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Buying MP3s in online shops like Yo****oshi

So it's finally here and I know that it has already been discussed in other threads, but I'm still not yet sure of this (yes I've searched).
- So if one of the big problems of the MP3s are the fact that most can be obtained illegally, how can you go to a club and prove that all your music was "paid" for? you'll show your e-mail receipts? please
- Also, Yoshitoshi is serving them @ 192kps, according to most of the people this will sound bad in big sound systems right? Then why is it that I'm almost sure that top DJs use it and no one notices? Is it just because they prolly run them on software "enhancers"?
I think it's a great idea and all, to have them on CD-R and pay tribute to the artist at the same time, but if 192kps aren't enough, than I guess I'll stick to vinyl as most DJs will. But can anyone help me out with these questions?
'Cos if this sticks I'm pretty sure everyone will sell at least one of their 1200s to swap for CDJs and the other one will be only for ripping onto cd in the long-term (not intending to start another vinyl vs cd discussion here )

haha funny did the forums censor SHIT or did u do that yourself?

lol it was the forums, weird stuff I was like wtf

I use FS and i'd be happy to buy .WAV files from labels if they sell them...but to be buying 192 kbps?? I don't think so...

Hahaha that's great, it censored out the "shit" in "yoSHIToshi"

And I gotta agree with Narcissus, it's either good quality or no deal.

FUnny how it didn't censor shit in the posts but i guesss only in thread topics

192 ORIGINAL not copied vers. of songs have much higher quality than you might think.

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Originally posted by Zombie0729 192 ORIGINAL not copied vers. of songs have much higher quality than you might think.

that's my doubt, I bought some MP3s from Kismet once and they are great, thing is I have no idea of how they'd sound on a big sound system.

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Originally posted by benoitfan - Also, Yoshitoshi is serving them @ 192kps, according to most of the people this will sound bad in big sound systems right?

i never heard something like that, as a matter of fact, i play a lot of cd's out on big systems and most of the mbeen encoded at 192 and i never heard anyone complain aout its qulaity nor anyone noticed the difference between cd and vinyl

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Originally posted by CKYTEP i never heard something like that, as a matter of fact, i play a lot of cd's out on big systems and most of the mbeen encoded at 192 and i never heard anyone complain aout its qulaity nor anyone noticed the difference between cd and vinyl

I was influenced by this thread
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...3&highlight=mp3

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Originally posted by CKYTEP i never heard something like that, as a matter of fact, i play a lot of cd's out on big systems and most of the mbeen encoded at 192 and i never heard anyone complain aout its qulaity nor anyone noticed the difference between cd and vinyl

It's not always about what you hear.... but what you feel. I know I notice if someone plays a dubplate on some of the soudsystems I work with... CDs are easy to spot and MP3s sound shite.

What really pisses me off about all this is that people are more concerned with trying to see how far they can reduce the sound quality of music before people find it offensive rather than focusing on giving a high quality performance with rich sound.

We are given so much shit from the media about the quality of this that and the other but you have to look at who is selling and who is buying.
MP3s are ok I guess for consumer use but they are a load of wank for DJ use.

Someone also mentioned that the MP3 deteriorates if it's not the original coding... that's not correct. It's data... it will always be 0's and 1's. If bits go missing then the file is corrupted and useless. You don't get that gradual degradation in sound like you do from cassettes for example.

Then you get someone who says... "But what do you have against progress". The answer is nothing... but MP3s are not progress. They are cheapening the artform! Hunting down that illusive track wont be an issue. A DJ will be able to have the same track selection as the next guy. Then people say, "Yeah but then more emphasis will be placed on what you do with it". But the point is... having that illusive track that people want to hear is part of being a DJ. Your records are your weapons, you should pride yourself on having tools that others don't and look to be original (perhaps that's the old hip hop DJ in me). Naturally your skills are important.

The problem these days is that people are just not prepared to pay their dues. I meet so many bedroom DJs who often think that just having the records and a crowd and they would be able to rock the place, but there are so many nuances it's unreal.

MP3s are complete YoShitoshi... But sadly we will accept them in time just like J Lo and P Diddy have been accepted by the masses and your less educated even think they represent hip hop.. Just as they think Sammy is trance.

Just another Nem anti MP3 rant...

Cheers
Nem

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Originally posted by Nemesis44 It's not always about what you hear.... but what you feel. I know I notice if someone plays a dubplate on some of the soudsystems I work with... CDs are easy to spot and MP3s sound shite. What really pisses me off about all this is that people are more concerned with trying to see how far they can reduce the sound quality of music before people find it offensive rather than focusing on giving a high quality performance with rich sound. We are given so much shit from the media about the quality of this that and the other but you have to look at who is selling and who is buying. MP3s are ok I guess for consumer use but they are a load of wank for DJ use. Someone also mentioned that the MP3 deteriorates if it's not the original coding... that's not correct. It's data... it will always be 0's and 1's. If bits go missing then the file is corrupted and useless. You don't get that gradual degradation in sound like you do from cassettes for example. Then you get someone who says... "But what do you have against progress". The answer is nothing... but MP3s are not progress. They are cheapening the artform! Hunting down that illusive track wont be an issue. A DJ will be able to have the same track selection as the next guy. Then people say, "Yeah but then more emphasis will be placed on what you do with it". But the point is... having that illusive track that people want to hear is part of being a DJ. Your records are your weapons, you should pride yourself on having tools that others don't and look to be original (perhaps that's the old hip hop DJ in me). Naturally your skills are important. The problem these days is that people are just not prepared to pay their dues. I meet so many bedroom DJs who often think that just having the records and a crowd and they would be able to rock the place, but there are so many nuances it's unreal. MP3s are complete YoShitoshi... But sadly we will accept them in time just like J Lo and P Diddy have been accepted by the masses and your less educated even think they represent hip hop.. Just as they think Sammy is trance. Just another Nem anti MP3 rant... Cheers Nem

Another quality rant, as usual from you
My point with this thread was not to start this sort of war. I love spinning vinyl and I can distinguish it well from CDs but my point was more the difference between a professional 192 kps rip (like Kismet does for instance) and a normal cd-single, not vinyl. I love to go vinyl-hunting and the internet is a real powerful tool in this process (IDing, getting more information, searching for shops) but after watching Zabiela this last saturday over here, I noticed that ppl couldn't care less if he was spinning CDs or vinyl, and IMO it's easier to put a solid performance mixing CDs (you have less odds of a needle skip, bad turntable etc) as it has a digital pitch and (there is a visual display, making it easier to mix compared to turntables). CDs are also lighter but carrying the vinyl bag is part of the "magic".
My point was more money-wise as all my allowance goes to vinyl but I could get like the triple of the tracks if each mp3 download was something like �2. I'd still buy vinyl for the tracks I really love 'cos I find it really unpersonnal just to have a cd-r with some labelling in it, but my point was solely to understand if this new direction is a valid one or not. Because if the record stores are starting to support this, I assume that's because that's where we will go next. After watching Zabiela and Steve Parry I though vinyl was dead TBH, and most artists (like PvD) like to enhance their tracks running them through studios etc to perfect the bassline, making it even more personnal.
So while in one way it is true that you say that everyone will have the same tracks, on the other hand each good DJ will have the ability to distinguish himself with the same tracks, by adding editing them, adding their bassline, etc, and as technology grows we go towards flawless mixing, not a bad thing as long as it will still take skill to get there. While I love my vinyl, I'm very afraid that it does become a 2nd choice. We know that "vinyl never died, it won't be now" but I think the situation is different now, one thing is to get vinyl because only very mainstream tracks are out on CD-S, the other is to have a wide range of releases and choose between the vinyl or the cheaper MP3 version but with the same quality as a CD-S.
Hope I make myself clear, ran a little long

Just an update: release records have just finished uploading their MP3 download site too, they are 256ks, and rather cheap, I bought some just to try it out, looks promising each release is around 40 mb

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Originally posted by benoitfan Just an update: release records have just finished uploading their MP3 download site too, they are 256ks, and rather cheap, I bought some just to try it out, looks promising each release is around 40 mb

40 megs for a single song ? At 256k ? Somethings a bit wrong there... I record my mixes in 320k, and half an hour is 80, so that means something is f'ed up, or I just read the post wrong

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Originally posted by `pr0digy 40 megs for a single song ? At 256k ? Somethings a bit wrong there... I record my mixes in 320k, and half an hour is 80, so that means something is f'ed up, or I just read the post wrong

each release is usually 2 tracks, so that's why each track I bought is around 9 to 10 mins too, so makes sense

and then they repress all of your 'illusive tracks', and you say fine, how much is that cdj in the window =/

-harley

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