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Posted by Shakka on Mar-05-2004 21:17:
Martha Stewart
Not political, but who cares!? Fuck you Martha! I don't think you'll be buying your way out of this one!
Posted by tathi on Mar-06-2004 00:25:
who is that?
Posted by WhoaNellie1487 on Mar-06-2004 01:14:
You've never heard of Martha Stewart before?
She's a lady here who has a show,a magazine,and even her own items in Kmart. I know what you would call her, but the word is like right on the tip of my tounge.
Anyway,She's really really rich.. and now she's in big trouble.
Posted by trancepixie17 on Mar-06-2004 01:25:
** Martha Stewart is A father fu**er. She is a scandalist, trader, indiligent. She is the most messed up bottle of ketchup I have ever seen. She looks relatively similar to the news broadcaster/interviewer on Good Morning America....haha
Posted by tathi on Mar-06-2004 01:25:
big trouble why? i'm to lazy to google it
Posted by DaveSZ on Mar-06-2004 01:58:
So long as they throw Kenny Lay and the Worldcom fuck ups in jail with her.

Posted by arctic on Mar-06-2004 02:07:
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Originally posted by tathi
who is that? |
I said the same thing in COR, then got shot down by a Yank who couldn't believe I hadn't heard of her. I hang my head in shame.
Posted by zenperson on Mar-06-2004 12:55:
While I don't have much pity for Martha, I can honestly say that I'm no better than she is. Yes, I have lied in my life and yes I have lied to hide my lies.... All of of us have....I think it's good to see a person of her standing get caught because it will remain an ever constant reminder that even the most seemingly "honest" and successful people are still people....just like each one of you reading the words on this post right now..... 
Posted by Shakka on Mar-06-2004 13:25:
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Originally posted by zenperson
While I don't have much pity for Martha, I can honestly say that I'm no better than she is. Yes, I have lied in my life and yes I have lied to hide my lies.... All of of us have....I think it's good to see a person of her standing get caught because it will remain an ever constant reminder that even the most seemingly "honest" and successful people are still people....just like each one of you reading the words on this post right now..... |
Yes....she's really like...Jesus, dying for our sins.


(I think the cuffs were added recently
Perhaps you need a little more juice to realize why it's really such a big deal in her case.
You see, before Martha Stewart was the CEO of a once multi-billion dollar corporation(bully for her!)she had a lot of earlier experience as well. In her younger days she was a stockbroker. I'm sure she was a very good stock broker at that, as she became pretty successful from that. Not until later did she start making appearances on the Today Show with little household tips and such. Not only until 1991 did she start writing/publishing Martha Stewart: Living Magazine, which became a quick success. Not until the middle of the stock market mania (1998) did she go public with her magazine/company and completely sell herself to the world. At that point she became the billionaire who was both loved by so many and hated by so many more. Oh, and did I also mention that during the time she was accused of impropriety, she held a BOARD SEAT on the New York Stock Exchange??? Yeah, she stepped down in 2002, after she'd been found out.
Aside from the well known sentiment that Martha Stewart is a raging bitch perfectionist. Countless stories abound about Martha doing something or another that was incredibly bitchy. Apparently she once tried to pin her neighbor or gardener against a fence with her car. I'm pretty sure there was a book written about it several years back(Maybe in the mid-late 90's). Yeah, one of the jury members was interviewed yesterday and he said that Stewart's best friend provided some of the most damaging testimony against her!
Anyway, back to the story. Martha was a stockbroker, a CEO/Chairperson of a multi-billion dollar, publically held company, and she SAT on the BOARD of the NYSE. You think she didn't know the rules? You think she didn't have any reservations that what she might be doing would look a bit suspicious? It's pretty obvious that she was trading on insider information, but it simply couldn't be proven without a doubt. And the fact that she then lied and made up stories instead of coming clean. This wasn't just a little mistake that people make. This was basically a big FU to the SEC, the NYSE, and anyone who ever believed in her ethics and integrity. There need to be consequences. Dishonest till the end. Just like Jesus.
Anyway, I'm glad she was found guilty, and I'm glad her stockbroker was found guilty as well, even if they'll both end up serving less than a year in prison.
Posted by imokruok on Mar-06-2004 15:22:
See...that's just the thing. She played stupid at trial, but everyone knows that she was a FREAKING STOCKBROKER before she started her company. She knows how it works, and she damn well knew what she was doing. I'm glad the jury found her guilty. But you can't give her enough jail time for the torture that she has imposed upon men everywhere.
Posted by St_Andrew on Mar-06-2004 17:57:
interesting read, now i know who martha stewart is 
Posted by tathi on Mar-06-2004 23:49:
funniest line in a movie ever: American Psycho, Christian Bale goes up to a bum and asks him if his homeless because of Insider Trading
maybe that is what is in store for Martha Stewart 
Posted by Shakka on Mar-08-2004 00:14:
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Originally posted by tathi
funniest line in a movie ever: American Psycho, Christian Bale goes up to a bum and asks him if his homeless because of Insider Trading
maybe that is what is in store for Martha Stewart |
I really liked that movie. I never understood why it got such poor reviews.
Posted by tathi on Mar-08-2004 00:56:
yeah i loved it aswell
American Psycho 2 is pathetic though, one of the few movies i've walked out half way through :S
Posted by Izzy on Mar-08-2004 01:10:

Posted by Alccode on Mar-08-2004 02:30:
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Originally posted by arctic
I said the same thing in COR, then got shot down by a Yank who couldn't believe I hadn't heard of her. I hang my head in shame. |
Grrr!!!!
Why should you hang your head in shame?!
That "Yank" made an idiot of himself... obviously you were posting in that thread because you wanted to know who Martha Stewart is.
Who the hell cares who Martha Stewart is, anyway? Hence my reply to that guy that the U.S. isn't the centre of the world. We don't need to know who Martha Stewart is.
Anyway, back on topic...
I hope SNL makes a parody of this entire episode. Their Martha Stewart skits are hilarious.
Posted by arctic on Mar-08-2004 05:35:
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Originally posted by Alccode
Grrr!!!! Why should you hang your head in shame?!
That "Yank" made an idiot of himself... obviously you were posting in that thread because you wanted to know who Martha Stewart is.
Who the hell cares who Martha Stewart is, anyway? Hence my reply to that guy that the U.S. isn't the centre of the world. We don't need to know who Martha Stewart is.
Anyway, back on topic...
I hope SNL makes a parody of this entire episode. Their Martha Stewart skits are hilarious. |
Haha, the 'hang my head in shame' part was actually sarcastic, but hey. 
I honestly had no idea who she was until all the Americans (and some Canadians) were coming in with the "OH MY GOD, SHE'S IN JAIL!' posts. It did seem a bit odd, as I literally had no idea who she was. Ah well, cest la vie.
Posted by igottaknow on Mar-09-2004 06:37:
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Originally posted by arctic
Haha, the 'hang my head in shame' part was actually sarcastic, but hey. 
I honestly had no idea who she was until all the Americans (and some Canadians) were coming in with the "OH MY GOD, SHE'S IN JAIL!' posts. It did seem a bit odd, as I literally had no idea who she was. Ah well, cest la vie. |
Your being annoying because if you dont know her and thus dont having anything to contribute to the discussion why are you posting in the thread? Its like if u were having a conversation about a celebrity in ur country and i stick my nose in and say gee i dont know her. If your truely interested in the subject do some homework and google the name otherwise ur just an attention whore.
Posted by arctic on Mar-09-2004 09:12:
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Originally posted by igottaknow
Your being annoying because if you dont know her and thus dont having anything to contribute to the discussion why are you posting in the thread? |
As Haak said in the original thread, maybe, just maybe, to find out who she is?
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| Its like if u were having a conversation about a celebrity in ur country and i stick my nose in and say gee i dont know her. |
I don't see a problem with that. I'd simply say who he/she was if somebody asked.
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| If your truely interested in the subject do some homework and google the name otherwise ur just an attention whore. |
Again, what makes you think I'm 'truly' interested? It was just a passing interest, as people were discussing it as if it was a big deal, and I had absolutely no idea who she was. But hey, if you define wondering who someone is as attention whoring, then that's fine by me. 
In all seriousness, I didn't set out to be antagonistic. If that's how you interpreted it, then ok, but that wasn't the original intent.
Posted by tathi on Mar-09-2004 09:54:
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igottaknow
Your being annoying because if you dont know her and thus dont having anything to contribute to the discussion why are you posting in the thread? Its like if u were having a conversation about a celebrity in ur country and i stick my nose in and say gee i dont know her. If your truely interested in the subject do some homework and google the name otherwise ur just an attention whore. |
attention whore? pretty hypocritical coming in here and having a whinge, stfu
Posted by Shakka on Mar-09-2004 14:57:
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Originally posted by igottaknow
Your being annoying because if you dont know her and thus dont having anything to contribute to the discussion why are you posting in the thread? Its like if u were having a conversation about a celebrity in ur country and i stick my nose in and say gee i dont know her. If your truely interested in the subject do some homework and google the name otherwise ur just an attention whore. |
Nothing wrong with trying to learn more. There's no reason to exclude anyone from a thread simply because they aren't as well read on the subject matter as you.
Now if said person starts mouthing off about something they know nothing about, then it becomes a different story.
Posted by igottaknow on Mar-09-2004 17:23:
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Originally posted by arctic
Again, what makes you think I'm 'truly' interested? It was just a passing interest, as people were discussing it as if it was a big deal, and I had absolutely no idea who she was. But hey, if you define wondering who someone is as attention whoring, then that's fine by me. 
In all seriousness, I didn't set out to be antagonistic. If that's how you interpreted it, then ok, but that wasn't the original intent. |
that's just another example of same type of annoying behavior if you really dont care about the thread subject why are you posting in it. btw this isn't the chill out room.
flame me all you want its my opinion that its annoying to post in a thread if your too lazy to do any homework on the subject. What do want a metal for your ignorance?
I have the right to call you out on something which is based on message board edicate, and isnt a personal attack.
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Originally posted by tathi
attention whore? pretty hypocritical coming in here and having a whinge, stfu |
since this is a debate forum why dont give me convincing arguement that i'm being hypocritical.
Posted by Shakka on Mar-09-2004 19:07:
See, now I agree with what you're saying there. Don't come into a thread and post nonsense if you're clueless about the subject matter, but feel free to engage in the discussion if you have a relevant question to ask or something pertinent to add.
btw, it's etiquette.

Posted by tathi on Mar-09-2004 22:55:
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igottoknow
since this is a debate forum why dont give me convincing arguement that i'm being hypocritical. |
you whinge about other people being an annoying attention whore and you come in here doing the exact same thing
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| flame me all you want its my opinion that its annoying to post in a thread if your too lazy to do any homework on the subject. What do want a metal for your ignorance? |
This is not some thread on cold fusion, Chechen politics, or religious fundamentalism, the first post in the thread being:
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Shakka
Not political, but who cares!? Fuck you Martha! I don't think you'll be buying your way out of this one! |
I'ts ambiguous, and does not read like the type of thread you have to google a little background information on. Shakka will agree that the etiquette in this thread is very different to the etiquette found in his threads on the economy and swedish animal sex.
Oh noes Someones asked who martha stewart is in a thread in the COR about martha stewart, clearly nothing to do with the topic i might have a waaaaah in this thread then find him in another forum and have a waaaah there!!!
get over it. stop being an attention whore
Posted by imokruok on Mar-09-2004 23:11:
The sentence she deserves:

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