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Death to religion?
Who's in?
Although i dont like religion in general, it has helped some people put their life on track even though they talk crazy about loving Jeebus.
Despite that, everyone should be allowed to beleive in whatever they want to beleive, just not impose values on others or hurt others or influence the world in a religous manner (although it does).
I dont want to vote on it.
I'm with the queer arab immigrant on this one. Down with dogma!
hate, greed, anger, jelousy, etc, are all human emotions that have nothing to do with religion. If religion were abloshished our human nature would find something else to fight about, it is inherent in us, not religion.
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| Originally posted by DigiNut I'm with the queer arab immigrant on this one. Down with dogma! |
yeah, I would like to see religion organizations taxed and regulated....and someday, hopefully, phased out of society. 
hehe, everyone has their right to think whatever they want... but i think we should get it out of ta at least 
if it wasnt for these religious assholes and their bullshit conflicts we would already have a station on the moon, we would already have sent man to mars, and we'd be on our way to exploring the galaxy more.
i'm hoping for some alien-tech-attack independence day stylez so that they stop their fucking bitching and fight someone else besides each other.
Uhm, maybe I'm missing something here, but isn't trying to "kill" religion or mandate atheism just the same as a religious person trying to force their beliefs on the non-religious? It's just one person forcing a belief on another, regardless if you are trying to force the existance of a divinity or the absence of one. Maybe I'm taking this wrongly, but this seems a little hypocritical.
Let people think what they want to think, if you don't like what they think, don't listen.
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| Originally posted by NeoPhono Uhm, maybe I'm missing something here, but isn't trying to "kill" religion or mandate atheism just the same as a religious person trying to force their beliefs on the non-religious? It's just one person forcing a belief on another, regardless if you are trying to force the existance of a divinity or the absence of one. Maybe I'm taking this wrongly, but this seems a little hypocritical. Let people think what they want to think, if you don't like what they think, don't listen. |
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| Originally posted by NeoPhono Uhm, maybe I'm missing something here, but isn't trying to "kill" religion or mandate atheism just the same as a religious person trying to force their beliefs on the non-religious? It's just one person forcing a belief on another, regardless if you are trying to force the existance of a divinity or the absence of one. Maybe I'm taking this wrongly, but this seems a little hypocritical. Let people think what they want to think, if you don't like what they think, don't listen. |
eh, i voted that it is just babble, but i dont think that the world would necessarily be better without it.
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| Originally posted by NeoPhono Uhm, maybe I'm missing something here, but isn't trying to "kill" religion or mandate atheism just the same as a religious person trying to force their beliefs on the non-religious? It's just one person forcing a belief on another, regardless if you are trying to force the existance of a divinity or the absence of one. Maybe I'm taking this wrongly, but this seems a little hypocritical. Let people think what they want to think, if you don't like what they think, don't listen. |
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| Originally posted by Arbiter It could be interpreted similarly. However, I don't think the intention is to dictate anyone's private beliefs so much as abolish the harmful institution of organized religion. I don't support doing this by force, but making every effort to illuminate the simple truth of the matter in an endeavor to eliminate this harmful institution is hardly analogous to an imposition or indoctrination of a set of beliefs, but rather is more akin to education. When theists keep their beliefs to themselves, or at least don't push them as facts, I can respect their position. However, I am not inclined to look favorably upon the indoctrination of millions of innocent children with irrational religious dogma. You may as well be raping them - it's merely on an intellectual level rather than physical. But that doesn't make it any less real, any less harmful, or any less deplorable - at least in my view. The many wars, terrorist acts, and other acts of violence against other human beings which are a product of religion are well documented. At this point, religion becomes not only a personal belief, but dangerous creature which can and does produce serious harm to other individuals. It is religion in this manifestation which fully ought to be completely obliterated. |
Religion holds a place in life, you can either ***USE*** it to your advantage, or end up with your head on the end of a pike, the choice is YOURS.
Note I did not say BELIEVE. Life is like chess in some ways, half of the game is learning to USE the pieces that are in play. Politicians the world over have done this since the dawn of civilization. The MASTERS are above the ordinary politician, they CREATE the pieces. If you succeed in doing this, tell me how. 
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| Originally posted by Arbiter It could be interpreted similarly. However, I don't think the intention is to dictate anyone's private beliefs so much as abolish the harmful institution of organized religion. I don't support doing this by force, but making every effort to illuminate the simple truth of the matter in an endeavor to eliminate this harmful institution is hardly analogous to an imposition or indoctrination of a set of beliefs, but rather is more akin to education. When theists keep their beliefs to themselves, or at least don't push them as facts, I can respect their position. However, I am not inclined to look favorably upon the indoctrination of millions of innocent children with irrational religious dogma. You may as well be raping them - it's merely on an intellectual level rather than physical. But that doesn't make it any less real, any less harmful, or any less deplorable - at least in my view. The many wars, terrorist acts, and other acts of violence against other human beings which are a product of religion are well documented. At this point, religion becomes not only a personal belief, but dangerous creature which can and does produce serious harm to other individuals. It is religion in this manifestation which fully ought to be completely obliterated. |
Organized religion is a method for the few to control the lives of the many. It has been the truth since the first priest or shaman decided to lift himself above his fellow people. If all religious leaders were truly enlightened and none were attempting to control the masses at any cost there would not have been a reason for many authors of drama over the last 3 millenia to put corrupt preists into their works.
I would not cry to see organized religion perish, but I know that it won't any time soon. As long as there are megalomaniacs that see religious "enlightenment" as a way to exercise power over other members of society and there are people who for whatever reason are willing to feed the egos of these men and women, nothing will change.
MrS
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