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The end of the Earth??

and completely unrelated to politics, Israel/Palestine, or anything else really.


So at what point do you think the government has to start making long-term projections about the end of the planet? Given that the sun will ultimately consume itself, and likely take the Earth with it, at what point in time do you realistically plan on finding a new planet that is hospitable to humans, where civilization can start anew.

Or do you think humans will destroy eachother and the planet in the end, causing the elimination of mankind?

It's all about California breaking off and chilling with Hawaii and Alaska...

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/endofworld.html

To answer your questions:

1) in the future
2) in 1500 more years exactly
3) no

Bush starts up the space program again.
sets up a colony on the moon
civil war between the moon and earth
overpopulation of earth
depletion of resources on earth
massive tranport of "earthlings" to moon
civil war between "moonmen" colonies and "earthling" colonies.
winner takes all

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Originally posted by djSlain Bush starts up the space program again. sets up a colony on the moon civil war between the moon and earth overpopulation of earth depletion of resources on earth massive tranport of "earthlings" to moon civil war between "moonmen" colonies and "earthling" colonies. winner takes all

Yeah, except the moon doesn't really have any natural resources or atmosphere, and would surely be taken out with the Earth in the end. I mean, if humans are going to be a lasting race, they gotta start figuring out how to go intergalactically to start anew. (Perhaps an Adam and Eve...typical movie plot). It's easier to believe that little human-like planets are budding up and burning out all over the universe, at random, wherever such ideal conditions exist.

Youpus will probably use his zionist mustard/communist friends in russia to destroy the world... yeah, that is how it will end!

or perhaps the world will go on as usual for another 4 billion years or so...

I don't know why you're worried so much...the Sun is a yellow sequence dwarf (that fuses hydrogen into helium to generate it's energy) that's about 5 billions years old (i'll try to find some good links)...usually, yellow dwarfs have a lifespan of about 10 billion years, so we still have a good 5 billion years of existence to worry about things that WILL actually wipe us out as opposed to different sun cooling scenarios...like for instance, ourselves...here's to humanity wiping itself out sooner than later...

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Originally posted by Epicurus I don't know why you're worried so much...the Sun is a yellow sequence dwarf (that fuses hydrogen into helium to generate it's energy) that's about 5 billions years old (i'll try to find some good links)...usually, yellow dwarfs have a lifespan of about 10 billion years, so we still have a good 5 billion years of existence to worry about things that WILL actually wipe us out as opposed to different sun cooling scenarios...like for instance, ourselves...here's to humanity wiping itself out sooner than later...

Indeed! Cheers!

Here's an amateurish site (gives the sun 5 billion years to live)
http://www.xs4all.nl/~mke/Sunburn.htm

Nasa astronomer Q&A site (4 billion years)
http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/a...s/961107a2.html

University of Columbia physics site (about 4.5 billion years)
http://www.columbia.edu/~ah297/unes...n-chapter5.html

Call me a Nerd, but in 4 billion years we'll either all be dead, or so spread out around the galaxy it'll be like Dune, where we can't even remember where our home planet was. I'm hoping for the second, because Dune is cool and David Lynch rules.


"He is the Kwizatz Haderach!" Tight.

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Originally posted by Shakka Yeah, except the moon doesn't really have any natural resources or atmosphere, and would surely be taken out with the Earth in the end. I mean, if humans are going to be a lasting race, they gotta start figuring out how to go intergalactically to start anew. (Perhaps an Adam and Eve...typical movie plot). It's easier to believe that little human-like planets are budding up and burning out all over the universe, at random, wherever such ideal conditions exist.

i was thinking about writing something (book deal!) using this idea. I told my english teacher and he said "o ya, just like Blade Runner." i've never seen the whole movie, i thought it was really really boring. but does it match up?

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Originally posted by NeoPhono Call me a Nerd, but in 4 billion years we'll either all be dead, or so spread out around the galaxy it'll be like Dune, where we can't even remember where our home planet was. I'm hoping for the second, because Dune is cool and David Lynch rules. "He is the Kwizatz Haderach!" Tight.

"MORE DEEP!"

2 words

Doomsday Comet

I think we will have plenty of time to live out any Halo-esque plans of space colonialization.

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Originally posted by Trancer-X Doomsday Comet

http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/cfa/ps/lists/Dangerous.html

With the current progression of things, scientists estimate that humans will deplete the world's resources within the next 100 years. Our most valuable resource, oil, will be depleted by 2040. The only way to reverse this process is intiate change now, for change of this magnitude takes generations. We see the results of this each year with the changing of the climate and the alteration of the natural landspace to a polluted wasteland.....It's rather sad too because rather than face these facts and deal with them, the US president feels that pumping valuable 'research' money into a war to secure even more oil is more important than finding real solutions. Next thing you know, Alaska will be artic landscape rich with oil wells....one small step for politics, one large leap for environmental devastation.

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Originally posted by zenperson With the current progression of things, scientists estimate that humans will deplete the world's resources within the next 100 years. Our most valuable resource, oil, will be depleted by 2040. The only way to reverse this process is intiate change now, for change of this magnitude takes generations. We see the results of this each year with the changing of the climate and the alteration of the natural landspace to a polluted wasteland.....It's rather sad too because rather than face these facts and deal with them, the US president feels that pumping valuable 'research' money into a war to secure even more oil is more important than finding real solutions. Next thing you know, Alaska will be artic landscape rich with oil wells....one small step the for politics, one large leap for environmental devastation.

So it's the U.S. fault that the current state of global affairs is where it is today? Funny, I don't see Germany developing any alternate sources of energy that would change the current state of things.

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Originally posted by Shakka So it's the U.S. fault that the current state of global affairs is where it is today? Funny, I don't see Germany developing any alternate sources of energy that would change the current state of things.

Um, but they are :

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Yet by the end of the 1990s, Germany had transformed itself into a renewable-energy leader. With a fraction of the wind and solar resources of the U.S., Germany now has almost three times as much installed wind capacity (38 percent of global capacity) and is a world leader in solar photovoltaics as well. And it has created a new, multibillion-dollar industry and tens of thousands of new jobs. The German wind industry now employs more people than nuclear power (an industry that provides 30 percent of the nation�s electricity) without a commensurate increase in electricity costs. Germany now generates 4.5 per cent of its electricity with the wind and appears on track to meet government targets of 25 per cent by 2025. The government also considers solar photovoltaics an option for future large-scale power generation. What�s more, the government recently pledged to reduce its carbon dioxide emissions to 40 percent below 1990 levels by 2020, much of this to be achieved by switching to renewable energy. Not quite the 60 percent many climate-change experts say is required worldwide, but vastly more impressive than commitments made thus far under the Kyoto Protocol.

http://www.mindfully.org/Energy/200...EnergyJun03.htm

Besides which, the US are more responsible for providing environmental solutions simply because they consume more resources than any other nation. If they want to use 25% of the world's resources then they're going to need to learn how to use them cleanly and efficiently, or else the rest of the world (including the US itself) is going to suffer for it.

Yep, the US has the single largest amount of carbon dioxide emissions in the world. However, SO2 emissions from the US and Europe have decreased.

But China needs to watch out for pollution with its recent economic boom. It's SO2 emissions have been rising steadily. Same with CO2.

The US also has the highest amount of cars, all needing to be used almost everyday (lack of public transportation). Plus with all those SUV's and Pick-ups, what do you expect. I'm not condoning it, just pointing that out.

It seems like the natural earth gas is catching on.

http://www.iangv.org/jaytech/default.php?PageID=130

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Originally posted by NeoPhono I'm hoping for the second, because Dune is cool and David Lynch rules.

Totally agree with you there!

"It's the end of the world as we know it, and i feel fine"

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Originally posted by albertoR "It's the end of the world as we know it, and i feel fine"

hmm, that must be the drugs talking

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