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Posted by Ian on Feb-26-2004 23:45:

Thrillseekers - Synaesthesia 2004 Confirmed including PULSER rmx....

Full Story http://www.ivibes.nu/index.php?article=2796

including

Steve Starts A New Label For His Own Productions

Adjusted Music will be the home for Steve's forthcoming projects. The first release will be the legendary Thrillseekers - Synaesthesia. With brand new mixes from Pulser and Steve himself.


one word - mint


Posted by AlphaStarred on Feb-27-2004 00:00:

wicked

btw, did you hear about Pulp Victim - The World 2004 recently being released on Playground Classix, a sub-label of Fundamental...
a side features Greg Murray rmx, while b side includes Moonman's Extended Reconstruction

never even knew about this as it seemingly wasn't mentioned...gotta check out teh samples if any are available

www.discogs.com


Posted by Haak on Feb-27-2004 00:04:

hmm


Posted by 8Wonders on Feb-27-2004 00:39:

Old news to some of us


Posted by DJ Dingel on Feb-27-2004 01:00:

The proliferation of recycling is a bad sign for the trance community... if this is all that we've got to offer, then I'm glad that I'm starting to get into progressive and breaks....

Haak! Go produce some more tunes and rescue trance


Posted by TeKnoHe@d2025 on Feb-27-2004 03:12:

Can't wait to hear this, great news!


Posted by Ian on Feb-27-2004 07:46:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Dingel
The proliferation of recycling is a bad sign for the trance community... if this is all that we've got to offer, then I'm glad that I'm starting to get into progressive and breaks....


To be fair if you'd heard steve's remake, it's as lovingly attentive as the original and unlike remakes such as the blue fear one, or lost tribe ones, I personally don't believe it takes anything away from the song.


quote:
Originally posted by DC-


Old news to some of us



I Actually did post on this a long time ago, I contacted Steve about it to get details & He let on that it was a work in progress, now it's a reality and It beats the endless 'where can i download' threads to have something constructive in here


Posted by bedrocking on Feb-27-2004 10:43:

Let it go. Really annoys me when people do this, the original is one of my all times faves and id like to be able to play it everynow and again as a classic track people would have forgotten about.


Posted by 24K on Feb-27-2004 14:12:

I love how people are already bitching about these new remixes, before they've even heard them.


Posted by thomas on Feb-27-2004 14:22:

why do they have to do the old tunes again
why oh why.. the original is so f**king great.


Posted by Ian on Feb-27-2004 15:32:

quote:
Originally posted by thomas
why do they have to do the old tunes again
why oh why.. the original is so f**king great.
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to be blatantly fair, look at tracks like age of love, cafe del mar etc, they've all had new remixes & stayed strong, don't see why synaesthesia cannot either, it already had pvd's lot & vocals added, so this is for fans of steve & andy a good chance to own new remixes from good producers


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Feb-27-2004 15:34:

quote:
Originally posted by 24K
I love how people are already bitching about these new remixes, before they've even heard them.




Actually Steve Helstrip played a much updated version of synaesthesia at Ferry's Concert and it added nothing (actually if anything it took that little something away) to the En-Motion and PvD Remixes. Synaesthesia will go down as one of the all time top classics in so many peoples eyes; remixes are just fucking pointless. Why do artists keep seeing the need to do this.


Posted by PlasticSoul on Feb-27-2004 15:52:

quote:
[i][b]Synaesthesia will go down as one of the all time top classics in so many peoples eyes; remixes are just fucking pointless. Why do artists keep seeing the need to do this.


Cus the Pulser remix always rocks"!!! And it will be the surprise heh in this re-release, heh"!!!


Posted by AlphaStarred on Feb-27-2004 15:56:

in any case im glad new remixes/remakes are made of Point Zero...i think the new ones sound better than the original imo, so sometimes it's all the better to re-release classic tracks


Posted by Ian on Feb-27-2004 16:05:

another example of it working - Wizards of the Sonic with Matt Dareys Remix


Posted by Scottaculous on Feb-27-2004 16:32:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Dingel
The proliferation of recycling is a bad sign for the trance community... if this is all that we've got to offer, then I'm glad that I'm starting to get into progressive and breaks....


Breaks are notorious for taking old tunes be it 70s, 80s, or trance and throwing a breakbeat behind it.

Where can I hear the new remixes?


Posted by DJ Dingel on Feb-27-2004 16:39:

I like the breaks remixes of Xpander, Age of Love, etc. That's different than the "2004 remake with some new synths" that were done to Gamemaster and other classic tunes. It's fine to take an old trance tune and turn it into breaks, or to take an old rock song and rework it (Teen Spirit Seven Nation Army), or to take an old track and make it into a trancer. But to take something and say "Hey, this was big in '99, here it is with synths from five years later!" is getting lame...

I disgree on Point Zero. I think that the original was the best, and while Kuffdam's remix is pretty good, it can't top the original. The other remixes just make the track ugly.


Posted by AlphaStarred on Feb-27-2004 16:49:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Dingel
I disgree on Point Zero. I think that the original was the best, and while Kuffdam's remix is pretty good, it can't top the original. The other remixes just make the track ugly.


Kuffdam's rmx is indeed nice but you don't like Darey's remake or leama and moor's rmx?? what about the digital blonde's rmx? i personally think the latter is one of their best productions...just hear how crazy the crowd goes in Fleming's Coloursfest set when he drops it


Posted by Scottaculous on Feb-27-2004 17:27:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Dingel
I like the breaks remixes of Xpander, Age of Love, etc. That's different than the "2004 remake with some new synths" that were done to Gamemaster and other classic tunes. It's fine to take an old trance tune and turn it into breaks, or to take an old rock song and rework it (Teen Spirit Seven Nation Army), or to take an old track and make it into a trancer. But to take something and say "Hey, this was big in '99, here it is with synths from five years later!" is getting lame...


Ever code? As a software engineer, I�m always disgusted when I look back at old code of mine because as I learn more the way I write code changes. Producing is very much the same way. I bet Steve or any other producer for that matter looked back at their old works and thought he could refine the track using better production techniques. Yes it�s not very musically original but from a production stand point it�s likely superior.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Feb-27-2004 18:52:

Thumbs down

$$$$


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Feb-27-2004 18:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Scottaculous
Ever code? As a software engineer, I�m always disgusted when I look back at old code of mine because as I learn more the way I write code changes. Producing is very much the same way. I bet Steve or any other producer for that matter looked back at their old works and thought he could refine the track using better production techniques. Yes it�s not very musically original but from a production stand point it�s likely superior.

You haven't seen Mona Lisa getting an update every 5 years, have you?

Remaking old tunes is always about the money. No exceptions, no matter what they say about "artistic need to update it" or any other crap.


Posted by GrimReaper on Feb-27-2004 19:14:

I dunno if Synaesthesia really needs an update. Its good as it is.

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
You haven't seen Mona Lisa getting an update every 5 years, have you?

Remaking old tunes is always about the money. No exceptions, no matter what they say about "artistic need to update it" or any other crap.

I totally agree with Mystery here. There is no need for new versions if the old version is already a perfect classic. It's getting absolutely ridiculous with all these updates/remakes/remixes which seem to increase every year. I really don't understand why do all the big names suddenly want to remake their past hits.. it seems money has become way too big of an goal to achieve for them. There comes like 100+ new versions of old tracks out every year. Doesn't look too promising.


Posted by starglider on Feb-27-2004 20:02:

Case in point: Armin closed his essential mix with the original mix of Point Zero (from 1994 mind you) and it didn't seem out of place in the least. Hardly needs "updating" then does it?

The problem with these new remixes is most of the time all they do is throw the artist's latest presets on top of the old track. Ferry Corsten's "Second Edition" of Out Of The Blue is a prime example, which saw release on the b-side of Solstice. It's exactly the same as the original -- only problem is by smoothing out all the rough edges he also removed all the drive and urgency from the track.

If you're going to take on an old classic, at least do something different with it! Give us a reason to play your new mix instead of just going back to the original. Plastic Angel did a great job remixing Greece 2000 last year and I'd say it's one of the better mixes. These kind of updates are great and I see no harm in them, but enough with the "second editions"!


Posted by Peter K on Feb-27-2004 22:46:

cool, i love synaesthesia. can't wait for this.. tho i don't know how much more it can be improved..


Posted by Syeker on Feb-28-2004 02:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
You haven't seen Mona Lisa getting an update every 5 years, have you?

Remaking old tunes is always about the money. No exceptions, no matter what they say about "artistic need to update it" or any other crap.


I wouldn't say that. Is good to make remixes of an old tune once in a while just to see how much have you improved. Eventhough i think Synestesia is PERFECT and Steve Helstrip should leave it as it is. Hear Mudbloods remix for Flaming June well... it sucked but hear Veracocha - Carte Blanche (Ronald van Gelderen Remix) (which is a lot better than the remixes that came in that time).


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