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Mel Gibsons father is a NAZI!
> Mitch Albom on Mel Gibson and his father
>
> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 11:06:44 -0500
>
> BY MITCH ALBOM DETROIT FREE PRESS COLUMNIST
> My sister married a wonderful guy. His father was a Hungarian Jew. During
> World War II, he and his eight brothers and sisters were imprisoned in
Nazi
> concentration camps. Some were killed in gas chambers. Others were put on
a
> boat that was deliberately sunk. By the war's end, my brother-in-law's
> father was the only one left.
> For years, his wife would find bread stuffed under his pillow, a habit
from
> Nazi starvation. Every now and then some nut case says the Holocaust was
> faked. Usually, you dismiss him as pathetic.
> Last week, however, a man named Hutton Gibson told a national radio host
> that the Holocaust never happened, that there were no concentration camps,
> only "work camps," and that Jews basically made the whole thing up. Hutton
> Gibson is Mel Gibson's father. So this nut case must be addressed.
> From Auschwitz to Brooklyn?
> He must be addressed because his son has made a movie called "The Passion
of
> the Christ" depicting Jesus' last hours. There are fears the movie will
> stoke anti-Semitism. I have not seen the film yet -- it opens this week --
> so I can pass no judgment on it. But I have heard his father. And he needs
> no movie to spew hatred. Jews "are after one world religion and one world
> government" Hutton Gibson declared. He said Federal Reserve Chairman Alan
> Greenspan, who is Jewish, should be hung. He said Holocaust museums were
"a
> gimmick to collect money." In fact, he called the entire Holocaust
> "fiction." He said Jews weren't killed, "they simply got up and left! They
> were all over the Bronx and Brooklyn and Sydney and Los Angeles. They have
> to . . . go where's there's money."
> That would be news to my brother-in-law's aunt, another Holocaust
survivor
> who, thanks to Nazi experiments, was left sterile, unable to have
children.
> She still bears a Nazi number burned into her arm. I suppose Hutton Gibson
> would call that "a tattoo she got in the Bronx."
> Now the elder Gibson is not new to this stuff. He writes books and
magazine
> articles denying the Holocaust and scorching the Jewish faith. And I am
not
> saying Mel Gibson believes what his father does. But he needs to say so
> himself. A time for action instead, to date, Gibson has refused to fully
> refute his father. He acknowledges the Holocaust, but says, "Nothing can
> drive a wedge between me and my blood. He's my father. I love him."
> That's fine. But denying hatred does not cancel love. By his own doing,
> Gibson has put himself on a stage where he has new obligations. He's not
> promoting a "Lethal Weapon" movie here, where he's a crazed cop who swears
> and drinks and sleeps with women (all pretty non-Christian stuff, by the
> way). No. He has made a deeply religious movie, a lightning rod for
> Christians and Jews, one he claims was inspired by his faith, including
> "going back to the things I was raised with." One presumes his father did
> some of that raising. Mel Gibson insists he is not anti-Semitic. He can
> prove it by declaring his father's words are wrong. How would Gibson feel
if
> his father had been gassed, shot or hung in Auschwitz or Dachau, instead
of
> his luckier fate, enjoying a good, long life hurling insults at others?
> The reason Nazism existed is because people lived in denial. If you visit
> the site of concentration camps today, you will be astounded by how close
> neighborhoods were to the gates. Yet no one did anything -- even as
innocent
> people were murdered a stone's throw away. No one asked Mel Gibson to
become
> a spokesman on faith. He did that himself. Now that he has hopped on
center
> stage, he can't simply hear what he wants. He has an obligation to
publicly
> shoot down his father's words. After all, Gibson said he made his movie
> because he could no longer deny his faith.
> Imagine someone denying your existence.
...but no, this movie was made solely for his "faith" -- I never knew anti-semetism was its own religion! 
lollers
melech_mike is also a nazi 
!
mel doesnt have a good relationship with his father because of issues surrounding their different values. He talked about it on an interview with Diane Soyer.
So what does Mel Gibsons father being a nazi have to do with Mel Gibson?
The movie he directed is not anti-semetic.
How can it be anti-semetic? It doesn't have anything in there about hating Jews.
Jesus put himself to death, he chose to be the sacrifical lamb, so that we could all be reunited with God. Don't you all understand that?
Mel's father said that Jews weren't killed in the Holocaust, they simply got up and left --this sounds somewhat familiar. Oh right, 1948, Palestinians weren't killed and driven out, they simply got up and left, right.
feel our pain, Illan.
erm, I already said i saw no anti-semetism in this movie. just to back me up, my friend today after class, said he used to be catholic and got inspired from the movie. he is now less, probably zero, anti-semetic.
also arnold's dad is nazi, yet he doesnt put every jew in cali in ovens 
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| Originally posted by Palestinian Mel's father said that Jews weren't killed in the Holocaust, they simply got up and left --this sounds somewhat familiar. Oh right, 1948, Palestinians weren't killed and driven out, they simply got up and left, right. feel our pain, Illan. |
Just because he denies the Holocaust and thinks the Jews are evil doesn't make him a Nazi. Nazi was a party in Germany... Until he says, I am a member of the SDAP, then he isn't a nazi, just a close-minded crazy traditionalist Christian.
To rizen, well, I had a friend that watched it and was out-raged about how the jews were portrayed. Also the adl (www.adl.org) says otherwise.
wow, this is such an iggnorant thread. If your gonna talk like this, be politicaly correct, exspeciialy since its in the Politics/debate forum....ITS ANTI-SEMETIC not Nazi. THE Nazi's where a political party in Germany during the 30s and 40s
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| Originally posted by Tranceporter99 wow, this is such an iggnorant thread. If your gonna talk like this, be politicaly correct, exspeciialy since its in the Politics/debate forum....ITS ANTI-SEMETIC not Nazi. THE Nazi's where a political party in Germany during the 30s and 40s |
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| Originally posted by dj_ilan_yosef No I dont... refer to this thread Naziboy: |
why does this topic keep coming up?
Just throw up a poll and see how many TAs believe that the holocaust was real or not. Im willing to bet itll be a SWEEPING lead in favour of believe. In which case, if there are 5 ppl on the whole board who dont believe in it, why are we addressing it as an issue? They wont make a difference.
Because of recent outcries from the Jewish community, EVERYONE's been curious to see the movie. Its not because the movie is an alltime epic, but just because it has so much controversy surrounding it. If there wasnt that big of an outcry by the Jewish community, then not a whole lot of ppl would have seen it, and in which case, the so called claimed "anti semetic" msges wouldnt have been spread. People are making something out of nothing really, I saw the movie..thought it was good but nothing I would recommend, and I dont dislike jewish ppl more because of the movie.
I saw the movie twice now and I think it's beautiful and inspiring. and like razmataz said : mel gibson is a good actor, good director, many people like his movies and others don't, end of goddamn story.
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| Originally posted by Palestinian I saw the movie twice now and I think it's beautiful and inspiring. and like razmataz said : mel gibson is a good actor, good director, many people like his movies and others don't, end of goddamn story. |
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| Originally posted by rizen The Patriot sucked |
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| Originally posted by Shakka So did Signs, What Women Want, Payback, Lethal Weapon III and IV, Conspiracy Theory, Forever Young, and Air America. |
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| Originally posted by Shakka So did Signs, What Women Want, Payback, Lethal Weapon III and IV, Conspiracy Theory, Forever Young, and Air America. |
Though Braveheart was one of the best movies ever...
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| Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487 Jesus put himself to death, he chose to be the sacrifical lamb, so that we could all be reunited with God. Don't you all understand that? |
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