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Posted by Ian on Feb-26-2004 01:43:

Love Poundin' Sensation phwoar

Was browsing earlier, could use a new pc & came across a specification worth of immense drooling imo, would like other opinions on it other than Mizzuno's & Nik's

Processor - AMD Athlon 64 FX-51 Processor
Operating System - Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Memory - 1024MB DDR RAM (2x 512MB)
Hard Disk - 400GB 7200 RPM ATA-100 Drive (2x200GB)
Optical 1 - 4x Multiformat (+/-) DVD-Rewiter / DVD Copier Drive
Optical 2 - 16x DVD-ROM Drive
Graphics - 256MB ATi Radeon 9800 XT Graphics


Modem - Dedicated high speed Supanet optimised 56K modem*
Internet Access - Supanet Internet Access Preloaded

Monitor - 15" TFT Flat Panel Monitor
Network - 10/100 Ethernet Port for Home Networking
Firewire - 2x 1394 Firewire Ports
Card Reader - ConnectPro 10 in 1 Multi-Format Card Reader & Writer
Sound - 6 Channel Sound Onboard
Keyboard etc. - Multimedia Keyboard, Optical Mouse & 2.1 Stereo Speakers
Ports etc. - 1.44MB Floppy Drive, USB2.0 Ports x4, Parallel & Standard Ports
Case - Full ATX Tower Case with Upgrade Capacity (7 Drive Bays)

Software 1 - Microsoft Works Version 7
Software 2 - Microsoft Office XP - 60 Day Trial
Software 3 - Cyberlink PowerDVD Software Suite
Software 4 - Pinnacle DVD Copying Suite





�1496.99
inc. vat

Bearing in mind I wouldn't have the modem or net access bit of it anyway, how does that rate with you lot


Posted by meneedit on Feb-26-2004 01:50:

I lark it alot


Posted by malek on Feb-26-2004 01:54:

more RAM


Posted by meneedit on Feb-26-2004 01:55:

ahlamalek


is that you in your avatar.......


you look stoned as


Posted by malek on Feb-26-2004 01:59:

quote:
Originally posted by meneedit
ahlamalek


is that you in your avatar.......


you look stoned as



not stoned, drunk... at the hotel... going out... for more


Posted by meneedit on Feb-26-2004 02:01:

Re: phwoar

quote:
Originally posted by Ian^
�1496.99

what is that in australian currency?


Posted by Shudder on Feb-26-2004 02:03:

15" flat screen? thats tiny for such a monster system. 24"


Posted by Ian on Feb-26-2004 02:04:

Re: Re: phwoar

About $3498 in Aussie terms


Posted by Ian on Feb-26-2004 02:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Shudder
15" flat screen? thats tiny for such a monster system. 24"


it's the basic one they sell them with, the main reason im looking at this one is cos the company has a buy now pay in 6 months thing and then u can pay monthly, pay more, but for people on tiny budgets like myself, would come in quite handy. You can upgrade to 17" but remember how far behind the UK is in things, like so many exchanges that can't even get ADSL Net yet

Ram Wise i'd be tempted to ask for 2gigs, but I'm not sure how flexible they are, definitely the kinda system I wanna be looking at tho, atm im running an AMD Athlon 1000mhz and 384mb ram (added 256 a while back) but the system is 3 years old and some now, so it's served me well, only one hdd died on me too, just seems time to look for something to last a long time again into the future (damn my 14" monitor from my old 486 surely has to go


Posted by Streakfury on Feb-26-2004 02:10:

Defo worthy of drooling.

** drools **


Posted by meneedit on Feb-26-2004 02:16:

Re: Re: Re: phwoar

quote:
Originally posted by Ian^
About $3498 in Aussie terms


f'n hell


Posted by whiskers on Feb-26-2004 03:08:

jesus, what the farking hell do you want 2 gigs of ram for???


Processor - AMD Athlon 64 FX-51 Processor ($746.00US)

gets good ratings, beats intel 3.2ghz...


Memory - 1024MB DDR RAM (2x 512MB)

depending on what you want to do, that's about enough. compared to the rest of your configuration, it's a bit skimpy. what brand is it?


Hard Disk - 400GB 7200 RPM ATA-100 Drive (2x200GB)

that's probably WAY more than enough even for a massive leecher.


Graphics - 256MB ATi Radeon 9800 XT Graphics ($461.00 US)

hmmmm.... are you planning on getting 200FPS in video games?


Monitor - 15" TFT Flat Panel Monitor

a 15" monitor is pretty small

Sound - 6 Channel Sound Onboard

be careful with this. what motherboard is it? most of the time onboard stuff can be pretty sketchy... unless you have ASUS A7N8X deluxe, like i do, which has a 5.1 dolby digital encoder or what the fuck ever onboard.


chip + hard drives + graphics card + memory + monitor = 1,199.56 GBP


add the software + keyboard / speakers + motherboard and i suppose that adds up to 1,500

i'd say it's a bit too much, unless you're a hardcore gamer / overclocker.


where did you find it?


Posted by DJ Lac on Feb-26-2004 03:19:

might as well get a 46 hdtv with a dvi output and hook your system up to with a 700 watt surround sound system. Only if I can find a nice long dvi cable I would lol.. my comp is far from the tv. would have used that to extend my gaming


Posted by DigiNut on Feb-26-2004 03:37:

It's not bad, but for that price I don't think it's anything special. Especially since they don't list brands for stuff like the memory or hard drives, it could be cheap shit.

Also keep in mind that the Athlon FX is a ripoff - it's designed for "cinematic computing" and costs literally $500 more than a faster regular Athlon 64.

Here are the *ordinary* individual prices of those parts, in CDN:

Athlon 64 FX 5.1: $1000
or: Athlon 64 3400+: $560

Asus SK8N Mobo for FX: $285
or: Asus K8V Deluxe for 64: $188

4x DVD writer: obsolete now but my friend just got one for $80

Radeon 9800XT: $600 (but why... get the pro 128 for $360)

Samsung 512MB DDR400 RAM x2: $234
WD 7200rpm 200 GB HD x2: $400
16x DVD-ROM: $40
Modem: $20
15" flat panel: $380
LAN, Firewire, Ports: On motherboard
Floppy: $10
Keyboard, Mouse, Speakers: $100 max
Case: $50
Cables, fans, miscellaneous stuff: $30
Software: Free

Total: $3229 for top-of-the-line, $2452 if you bust it down to the 3200+ and the 128 MB video card. Which, in your UK pounds at the current exchange rate should come out to �1288 or �978.

So dude, at best you're breaking even (assuming 16% VAT) and at worst you're getting totally ripped. Those new parts like the AMD FX and Radeon XT aren't worth the money yet, but even if you wanted them, you still aren't saving money on this "deal".

And these are just using ordinary retail part prices, not wholesale or OEM, which the company offering this deal is surely getting them at.

Ripoff...


Posted by Ian on Feb-26-2004 11:13:

Big thanks to Drew & Digi for input

To be honest, this is exactly what I need to know, cos I am going to need value for money, but also parts that work, I'm going to continue looking around but stores like thats from (tiny) rarely gives brands as far as I know for things. if I find any similar configs, will post them later today for you all to run over ta


Posted by blazed it on Feb-26-2004 11:17:

no 8x dvd burner?


Posted by Ian on Feb-26-2004 11:21:

quote:
Originally posted by blazed it
no 8x dvd burner?


it was the 'highest spec' on the site.. might goto build one myself (some sites let us do that) and see how much I can spend getting a similar one with diff parts & brands


Posted by nrjizer on Feb-26-2004 11:33:

brb, coming to rob you


Posted by jdat on Feb-26-2004 14:09:

quote:
Originally posted by whiskers

Hard Disk - 400GB 7200 RPM ATA-100 Drive (2x200GB)

that's probably WAY more than enough even for a massive leecher.




I got an 80 gig for xmas the thing was full in 2 weeks :/

400 gigs would last me 1 1/2 months tops!


I need a 2 Tb tower


Posted by Ian on Feb-26-2004 14:11:

quote:
Originally posted by jdat


I got an 80 gig for xmas the thing was full in 2 weeks :/

400 gigs would last me 1 1/2 months tops!


I need a 2 Tb tower


yeah but frog porn doesn't count as we don't all dl it john


Posted by KilldaDJ on Feb-26-2004 20:24:

King

fuck the onboard shit, its usually crap.

but other than that, the setup looks fine, the price is a on the dear side (if u got a nicer monitor, then maybe)


Posted by nrjizer on Feb-26-2004 20:50:

quote:
Originally posted by KilldaDJ
fuck the onboard shit, its usually crap.

but other than that, the setup looks fine, the price is a on the dear side (if u got a nicer monitor, then maybe)


Actually I'm running onboard 5.1 sound and network off my nforce2 mobo, and its excellent.


Posted by UWM on Feb-26-2004 21:05:

I still run on a 350 MHz PII with 96MB of RAM from '98.

Phwoar.


Posted by meneedit on Feb-26-2004 22:23:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Lac
Only if I can find a nice long dvi cable


somebody said to me:

"the longer the cable the lower the quality"


is that right?


Posted by meneedit on Feb-26-2004 22:26:

quote:
Originally posted by UWM
I still run on a 350 MHz PII with 96MB of RAM from '98.

Phwoar.



shit, I just recently upgraded from a Celeron 366


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