CU Football Rape Allegations, etc...

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Posted by Floorfiller on Feb-23-2004 23:41:

CU Football Rape Allegations, etc...

hey,

i go to CU and was just wondering what everyone thinks on the whole Rape allegations and other scandal stuff that's been coming out. do people outside of Colorado even know about this?

Posted by PHALPAX on Feb-24-2004 00:57:

Re: CU Football Rape Allegations, etc...

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
hey,

i go to CU and was just wondering what everyone thinks on the whole Rape allegations and other scandal stuff that's been coming out. do people outside of Colorado even know about this?

The whole rape issue at CU has been all over the country. I'm always reserved in terms of rape allegations because rape, especially at a college, can be taken out of context because there is such a fine line from having censual sex and turning it into forcible rape. It has been a growing trend to see women accuse a guy of rape where it was just a one night stand in reality, or both parties were fucked up etc. I'm not saying that every rape case is not credible but like any other case, there has to be compelling evidence for me to be convinced that rape occurred not just a "he said she said" case.

Posted by MrSquirrel on Feb-24-2004 01:10:

It does not surprise me if the Football program did have strippers (prostitutes) brought to the rooms of prospects. College football is big business and you have to get the best players any wya you can, unfortunately.

I do think that Gary Barnett was totally out of line and very un-professional in his coments directed towards the young lady who was a kicker there and has alleged that she was raped by another team member.

We shall wiat and see how it pans out, my guess is Barnett will be let go and will find a job and another unscrupulous university soon.

MrS

Posted by Arbiter on Feb-24-2004 02:23:

I have no objective reason to believe the accusers rather than the accused at this time. Perhaps it's merely my ignorance, but I haven't heard of any credible evidence to support these allegations... at all.

Posted by Floorfiller on Feb-24-2004 05:53:

i actually know quite a lot about this case that you probably won't hear on the news because i know someone at the CU police department who goes through all the reports hehehe, but i was just curious what everyone thought and i hadn't seen a thread on it yet...

also, they aren't going to fire Barnett because he has a like 4.6 million dollar contract. if they fire him, he still gets all of it, so instead they are gonna try and force him into resignation so they don't have to pay him...

i don't know...sports is tricky. of course all this stuff goes on, but i'm a big believer in the girls put themselves in bad positions and from what i've seen at college usually encourage this type of behaviour..

Posted by Dopey on Feb-24-2004 12:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
i actually know quite a lot about this case that you probably won't hear on the news because i know someone at the CU police department who goes through all the reports hehehe, but i was just curious what everyone thought and i hadn't seen a thread on it yet...

also, they aren't going to fire Barnett because he has a like 4.6 million dollar contract. if they fire him, he still gets all of it, so instead they are gonna try and force him into resignation so they don't have to pay him...

i don't know...sports is tricky. of course all this stuff goes on, but i'm a big believer in the girls put themselves in bad positions and from what i've seen at college usually encourage this type of behaviour..

i think barnett was out of line. but then again, the man has one of the toughest jobs in the world IMO. it is hard to manage a team of that size. i can see why he would be pissed at the girl. he gives a female a chance and she fuks him royaly (no pun intended).

im not gonna ask what you know. but can you tell us what your views are considering the info you have alleged access to?

Posted by imokruok on Feb-24-2004 15:59:

This is what universities get for going into the ghetto to dig up people who can dunk a basketball or run a post pattern. No concern for academic ability, only a concern for winning. They should be prepared for any and all consequences from their actions. The girl at Colorado had no place on that team. It was like throwing her into a men's prison.

Here at Wisconsin, we've had 2 "stupid athlete" cases in the last month. Early in February, one of the starters on the basketball team wringed his hands around his girlfriend's neck. Just last night, the football team's leading rusher from last season assaulted a 19-year-old girl. You recruit stupid, you get stupid.

Posted by igottaknow on Feb-24-2004 16:58:

I have no respect for Gary Barnett. It's interesting when confronted with rape allegations his reponse is to discredit the accuser by attacking her talent as a football player. So Gary your saying if only she was a better football player we could believe her alegations. For those of you who believe its an isolated incident read this account from another woman...

"In another case, according to police records released Wednesday, a woman in the athletic department claimed she was raped by a player and when she told Barnett about it, she quoted him as saying he "would back his player 100 percent if she took this forward in the criminal process."

Posted by MisterOpus1 on Feb-24-2004 17:03:

Posted by Floorfiller on Feb-25-2004 02:45:

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1
Spill the beans, what do ya know? I'm a KU alum, so anything in the Big 12 concerns me, let alone Colorado (which I've always liked and respected).

hehehe obviously i'm not gonna say something although the chances of a reporter picking stuff up off this site is probably pretty low, but i'll tell you my thoughts on the whole thing...

as far as the rape allegations. i'm sure that there is sex in recruiting. i'm sure that is no surprise to anyone here, but i'm not too sure about the rape allegations. i'm sure that rape does happen, but given the people involved in this case, i'm not real sympatheic.

as far as the kicker thing. i think that barnett was definitely in the wrong. he tried to make it sound like it was katie's fault that she was on the team and that because she was a bad player that the rape was justified. well, of course that doesn't fly. for those of you that don't know katie nhedia (or however you spell her damn name hehe) was put on the team buy the coach before barnett, who openly had a problem with her being on the team, but was pretty much stuck with it. so he obviously had reasons for saying what he said, but it doesn't justify rape of course.