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Mars Once "Soaking Wet"
Enough religion bashing for now 
NASA: Liquid water once on Mars
Evidence red planet was once 'soaking wet'
By Marsha Walton
CNN
Tuesday, March 2, 2004 Posted: 3:30 PM EST (2030 GMT)
(CNN) -- Mission accomplished.
NASA scientists say the Mars rovers have found what they were looking for -- hard evidence that the red planet was once "soaking wet."
"We have concluded the rocks here were once soaked in liquid water," said Steve Squyres of Cornell University. He's the principal investigator for the science instruments on Opportunity and its twin rover, Spirit.
"The second question we've tried to answer: Were these rocks altered by liquid water? We believe definitively, yes," Squyres said.
Squyres and other NASA officials made the announcement at NASA headquarters in Washington, after several days of giving tantalizing hints that something significant had been discovered.
"Three and a half years ago, in July 2000, we were on stage here to talk about sending two rovers to get evidence of past water. NASA and its international partners have turned those dreams to reality," said Ed Weiler, NASA associate administrator for space science.
Scientists used instruments on board the golf cart-sized rovers to study the composition of the rocks and soil on the planet. The rocks' physical appearance, plus the detection of sulfates, make the case for a watery history, and more important, an environment that could have been hospitable to life.
While reporters pushed the scientists to come up with a "when" for the existence of water on Mars, Squyres said it was very difficult to infer an age simply by looking at pictures. He said a physical examination of samples would be the only way to to get close to a time frame.
Squyres did offer a couple of scenarios on what might have happened that led to the current discoveries:
One is that there was a volcanic eruption, possibly many eruptions, and volcanic ash settled out onto the Martian surface. Subsequently, water could have percolated through the ground, altering the ash to the chemical composition it has today.
Another possibility, said Squyres, is that there was a salty sea at the Meridiani Planum location, perhaps with currents, possibly even waves. As the water evaporated, the salt would settle out.
"Both are fundamentally possible," said Squyres. "But we may never know."
Spirit and Opportunity were sent to opposite sides of the planet with the possibility of investigating different types of terrain. Spirit, the first rover to arrive on January 3, landed near the Gusev Crater, which may once have held a lake.
But geologists and other researchers at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California, were thrilled when they saw the possibilities surrounding Opportunity, which landed three weeks later. It landed inside a small crater in the Meridiani Planum, one of the flattest places on the planet. And its landing site was within driving distance for the spacecraft to reach an exposed slice of bedrock.
Since its landing January 25, Opportunity has used the same tools as a human field geologist would to determine the chemical contents of the rocks. Using an alpha particle X-ray spectrometer, a device that can identify chemical elements, scientists have identified a high concentration of sulfur in the bedrock.
The Mars rover Opportunity examines an area dubbed "El Capitan."
Another instrument on board, a Moessbauer spectrometer, has detected an iron sulfate mineral known as jarosite. From their knowledge of rocks on earth, scientists say rocks with as much salt as this Mars rock either formed in water, or had a long exposure to water after they were formed. The scientists say these rocks could have formed in an acidic lake or even a hot springs.
Scientists say the case for a watery past is further strengthened by the pictures taken by the rovers' panoramic cameras and its microscopic imager. One target rock, named "El Capitan," is filled with random pockmarks. Geologists say a texture like that comes from sites where salt crystals have formed in rocks that have sat in salt water.
Scientists say they have gained other clues from the physical appearance of the rocks. They see a pattern called "crossbedding," which is often the result of wind or water moving across the rock's surface.
So what is ahead for the final few weeks of the rovers' operations on Mars?
"We need to take a close look at the outcropping, and broaden our view to get a better understanding of the geology of the region, which is about the size of Oklahoma," said Joy Crisp, project scientist at the Jet Propulsion Lab. She said there are also plans to drive about 740 meters east to a crater that has been nicknamed "Endurance."
And in the longer term?
"It's clear we have to do a sample return, both for the scientific side and in preparation for human landing," said Weiler. He said future Mars missions would also include miniaturizing equipment, and landing equipment that would help prepare for the eventual landings of humans. That might include tests for toxicity in the soil, and to determine if there are any materials that humans might find useful when they do arrive.
The cost of the two rover missions is about $820 million. With solar panels and lithium-ion battery systems aboard, each rover is expected to function and communicate with earth for about 90 Mars days, known as "sols." That's equivalent to 92 earth days.
I think these are pretty historical findings. Nice to see Nasa succeed after putting so much time, money, and effort into exploring Mars.
Jesus was a Martian!!!
This finding is nothing shy of f$cking awesome!!!!!
well if Mars was once filled with Oceans, this only proves that global warming is a natrual cycle.
Take that you in enviro-commies...
oh wait
cool 
guess that means that the possibilities for that there once was life there have increased a lot, which is also cool 
I guess that martians have sinned so the lord god has decided to exterminate them all. For 40 days and 40 nights, the water continually receeded from the surface of Mars towards the heavens, until the planet was finally left completely dried out. Well, now we at least know where the water for that little Noah's flood came from
http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99994664
scientist think that Europa may be a frozen sea of acid and peroxide. :/
Well....since there is now proof that there is water on mars......I am sure Arnold will find the martian machine that instantly terraforms the planet with that frozen water soon
(Total Recall for those of you who did nto get my joke.)
Yippee for space exploration. Hey MisterO and occrider....what do you guys think about starting a mars colony and leaving this rock to the creationists?
I'm Game.
Sorry Yoepus....mustard is hazardous in the mars atmosphere...no trip for you 
MrS
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Sorry Yoepus....mustard is hazardous in the mars atmosphere...no trip for you MrS |
WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK ABOUT THE GOD DAMN SOIL. WHY DONT THEY TEST THE FUCKING AIR AND SEE IF WE CAN BREATH ON MARS, STUPID TIME WASTEING FUCKS
FUCK
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| Originally posted by Bondor WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK ABOUT THE GOD DAMN SOIL. WHY DONT THEY TEST THE FUCKING AIR AND SEE IF WE CAN BREATH ON MARS, STUPID TIME WASTEING FUCKS FUCK |
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| Originally posted by Bondor WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK ABOUT THE GOD DAMN SOIL. WHY DONT THEY TEST THE FUCKING AIR AND SEE IF WE CAN BREATH ON MARS, STUPID TIME WASTEING FUCKS FUCK |
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| Originally posted by Bondor WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK ABOUT THE GOD DAMN SOIL. WHY DONT THEY TEST THE FUCKING AIR AND SEE IF WE CAN BREATH ON MARS, STUPID TIME WASTEING FUCKS FUCK |
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| Originally posted by NeoPhono You could breathe the air on Mars...you'd die though. |
Your mom was once soaking wet.
I mean
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fuck.
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