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Posted by el.maestro on Mar-09-2004 13:27:

Think Twice about Pioneer

Durring the Ultra Music Festival, Tiesto & Josh Wink both went down on 2 diferent stages. The common link was they both were using Pioneer Decks.

Price for Ultra $30
Price for Drinks $40
Flight $150
Hotel $300
Watching Josh Wink
Beat the crap out of
the Pioneer deck .... PRICELESS!!

Posted by MERiDiAN5i2 on Mar-09-2004 17:02:

ahahah great... i'd have loved to see that

pioneer.. bah! they really should have stuck to making mid-grade home stereo recievers and run-of-the-mill car stereos.

Posted by dj chex on Mar-09-2004 18:00:

sweet!! is there a video or pics anyware? i really wanna see wink kill gear! Another artist that loves to kill gear is Primal Scream. Those guys are really crazy and mean to their gear... like set fire to their mixing consoles and burn computers and stuff.

Posted by Dj Thy on Mar-09-2004 19:10:

Still, I'd take a Pioneer deck over a Denon one any day. Denon decks have given me so much problems in the past that I don't come near when they're installed in a setup.

Posted by EldamRy on Mar-09-2004 19:16:

SL-1200

Posted by Dj Thy on Mar-09-2004 20:26:

That one plays cd's very well indeed

Posted by nrjizer on Mar-09-2004 20:32:

Don't forget PvD's infamous skipping disc last year.

I still highly doubt a flaw on the CD could have caused that, because correct me if I'm wrong, the CDJ 1000 loads the whole track into memory, instead of reading it straight off the CD, right? If not, then I don't see why it wouldn't have read over that scratch instead of gradually getting worse and worse.

Oh well, theyre still amazing little things. Maybe its the heat that does it to them? I haven't heard of them having problems like that elsewhere.

Posted by el.maestro on Mar-10-2004 00:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Thy
Still, I'd take a Pioneer deck over a Denon one any day. Denon decks have given me so much problems in the past that I don't come near when they're installed in a setup.

Really? What kind of problems? I was thinking about going with Denon because of the features:
Plays MP3 Files
Can Play 2 Tracks from the same CD
Pitch control over vocals without
chaning BPM
Control over BPM

Are there any others that do this? If so, I'd like to know.

Posted by Dj Thy on Mar-10-2004 19:36:

It has been improved with their new S series, but with the DN series, I've had skipping problems each time I used them in a large venue (read, loud environment, vibrations). Once a complete dual deck just went out on me. I've played around with the S series, and had no problems yet, but haven't them used in a "hard" environment either.

I'm sort of old fashioned in that way. I don't want loads of features, I just want a deck that performs well (just like the SL1200). Pioneer hasn't given me any problems yet (their suspension systems still are the best up to date if you ask me).

There are enough cd players that play mp3's now. Although I strongly recommend against playing mp3's on a gig (you really hear the crapiness of mp3 on large PA). Well, don't know any other cd players that have alpha track, but surely one of those copycats (Gemini, American Audio, ...) has it already.

And independant pitch and tempo control has been on players for some time now. First that comes to mind is the Tascam CD-302 (that has had some problems in the past too, due to bad firmware updates).

Posted by hooj1 on Mar-13-2004 23:52:

quote:
Originally posted by el.maestro
Really? What kind of problems? I was thinking about going with Denon because of the features:
Plays MP3 Files
Can Play 2 Tracks from the same CD
Pitch control over vocals without
chaning BPM
Control over BPM

Are there any others that do this? If so, I'd like to know.

you should wait till technics comes out with their cd deck. it kicks much booty. i got to try it out at the namm show, and it beats everything out there.