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Got a letter from Bush !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Americans will face a clear choice in the upcoming presidential election.

President Bush has a record of historic achievement and a positive vision for the years ahead - for winning the war against terror, extending peace and freedom throughout our world, and creating jobs and opportunity here at home.

John Kerry has a record of raising taxes, cutting defense spending, and plans for new regulations and more litigation that would make America less safe and send our nation back to the tired, failed policies of the past.

Kerry has repeatedly voted to cut funding for defense and intelligence, voted to cancel the very weapons systems that are winning the war on terror and maintaining our military strength, and he has voted against common-sense tax relief like the marriage penalty and the death tax.

As President Bush has said, "On issue after issue, the American people have a clear choice" in this election.

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NO TO BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Got a letter from Bush !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lol. How did Bush win the war on terror:

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Originally posted by hardstyle President Bush has a record of historic achievement and a positive vision for the years ahead - for winning the war against terror, extending peace and freedom throughout our world, and creating jobs and opportunity here at home.

and yet the war is still going on?

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...voted to cancel the very weapons systems that are winning the war on terror...

i dunno, i just found that funny

uhm

when they sent this letter to me , they probbly thought im brainwashed and belive whatever Bush says

uhm

also they asked me to donate money to help the election campaign

hasnt he raised over 120 million dollars to his comapaign?? more than any other candidate ever in the history of USA?? peace and freedom huh?

theres at least one attack in irak every week, osama bin laden is still out there, weapons of mass destruction are still yet to be found, and islamic terrorists have only gotten smacks on the hand. i see no hardcore spankings, or punches in the face.

other than that, if i was 18, i would vote for bush. we've become the number 1 most hated country in the world under his administration.

one more thing, i believe bush has the best of intentions. he cant be THAT bad of a guy. he has good morals i think. he just doesnt know how to run a country...it would have been better if he stayed gov. of texas

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Originally posted by Heinz he has good morals i think.

So supporting abstinence campaigns in Africa that invariably result in the death involves good morals?

Killing thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians, then justifying it with "God told me to" involves good morals?

Discriminating against people on the basis of their sexual orientation involves good morals?

Come on, you've been having too much Zionist mustard of late!

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So supporting abstinence campaigns in Africa that invariably result in the death involves good morals? Killing thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians, then justifying it with "God told me to" involves good morals? Discriminating against people on the basis of their sexual orientation involves good morals? Come on, you've been having too much Zionist mustard of late!

lol, i was just saying, he had the best of intentions. taking out an oppressive dictator, and all. he just doesnt think about the implications of his best of intentions

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Originally posted by arctic So supporting abstinence campaigns in Africa that invariably result in the death involves good morals?

Hey,we're helping Africa right now. Abstinence is good for a person, it doesn't kill people,it's what keeps people alive.

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Killing thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians, then justifying it with "God told me to" involves good morals?

No,he isn't killing thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians. FYI Unfortunatly, death is a part of war, Military personell and civilians.

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Discriminating against people on the basis of their sexual orientation involves good morals? Come on, you've been having too much Zionist mustard of late!

He's not. You obviously have your head in a hole int he ground.

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LOL it's sad how gullible some people are, and some I'm sure don't read the papers and will probably fall for this stuff.

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Originally posted by hardstyle President Bush has a record of historic achievement

The greatest American jobs loss record since Herbert Hoover in the 1930s; the largest budget deficit in history in terms of sheer numeric value; preemptive war; drilling, mining, and clear-cutting in National Parks, preserves, and forests previously set aside as wilderness; endorsement of writing discrimination into the US Constitution for the first time ever to make millions of people second class citizens permanently.

Historic indeed.

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and a positive vision for the years ahead

What planet is he living on? If NASA needs a test chimp for the planned mission to Mars, I know of a good candidate.

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for winning the war against terror,

By causing Al Queda's ranks to swell and leading approval % figures of the US in the Arab world to fall to single digits?

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extending peace and freedom throughout our world,

One cluster bomb at a time

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and creating jobs and opportunity here at home.

At WalMart and McDonalds.

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cutting defense spending, Kerry has repeatedly voted to cut funding for defense and intelligence, voted to cancel the very weapons systems that are winning the war on terror and maintaining our military strength,

Early in his career he opposed some of Reagan's military spending, particularly a type of nuclear missile and his idiotic "star wars" thing. Oh, and Kerry was right about the B2 bomber.

But later in his career, since about 1996 he voted for almost every major military expenditure:

http://www.factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=147


Based on the first Bush's record, you could also say he endorsed "gutting intelligence and the military" etc etc.

Some of the Republican attack is legit criticism, but much is fabrication.

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and send our nation back to the tired, failed policies of the past.

Like Bill Clinton's huge budget surplus, stock market highs, and 20+ million new jobs created? I wish we had more of those kinds of �failures� now.

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and he has voted against common-sense tax relief like the marriage penalty and the death tax.

I can't verify if he voted against the marriage penalty tax, but the Democratic platform is to make that tax cut permanent. As for the "death tax," that�s just an example of an emotion-loaded name the Republicans give things to give them a negative connotation. A similar example would be �partial birth abortion.�

The death tax is not a tax on death, but is a tax on estates valued in the multi-millions of dollars range. It only applies to a few hundred estates in the whole country.

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As President Bush has said, "On issue after issue, the American people have a clear choice" in this election.

LOL.

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Wednesday, January 21, 2004 Bush Has the Worst Job Creation Record Since The Great Depression During President George W. Bush's State of the Union address last night, he boasted that the economy was strong and that his tax cuts were resulting in job growth. In view of the continuing high unemployment in America, one must wonder whether the President was trying to make a lemon taste like lemonade or whether this was just one more attempt to deceive the public. The president's portrayal of the state of the economy and the employment situation bear little resemblance to the facts. Not since Herbert Hoover, during the Great Depression of the 1930s, has any president had such a dismal record on job creation. There are 2.3 million fewer jobs in America today than when President George W. Bush took office. With a growing population, the economy must create additional jobs each and every year. If it fails to do so, unemployment will rise and the standard of living will decline. With the kind of record Bush has on job creation, it is a wonder that he even raised the subject during an election year, let alone boasting about it. When Bill Clinton took office in January 1993, 109.7 million Americans were employed. By the end of Clinton's first term that number had risen by more than 11 million to a total employment of 121.0 million. During Clinton's second term, an additional 11 million jobs were created. Thus, Bill Clinton added more than 22 million jobs to the American economy and during his last year in office the average annual unemployment rate was 3.9 percent--the lowest in 30 years. Thus the number of Americans employed increased by more than 22 million during the Clinton presidency and has declined by 2.3 million during the George W. Bush presidency. The American people and the American economy have suffered miserably under President George W. Bush. Yet he managed to keep a straight face when he gave his own erroneous appraisal of the state of the economy last night. Allen W. Smith, Ph.D.

God helps us all if another Bush ever gets elected, and they still have a bunch more of them.

My clear choice is not Bush.

now if i could vote...

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Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487 Hey,we're helping Africa right now. Abstinence is good for a person, it doesn't kill people,it's what keeps people alive.

Hey, if you define killing people as helping them, then I'm not going to argue with that.

Abstinence will never work, if you think that abstinence is a realistic goal, then there's something seriously wrong with you. In the west there's no need for it, sex is a healthy thing. As for Africa, whilst it would indeed help stop AIDS, it isn't going to happen.

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No,he isn't killing thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians.

www.iraqbodycount.net

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FYI Unfortunatly, death is a part of war, Military personell and civilians.

Really? How on earth did you manage to work that one out? Outstanding!

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You obviously have your head in a hole int he ground.

Irony levels unbearable!

anybody but bush 2005.

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Originally posted by arctic Hey, if you define killing people as helping them, then I'm not going to argue with that.

Hey, remember you are talking to Nelly. If they die they will go to heaven and all their problems will magically dissapear.

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Originally posted by priveye03 Hey, remember you are talking to Nelly. If they die they will go to heaven and all their problems will magically dissapear.

Incorrect, sir. They are likely Muslim, which means they reject God

(remember, God = Christianity)

So even though they were completely innocent, and even though it was OUR bombs that blew their intestines out, decapitated little children's heads, and tore Grandma's limbs clean off, they are heathens regardless and are not really innocent per se. So who cares really? We didn't have time to proselytize them to Christianity, and they're just going to hell regardless.

Sooo, oh well!

I stand corrected.

hardstyle what did you write in the first place and what did you write in reply?

uhm

The first reply was the letter what i got from bush , and my replies was be against the letter

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Originally posted by ViolentNature anybody but bush 2005.

Go Nader!

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Originally posted by arctic Hey, if you define killing people as helping them, then I'm not going to argue with that. Abstinence will never work, if you think that abstinence is a realistic goal, then there's something seriously wrong with you. In the west there's no need for it, sex is a healthy thing. As for Africa, whilst it would indeed help stop AIDS, it isn't going to happen.

I never said sex is unhealthy,did I? Sex is a healthy thing within marriage. Not with every tom,dick and harry.

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www.iraqbodycount.net

I'm not denying that civilians have died. But, Bush isn't going in and sweeping them all out like everyone seems to think. There will be civilian deaths, it's not pretty, but it happens.

We didn't go in to kill civilians,and we've done a pretty dang good job avoiding them.

The American people voted in Bush because they were disgusted and embarrassed with his predecesor. We're looking at America's role as a superpower this time.


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Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487 I never said sex is unhealthy,did I? Sex is a healthy thing within marriage.

Unsupported assertion. Since marriage is a man made institution, I can't see how sex outside of marriage is necessarily any different to sex within it.

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dick

Doesn't that word offend Jebus?

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I'm not denying that civilians have died. But, Bush isn't going in and sweeping them all out like everyone seems to think. There will be civilian deaths, it's not pretty, but it happens. We didn't go in to kill civilians,and we've done a pretty dang good job avoiding them.

Yes, civilians have died. Good, finally we agree on something. Yes, it does happen, as a direct result of the Bush administration's war on terror.

You don't seem to realize exactly how many Iraqi's have died as a direct result of 'Operation Iraqi Freedom'. Once again, go to www.iraqbodycount.net, and look at the figure. If you define that as a 'pretty damn good job of avoiding them', then there's something seriously wrong with you.

I never claimed that the Coalition invaded Iraq to explicitly kill Iraqi civilians, but they knew that thousands of deaths would result. I hold the view that the US invaded for economic/strategic reasons, but that really doesn't matter in the long run. What does matter is the fact that they lied about their motives for invading Iraq, and because of this, thousands of people are dead.

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Originally posted by arctic Abstinence will never work, if you think that abstinence is a realistic goal, then there's something seriously wrong with you. In the west there's no need for it, sex is a healthy thing. As for Africa, whilst it would indeed help stop AIDS, it isn't going to happen.

China has a better solution than abstinence anyways.

India however is out of control and they have no clue how to properly manage a society in this matter. Remember, when a government fails to manage properly, the people lose.

Edit : Referring to overpopulation mainly, AIDS is called USE A CONDOM

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Originally posted by arctic Unsupported assertion. Since marriage is a man made institution, I can't see how sex outside of marriage is necessarily any different to sex within it.

Marriage isn't man made. Even if it was, sexual relations outside of marriage still isn't safe.

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Doesn't that word offend Jebus?

It's a nickname for Richard,get your mind out of the gutter.

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Yes, civilians have died. Good, finally we agree on something. Yes, it does happen, as a direct result of the Bush administration's war on terror.

Let me tell you something,if you didn't already know.
Saddam was killing his OWN people. We went in so that could stop.
Yes, civilians were killed in the war. But, that was totally not on purpose. It's happened in every war.

If you want to talk about killing Civilians,what about when Clinton had the cruise missle sent off, and hit and Asprin Factory?

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You don't seem to realize exactly how many Iraqi's have died as a direct result of 'Operation Iraqi Freedom'. Once again, go to www.iraqbodycount.net, and look at the figure. If you define that as a 'pretty damn good job of avoiding them', then there's something seriously wrong with you.

Remind me, What happened on 9/11? What about those 3,000 civilians?

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I never claimed that the Coalition invaded Iraq to explicitly kill Iraqi civilians, but they knew that thousands of deaths would result. I hold the view that the US invaded for economic/strategic reasons, but that really doesn't matter in the long run. What does matter is the fact that they lied about their motives for invading Iraq, and because of this, thousands of people are dead.

They never lied about anything.

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Originally posted by arctic You don't seem to realize exactly how many Iraqi's have died as a direct result of 'Operation Iraqi Freedom'. Once again, go to www.iraqbodycount.net, and look at the figure. If you define that as a 'pretty damn good job of avoiding them', then there's something seriously wrong with you.

Iraq war 1: 2,000 to 3,500source

Sept 11: 3000
source

Afghanistan war: 3,000 - 3,400 [October 7, 2001 thru March 2002] civilian deaths.
source

Iraq war 2: 8,400-13,000
source

considering this, i do think that Nellie was right in saying that america did its best to avoid civilian casualties, which are after all inevitable.

when comparing gulf war 2, an invasion and occupation war, the numbers look anticipated when compared to more ariel attack wars such as gulf war 1 and the afghan war. to put this more into presepective, dont forget that germany and russia had millions of civilian deaths in WW2. The korean war caused about 1.5 million civ deaths and vietnam was also around 1 or 2 million.

talking about civilian casualites, when you compare american tactics to those of other countries in their wars forget about it. can you think of how many civilians died in the iran/iraq war? how about Congo, Chechneya, East Timor? all i promise are above this war.

The US definetly deserves some respect for the military practices it holds in trying to minimize as best as possible civilian deaths.

Thank you,Izzy.

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