare.

Thank you for that compliment

I think writing good trance music, or any type of music for that matter, is something that cannot be taught in books and tutorials. I have no musical theory, but what I do have is passion for the music. I don't know how I write melodies. It just seems to come out of my emotions. If I am feeling confident I'm more likely to write something powerful and epic. If I'm feeling depressed then most of the time my melodies come out dark.

Also you must be your own worst critic. Some days I'll work on a melody for hours and won't get anywhere so I move on till I feel more inspired.

My devotion to the music is probably my most powerful tool for composing. I love the music so much and I have listened to it for so many years, that my mind is some how connected to it in some sub concious way. Hard to explain, but sometimes just listening to a favorite track of mine will inspire me to write great things. My first melody that I composed a few months back was inspired by the track Mat Silver vs Tony Burt - The Ultimate Wave. After hearing this song I went into some kind of trance and I composed the melody to "The Relentless Heart". Although this melody was directly influenced by that track, it did not sound like it, but did have the same uplifting vibe to it. At the time I had just begun producing so my sound was very unrefined. But I sent the sample to Mat Silver and he loved it and wanted to remix it even though my track wasn't good enough to be released because of my poor mixing skills. I don't know what the future will hold for that track, if they will ever actually remix it , or if I'll eventually finish it.

But one thing I do know is I will never stop producing.

Peace

Alanzo, if you want to hear some of my stuff just add me to msn messenger. email is [email protected]

just bookmarked it. thnx for the link. im slowly learning theory

another *bump*

someone just requested it so I thought I would bring wreak some life back into this thread..

added to bookmark

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Originally posted by alanzo another *bump* someone just requested it so I thought I would bring wreak some life back into this thread..

Why haven't you been on msn lately dude?

es

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Originally posted by Vert Why haven't you been on msn lately dude? es

my computers NIC card is fucked.. I've been using the comps at my U's public.. umm.. comp places hey I got dual monitors.. are you able to play a game on one and a movie on the other (both in full screen) - I can get two movies on full screen but not a game and a movie

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