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Posted by rizo on Feb-12-2004 22:13:

San Francisco Officials Marry Gay Couple

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SAN FRANCISCO - In a bold political and legal challenge to California law, city authorities officiated at the marriage of a lesbian couple Thursday and said they will issue more gay marriage licenses.


Meanwhile in Massachusetts, legislative leaders met Thursday to try to find words that would ban gay marriage but legalize civil unions, expressing optimism as they reconvened their constitutional convention.

The act of civil disobedience in San Francisco was coordinated by Mayor Gavin Newsom and top city officials and was intended to beat a conservative group to the punch.

The group, Campaign for California Families, had planned to go to court on Friday to get an injunction preventing the city from issuing marriage licenses to gay couples.

Longtime lesbian activists Phyllis Lyon, 79, and Del Martin, 83, were hurriedly issued a license and were married just before noon by City Assessor Mabel Teng in a closed-door civil ceremony at City Hall, mayor's spokesman Peter Ragone said. The two have been a couple for 51 years.

Ragone said that beginning at noon, officials would begin issuing marriage licenses to any gay couples applying for one. One lesbian couple had already lined up outside City Hall, one of the women wearing a white wedding dress.

Lyon and Martin said after the brief ceremony that they were going home to rest and did not plan anything to celebrate. The couple seemed proud of what they had done.

"Why shouldn't we" be able to marry? Lyon asked.

Thursday's marriage runs counter to a ballot measure California voters approved in 2000 that defines marriage as a union between a man and a woman.

No state legally sanctions gay marriage, though Massachusetts could become the first this spring. The Massachusetts high court has ruled that gays are entitled under the state constitution to marry.

State lawmakers later passed a domestic partner law that, when it goes into effect in 2005, will offer the most generous protections to gays outside Vermont.

Mayor Newsom was not present for the wedding Thursday. The two official witnesses were Kate Kendell, director of the National Center for Lesbian Rights and former city official Roberta Achtenberg.

The Campaign for California Families did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

In Massachusetts, leaders said they hoped to finally reach an agreement after two other versions of a proposed constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage were narrowly defeated during the much-anticipated convention's opening day Wednesday.

"Things break down in this building by the minute, but it's going to be interesting," said Senate Minority Leader Brian Lees, a Republican. "I'm cautiously optimistic."

Massachusetts was thrust into the epicenter of the contentious social political, religious and legal debate over gay marriages in November when the state's Supreme Judicial Court ruled 4-3 that it was unconstitutional to ban gay couples from marrying, a decision that was reaffirmed last week.

"We're talking about a wide, wide variety of options and potential amendments," said House Speaker Thomas Finneran, an ardent opponent of gay marriage. "Nobody's in a position, really, to insist on anything other than good faith efforts on all sides. We're open to all sorts of ideas."



Any constitutional amendment would have to get 101 votes in the constitutional convention � which is a joint session of the state House and Senate. It would have to get 101 votes again in the 2005-06 legislative session, and would then need the approval of voters in November 2006.

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Go them!


Posted by St_Andrew on Feb-12-2004 22:49:

wow united states of america is now only one century away from the rest of the world!


Posted by smokeape on Feb-12-2004 23:33:

I put the same thing out in the chill room.

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=160743

Damn homos...

[[[smoke]]]


Posted by Cyrus King on Feb-12-2004 23:40:

quote:
Originally posted by smokeape
I put the same thing out in the chill room.

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=160743

Damn homos...

[[[smoke]]]


ahaa...

Fuckin redneck


Posted by smokeape on Feb-12-2004 23:53:




[[[smoke]]]


Posted by NYCTrancefan on Feb-13-2004 02:22:

quote:
Originally posted by St_Andrew
wow united states of america is now only one century away from the rest of the world!


Which world might I ask, after all for actions such as that in some parts of the world you are killed by religous zealots.


Posted by rizo on Feb-13-2004 02:40:

quote:
Originally posted by smokeape



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more like



sorry if it offends anyone


Posted by PHALPAX on Feb-13-2004 03:15:

quote:
Originally posted by St_Andrew
wow united states of america is now only one century away from the rest of the world!


Speaking in technical terms, a majority of Europe only have so called "registered partnerships"...including yours I believe. Only Belgium and the Netherlands have "marriages".

Because America is a federalist nation, only certain areas have civil unions.


Posted by smokeape on Feb-13-2004 03:41:

quote:
Originally posted by rizen
more like



sorry if it offends anyone


Lucky you. Since you live in California, you can drive right over to San Francisco and marry a homo too!


[[[smoke]]]


Posted by Matt on Feb-13-2004 03:58:

quote:
Originally posted by smokeape
Lucky you. Since you live in California, you can drive right over to San Francisco and marry a homo too!


[[[smoke]]]




hmmm... why not? dual income = $$$$$


Posted by Cyrus King on Feb-13-2004 04:03:

quote:
Originally posted by smokeape
Lucky you. Since you live in California, you can drive right over to San Francisco and marry a homo too!


[[[smoke]]]


unlucky you....i smell a ban coming out of your ass


Posted by Yoepus on Feb-13-2004 04:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
unlucky you....i smell a ban coming out of your ass


you would be one to know


haha sorry, I couldn't help myself


Posted by Cyrus King on Feb-13-2004 04:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
you would be one to know


haha sorry, I couldn't help myself


i was never banned. But i was suspended becuase certain people had to cry about me making Israel look like the way it should. But justice prevailed...and i was set free.


Posted by Yoepus on Feb-13-2004 04:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
i was never banned. But i was suspended becuase certain people had to cry about me making Israel look like the way it should. But justice prevailed...and i was set free.



hehe i know.. I think it was the one time I actually PMed a mod too, I lobbied on your behalf. How many times do you see that??? How many???


Posted by Cyrus King on Feb-13-2004 04:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
hehe i know.. I think it was the one time I actually PMed a mod too, I lobbied on your behalf. How many times do you see that??? How many???


very rarely! Cus it hardly happens!


Posted by rizo on Feb-13-2004 05:07:

quote:
Originally posted by smokeape
Lucky you. Since you live in California, you can drive right over to San Francisco and marry a homo too!


[[[smoke]]]
jealous


Posted by smokeape on Feb-13-2004 05:23:

No, I'm not jealous. I don't smoke poles either!

Lol!
[[[smoke]]]


Posted by rizo on Feb-13-2004 05:47:

quote:
Originally posted by smokeape
No, I'm not jealous. I don't smoke poles either!

Lol!
[[[smoke]]]
You sound very jealous, its not healthy to keep stuff inside. Its okay to come out of the closet, I wont think of you as a fag. I promise. LOL


Posted by priveye03 on Feb-13-2004 12:37:

quote:
Originally posted by rizen
more like



sorry if it offends anyone


I'm offended . Not really though.

I'm glad to see SF is sticking its neck out. It's about damn time if you ask me. Now I just have to wait 100 years until oklahoma even starts to have a debate on this topic. We don't live in the "Bible Belt" for free you know.


Posted by St_Andrew on Feb-13-2004 16:43:

quote:
Originally posted by PHALPAX
Speaking in technical terms, a majority of Europe only have so called "registered partnerships"...including yours I believe. Only Belgium and the Netherlands have "marriages".


hmm it's legal to marry in sweden as a gay. you can also adopt children as a gay.

i tried to find some more facts about the other countries but i didn't find any

quote:
Originally posted by NYCTrancefan
Which world might I ask, after all for actions such as that in some parts of the world you are killed by religous zealots.


perhaps in my dream world that statement wasn't very serious or well thought... but my point is, that it should be a obvious right to be able to get married as a gay


Posted by PHALPAX on Feb-13-2004 19:29:

quote:
Originally posted by St_Andrew
hmm it's legal to marry in sweden as a gay. you can also adopt children as a gay.

i tried to find some more facts about the other countries but i didn't find any


Is it marriage? From my understanding most of Europe has what Vermont and Mass have....civil unions, aka registered partnerships.


Posted by St_Andrew on Feb-13-2004 19:37:

quote:
Originally posted by PHALPAX
Is it marriage? From my understanding most of Europe has what Vermont and Mass have....civil unions, aka registered partnerships.


hmm not quite sure really, always thought it was marriages, i will try harder to find some info on it though


Posted by St_Andrew on Feb-13-2004 20:05:

Read This!

you were right

although they are on their way changing the law


Posted by rizo on Feb-13-2004 21:11:

quote:
Originally posted by priveye03
I'm offended . Not really though.
Sorry, I will watch Triumph des Willens for my punishment


Posted by PHALPAX on Feb-13-2004 21:14:

quote:
Originally posted by St_Andrew
you were right

although they are on their way changing the law



hhmmmm...interesting....gotta love Europe


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