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Posted by EternalMusic on Feb-24-2004 16:11:

SoundCards: Creative Platinum vs. M-Audiophile

Guys i need your opinion, which one is the best?


Posted by dj-rob on Feb-24-2004 16:14:

Ghost Smilie

I've heard that you should stay away from creative for production, I personally have a soundblaster and im switching to a m-audio product soon, from what Iv'e heard they are really good, but there are other products on the market that people will recommend.

There are a few posts on this board about the audiophile and delta, search for em, they have all the technical specs.


Posted by hey cheggy on Feb-24-2004 16:36:

I think the ASIO 2 drivers that come with M-Audio cards would make them a better choice over a creative card. And yes, there are other options out there. It really depends on what you want the card to do, if you need midi connection, do you require digital lines, do you want rca or 1/4" connections, do you have any hardware synths?, etc etc.


Posted by /I\ on Feb-24-2004 17:24:

ASIO drivers on the audiophile are way better. You will be able to play effects and instruments in real time (i.e. without a delay between hitting a key and getting someesound)

But you will have to wait atleast 40ms to hear anything on a BSLive :/ But if you are only programming in step time then it does not really matter =)


Posted by xls on Feb-24-2004 17:24:

no competition - M-Audio all the way. Their drivers are rock-solid.


Posted by alanzo on Feb-25-2004 01:22:

Yeah I own an Audiophile.. I can get about 5ms without pops on ASIO with a single VSTi instance.. not bad.. sounds great, NEVER have had a driver problem, and the cost can't be beat for the quality..


Posted by pho mo on Feb-25-2004 01:55:

Just to let you know, the soundblaster audigy platinum pro has got ASIO 2 drivers, so you should be able to get pretty low latency from them. And it does 24/96

Having said this, I've no idea how good the soundblaster is, since i've got a delta 44 and couldn't recommend it more.

There's only ONE thing i'm not happy about with the M-audio, and that is it has no hardware acceleration for directX games! The soundblaster definitely does. Just in case that's a consideration as well.


Posted by The Designer on Feb-25-2004 11:06:

Sound Blaster Audigy 2 lets you make rich 24-bit recordings to your PC with an 24-bit/96kHz recording capability, while ASIO support allows compatible music creation software to link directly to ASIO compliant hardware, allowing multi-channel recording simultaneously at 16-bit/48khz at ultra low latency of <=2ms.


Posted by alanzo on Feb-25-2004 14:37:

quote:
Originally posted by The Designer
Sound Blaster Audigy 2 lets you make rich 24-bit recordings to your PC with an 24-bit/96kHz recording capability, while ASIO support allows compatible music creation software to link directly to ASIO compliant hardware, allowing multi-channel recording simultaneously at 16-bit/48khz at ultra low latency of <=2ms.


that sounds like an add for Creative... either way, I've never seen/heard of a pro producer or studio using a creative card.. they all use M-AUdio or EMU.. Creative is for basement producers..


Posted by EternalMusic on Feb-28-2004 11:49:

Wow, thanks guys!
I see that Maudio is popular but just a final question, which of the sound cards is better to record WAV ?


Posted by /I\ on Feb-28-2004 17:57:

Record your wav files on anything apart from am SBLive, seriously.

SBLive has way to much aliasing problems and generally suffers from poor A/D filters. If you layer enough quiet samplles recorded with a SBLive, You will end up with loads of hiss and generally regret doing so later on.


Posted by EternalMusic on Mar-02-2004 14:12:

Thanks ,
umm, does the Maudio have an inner buffer which reduces the burden on the CPU? hope you understand


Posted by alanzo on Mar-02-2004 14:38:

I'm not sure.. it has ASIO which does that..


Posted by Strep on Mar-02-2004 15:24:

I bought a SB Audigy when they first came out but then realised that although Creative advertise their card as being 24bit you can only record 16bits on it. It can play 24bit wavs but not record them. Also when using the asio drivers you can only record at 48khz and not the more popular 44.1khz. I have relegated the audigy to my second PC about 2 years ago and have been happily using a Terratec EWX 24/96 every since!

Get anything but a creative card they are good for listening to mp3's and playing games on but if your serious about recording music get a card that suits the job.


Posted by hey cheggy on Mar-02-2004 16:15:

quote:
Originally posted by EternalMusic
Thanks ,
umm, does the Maudio have an inner buffer which reduces the burden on the CPU? hope you understand


An inner buffer? do you mean a DSP? No, they don't.


Posted by /I\ on Mar-02-2004 19:31:

Hmm dunno either ... I know an echo mia has a buffer for oversampling. Noticed it also takes some strain from the cpu when upping this buffer to say 1024k. Using 'echo wdm' instead of 'directx' for playback seems to give me a little headroom too. I can only assume the audiophile is the same because these two cards have almost equal specs

I agree with checking out some Terratec stuff .. the DMX Fire one is like what an Audigy should have been wuth pure 24/96, a break out box, surround sound and and all those drivers you might miss for gaming


Posted by RiCo on Mar-02-2004 23:45:

I say M Audio over Creative. I've heard great songs from people in these forums that use Creative soundcards but that's more for gaming. M Audio is more professional and more oriented to producing.


Posted by Serp on Mar-03-2004 00:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Strep
I bought a SB Audigy when they first came out but then realised that although Creative advertise their card as being 24bit you can only record 16bits on it. It can play 24bit wavs but not record them. Also when using the asio drivers you can only record at 48khz and not the more popular 44.1khz. I have relegated the audigy to my second PC about 2 years ago and have been happily using a Terratec EWX 24/96 every since!

Get anything but a creative card they are good for listening to mp3's and playing games on but if your serious about recording music get a card that suits the job.



just looking at that card, it looks very nice!

phase 28 looks like what i am after
http://produceren.terratec.net/product.php?pid=3



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