TranceAddict Forums (www.tranceaddict.com/forums)
- Chill Out Room
-- Sex & Love
Pages (4): [1] 2 3 4 »
Sex & Love
Man is a sexual being; it is normal and natural for men and women of all ages to have sexual experiences covering a wide range of variation. However the Christian ethic (Islam equaly if not more) has for centuries foisted a distorted sexual image upon man. It states: �Anything pleasurable is sinful�. Sexual sensation being the most pleasurable sensation known to man at least at his present state of awareness, it naturally follows that sex should have the most stringent restraints, taboos and restrictions placed upon it by the Church. All of us, atheists included, have been born and reared in a basically religious culture and its doctrinal anti-sexual (anti-life) attitudes are rooted deeply in our basic personality, if for no other reason than the �osmosis� of race consciousness. This has caused more suffering, more misery, more inhibitions, more physical illness (due to repressed natural drives) and more insanity than any other teaching in history, and is linked to the other mistruths such as Original Sin and the Last Judgement, that have similarly caused such unnecessary consternation.
Strange as it may seem, true spirituality and sexuality are always inseparably related.
It is impossible to evolve into higher consciousness without a true understanding and practice of authentic sexuality. For example, extra-sensory perception, intuition and creativity cannot function in individuals who are sexually inhibited. Unconsciously recognising this fact, churches have for ages attempted to control and regulate the sexuality of their members. What Religion failed to understand is that love, not procreation, is the purpose of sex and that the production of offspring is incidental to love. Only animals use sex solely for procreation purposes. It is exclusively humans that experience the psychoemotional pleasures and ecstasies of the sex act. By insisting procreation is the only valid purpose of the sex act, under the penalty of sin and Hell, Religion lowers man to the level of animals. This has caused untold numbers of men and women to experience guilt in their sexual contacts which were directed solely at bringing pleasure to each other, as an expression of love and intimacy. All expressions of love are essentially sexual expressions. Sexual energy is not limited to the physical act of sex alone. The energy of sex is sublimated as creative energy at any and every level you find yourself in the universe. Energy travels between positive and negative poles. Indeed, every ascent of consciousness is, in this sense, a sexual process. Sex and love are a fusion, a coming together of thought and feeling and body, the synthesis of masculine and feminine, and this is the essence of creativity. So any creative act is a sexual act - from the writing of a book to baking a cake, from designing a bridge to painting a picture, from a love affair to playing a musical instrument, from a discovery or invention to raising a beautiful family. When all creative acts are interpreted as sexual, sex is no longer expressed at the expense of someone else but may uplift and illumine all concerned. Sex, then, is not necessarily limited to �genitals�, despite appearances that we are living in a genitaloriented culture, but all creativity is essentially sexual expression at its highest level. It is important to realise that as a human being you are sexual, and that your sexual activity, in whatever manner you find satisfying, is normal and natural for you. Sexual denials, shame, embarrassment, inhibition and guilt concerning your own body organs and various sexual acts probably causes the majority of stress and resulting problems. Fulfilment of the sex drive and sublimation of it through creative pursuits of all kinds, accompanied by self-knowledge, may then lead to uninhibited happiness and ecstatic satisfaction.
-------------
Taken from one of the most influenctial Psychology books of our time, 'Transforming the Mind'. If anyone wants an online copy msg me.
Re: Sex & Love
| quote: |
| Originally posted by Illusion ------------- Taken from one of the most influenctial Psychology books of our time, 'Transforming the Mind'. If anyone wants an online copy msg me. |
The influence exerted by new work (at that time) in a field like Psychology mainly reverberates through academic circles rather than popular press and so it's influence is mostly appreciated by those particular groups.
Here's the book
Transforming the Mind
If the link doesn't work paste this into your browser.
http://www.geocities.com/acitizenoftheworld/files/Mind.zip
This is the introduction. I think just about everyone should find it interesting.
INTRODUCTION
An evolutionary jump
You may, at some time, have had a �peak� experience, an ecstatic moment or a moment of greater understanding, when your consciousness expanded - and you knew it. When this occurs, the integration between left brain (logical thinking) and right brain (intuitive feelings and emotions) is manifested in increased energy-flow
between the two sides. This is thinking and feeling in an holistic and balanced way. It is a foretaste of an evolutionary jump for humanity - and in essence, what the socalled New Age is all about - a new level of maturity in mental development, an awakening.
By learning how to arouse the whole brain, selectively and at will, the mode of consciousness may be freely altered, appropriate to the task or situation - whether a crisis, making music, relaxing, mental arithmetic, brainstorming, or contemplating nature. In this new wide-awake consciousness, the world seems to be full of possibilities - it possesses a strong sense of rediscovered meaning. This is nothing mystical, it is essentially ordinary consciousness, operating for once at its proper efficiency. �When we pull back and get, for a moment, the �bird�s eye� view of life, it reveals meanings that are ungraspable by the narrow focus of our usual worm�s eye view� Colin Wilson Research tells us that one side of the brain is frequently cut off from the other, and that most of the time, very little of the potential capacity of the brain is in use. Brain studies have also shown that people who are functioning optimally have a high level of inter-hemispheric communication and that the two sides are working in synchrony, with the improved integration described above. Also overall arousal is both higher and under conscious control - this is the state of sustained and effortless concentration which consciousness researcher Len Fehmi calls the �Open Focus�
state. The methods described in this book are designed to help you achieve this state by a step-by-step approach. The skills that are learnt and practised give an objective understanding and control of the mind and just as important, a new understanding and empathy with others.
| quote: |
| Originally posted by Illusion The influence exerted by new work (at that time) in a field like Psychology mainly reverberates through academic circles rather than popular press and so it's influence is mostly appreciated by those particular groups. Here's the book Transforming the Mind If the link doesn't work paste this into your browser. http://www.geocities.com/acitizenof.../files/Mind.zip |
.
hmmmm sounds interesting, also a german copy there? 
I was just talking to my manager about sex before marriage. She is Christian, very religious. She was telling me how it's not right to have sex b4 marriage, and all that other religion crap. It made me feel a little guily... but damn... we are human! If sex makes a person feel better, I don't see why we "shouldn't" do it (as long as we are safe and not hurting anyone in the process)!!!!
Your manager is an intelligent person I believe. People tend to confuse the Christian church with the Catholic Church. Both are different because the beliefs are different (don't understand, pm me). The Bible does not distort sex, it simply gives you rules to follow and God gave us all free will, so you are free to ignore it. The Bible says (funny how people believe that is says things and I doubt really any of you have read the Christian Bible from Genesis to Revelations) that God made sex and that sex was supposed to be between a man and woman. Two become one and it's obvious that God made it for procreation. In Christian circles, sex is good just under the right circumstances, between a man and a woman who are married. I'm more likely to think that the rest of society have perverted sex to the point where most people think it is not what it should be. To the society out there, sex is a feel good thing, you do it because you want to do it and marriage means nothing. This argument will continue for a long time to come with secular vs. christian thoughts.
| quote: |
| Originally posted by torontotrance Your manager is an intelligent person I believe. People tend to confuse the Christian church with the Catholic Church. Both are different because the beliefs are different (don't understand, pm me). The Bible does not distort sex, it simply gives you rules to follow and God gave us all free will, so you are free to ignore it. The Bible says (funny how people believe that is says things and I doubt really any of you have read the Christian Bible from Genesis to Revelations) that God made sex and that sex was supposed to be between a man and woman. Two become one and it's obvious that God made it for procreation. In Christian circles, sex is good just under the right circumstances, between a man and a woman who are married. I'm more likely to think that the rest of society have perverted sex to the point where most people think it is not what it should be. To the society out there, sex is a feel good thing, you do it because you want to do it and marriage means nothing. This argument will continue for a long time to come with secular vs. christian thoughts. |
I'll be frank here, you will go to hell if you don't repent and accept Christ as your saviour. That's what the Bible says, not me but we are given free will, which means we have free choice to decide yes or no. Others will give you arguments why they think this religion is right or is not right. When it all comes down to it, you make your own decision about what you want to believe and we all find out what is right after we die, assuming that the big bang theory did not happen. Got questions pm me, I'm keeping it brief to the anti religion people around
| quote: |
| Originally posted by sExY pErSiAn She actually gave me a copy of the bible. I've been reading things here and there, interesting stuff. God says that sex before marriage is "foolish". Society has overated sex. Teens getting pregnant, unsafe sex, diseases, cheating, etc. I'm not religious, but I've been feeling more and more guilty about having sexual relationships, as I continue reading the bible. Am I gonna go to hell for enjoying myself and enjoying life???????? |
what about hindu or muslims will they go to hell because they will not accept our god.
humans are sexual beings, it is impossible to be asexual as a normal person. i don't think that even the most die hard religious people are asexual beings. the churches' attempt to regulate sex is a well intended jest to prevent ills that are the product of irresponsible pleasure.
sExY pErSiAn u shouldn't feel guilty cuz of your sexuality if are responsible about it, as with any pleasure moderation will serve you well.
| quote: |
| Originally posted by ralf_c sExY pErSiAn u shouldn't feel guilty cuz of your sexuality if are responsible about it, as with any pleasure moderation will serve you well. |
i think in today's society..we take sex as a normal think like any other activity..people dont consider it anything special and the reason why so many people are against religion is its stand on sex...i dont think u r goin to hell if u have sex with true emotion and meaning to it...cause people can just get married and then divorce in a week...so waiting till marriage shouldnt be a must..i think it is a sin if u just go around bangin left n right hehe..but sins r forgiven if u truly regret it....it is funny how sex is viewed in this world..me myself a catholic..think u should wait for the moment when it truly will mean alot to you..doesnt have to be marriage but just when it is for the right time n reason
Quite frankly, I think your manager is an idiot. There really is no evidence for the bible's validity that stands up to scrutiny, people are free to believe whatever they want, but before I accept that "pre marital sex is wrong", I wouldn't mind seeing some evidence. The same goes for "Because you don't believe there's a big white man in the sky looking over us, you're going to be condemned to eternal damnation. It doesn't matter if you were a good person on earth, all that matters is god's over inflated ego and his complete lack of ethical standards".
| quote: |
| Originally posted by arctic Quite frankly, I think your manager is an idiot. There really is no evidence for the bible's validity that stands up to scrutiny, people are free to believe whatever they want, but before I accept that "pre marital sex is wrong", I wouldn't mind seeing some evidence. The same goes for "Because you don't believe there's a big white man in the sky looking over us, you're going to be condemned to eternal damnation. It doesn't matter if you were a good person on earth, all that matters is god's over inflated ego and his complete lack of ethical standards". |
| quote: |
| Originally posted by Boomer187 atheist? Religion is based on faith, not evidence. |
so you just dislike it when people push their faith off on you.
I never really understood why those with such strong faith felt the need to force their beliefs on others. Its all good you like something, but let me make up my own mind.
| quote: |
| Originally posted by Boomer187 so you just dislike it when people push their faith off on you. I never really understood why those with such strong faith felt the need to force their beliefs on others. Its all good you like something, but let me make up my own mind. |
| quote: |
| Originally posted by jennypie www.churchofsatan.com |
Re: Sex & Love
| quote: |
| Originally posted by Illusion However the Christian ethic (Islam equaly if not more) has for centuries foisted a distorted sexual image upon man. It states: �Anything pleasurable is sinful�. |
One thing i would also like to add:
Christianity is not a religion in the normal sense. If you look at all other religions they have set rules, pray at certain times of the day, confession, clothing, diet rules etc. Religion is a set of rules to live by in the hope you will please god. Christianity is the beleif at we, imperfect beings as we are with no chance of coming close to pleasing a being that in itself is perfect, accept the truth that Jesus Christ, as a perfect being also, took our punishment onto himself so that we might be saved. This means that Christianity is not a set of rules but the knowledge that whatever we do, as long as when wee do wrong we realise and repent, we are safe in the hope of heaven. To summarize it very cheesily other religions are DO religion, as set of rules of things you must do, Christianity realises that the things that secure our immortality have already been DONE.
It is also worth noting that in Christianity sexual sin is not its own category, it goes along with things like theft, greed, selfishness etc. It is never to late to ask for repentance.
| quote: |
| Originally posted by Pheobius One thing i would also like to add: Christianity is not a religion in the normal sense. If you look at all other religions they have set rules, pray at certain times of the day, confession, clothing, diet rules etc. Religion is a set of rules to live by in the hope you will please god. Christianity is the beleif at we, imperfect beings as we are with no chance of coming close to pleasing a being that in itself is perfect, accept the truth that Jesus Christ, as a perfect being also, took our punishment onto himself so that we might be saved. This means that Christianity is not a set of rules but the knowledge that whatever we do, as long as when wee do wrong we realise and repent, we are safe in the hope of heaven. To summarize it very cheesily other religions are DO religion, as set of rules of things you must do, Christianity realises that the things that secure our immortality have already been DONE. It is also worth noting that in Christianity sexual sin is not its own category, it goes along with things like theft, greed, selfishness etc. It is never to late to ask for repentance. |
no see you can't keep doing it like stealing then asking forgiveness because God knows our hearts and if we mean it or not. Actually this has turned into a decent discussion. To answer arctic's question, God allows you to make up your mind, hence the free will. I personally believe that if God completely revealed himself to people, then 99.99% of people would believe it. God does reveal himself to those who truly ask but not in the way that people think. See he does not play by anyone's rules, he created them, so he works in his own time and God has forever. Scary thought for most Christians.
if god revealed himself to everybody..then how does he know who truly have faith and dont..who believe him cause of faith and belifs and who follow him out of fear..it is all about tests of faith and belifs..its like having a test and the answers..how can u tell those who studied and understood from those who memorized the answers..
Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright © 2000-2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.