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Posted by Subtle on Feb-25-2004 18:30:

Push style lead sound(?)

Is it possible to create the typical Push synths sound using only VST instruments?

In that case HOW???


Posted by Sean Walsh on Feb-25-2004 18:35:

Sure, get a good VST. The Arturia Minimoog seemed to have a bunch of preset in a similar sound to a lot of Push leads. I think that gets released today, so I'd download the demo and play around with it. Atmosphere and Vanguard can do them as well.


Posted by Dirty Ice on Feb-25-2004 18:47:

I want a bass like push...I have a jp8000 I think that what he uses for bass and lead, I could be wrong. If I had the midi of one of his basslines I am sure I could recreate it. Anyone have the midi?


Posted by alanzo on Feb-25-2004 19:37:

again with the copying everyone else.. try to get your own style.. not use everyone elses.. just my two cents


Posted by Floorfiller on Feb-25-2004 19:38:

i think that you can do a little better than copying that push sound...its worn out..


Posted by alanzo on Feb-25-2004 19:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
i think that you can do a little better than copying that push sound...its worn out..


and old.. if your just HAVE to copy someone at least go with a reasonably fresh sound.. like antiloop


Posted by Limit on Feb-25-2004 20:00:

Honestly I think that in the beginning it's sort of a good idea to try and copy what you like. It can give you some idea of how it's done and then you can create from there. Thats how i learned and still am learning today. You never stop learning and trying push the envelope(filter envelope that is!)It's good to listen to a track and say hey I think I can do that! It's like math...you need the basics to go further.
Limit Out!


Posted by alanzo on Feb-25-2004 20:11:

quote:
You never stop learning and trying push the envelope(filter envelope that is!)


heh heh heh

quote:
It's good to listen to a track and say hey I think I can do that! It's like math...you need the basics to go further


I think it's more imporant to be able to say "I know how he did that" rather then "I think I can do that" that way you can take what he did and adobt it to your own style..


Posted by CrackedLcd on Feb-25-2004 20:36:

I've been able to get some really good push style leads out of the v-station, which is one of the reasons I fell in luv with it. Back to the topic. The key to a push style lead is the amount of noise you add, the filter and resonance. Also, reverb and a slight chorus is always good. Layer it and you have that full push sound.

There is nothing rong with copying other ppls sounds. If it sounds good, why not use it. I think we are all here to make music that we ourselves like and music that we think others will also. The generic supersaws that are on every hardstyle/hardtrance track (being sarcastic) are there because they sound good and they fit with the style of music. If it was so bad to duplicate a sound then nobody would.

It's cool to be individual and have your own style. Coming up with new innovative sounds is cool. It gets you noticed. Plus it is a way for ppl to recongnize your work. For instance when a person hears the stabby push style synth, the know M.I.K.E. made the tune. Same with flutlicht/shokk. When you hear that lead you know it's them who porduced it.


Posted by chrispitcha on Feb-25-2004 23:30:

He uses a Virus C for majority of his leads.


Posted by hey cheggy on Feb-26-2004 03:26:

PWM. Unison.


Posted by Mossy on Feb-26-2004 10:18:

the virus.info tutorial on synth programming teaches you some good generic synth stuff - especially for softsynths where CPU usage is important, maybe have a read of that.


Posted by Vizay on Feb-27-2004 00:28:

just remember...what makes them pushleads so special is the reidicilous ammount of reverb he uses for it...

it's a pretty regular saw with a little electro touch if I'm not totally misstaken

just remember, add 10 times as much reverb as usual and your'e halfway there


Posted by Sebraa on Feb-27-2004 07:41:

Smiling Frog

And don't forget to add delay with lot of "feedback" and "dry".


Posted by Vizay on Feb-27-2004 12:06:

yeah delay.....lots of delay...loooooooooots of it....more than you can imagine



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