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Posted by beema on Mar-12-2004 05:53:

Dunno Futureshock - Pride's Paranoia = Abstract Hip-Hop?

I've been out of the loop on hip-hop for quite some time now. First time I heard this song, underground hip-hop jumped in my mind. I love abstract hip-hop cause it reminds me of poetry I used to write. Anyways, I've heard hip-hop in EDM before, but it is usually in house or breakbeat stuff (ie, UNKLE, groove armada, dub pistols, etc). Lately I've really been loving the Marco V remix of this tune, it is fast becoming one of my favorite songs. I was suprised how well that the hip-hop style lyrics worked and flowed with a hard techy tune like this, without coming off as cheesy. Does anybody know the emcee on this track?
Just wanted you to share your thoughts on this subject, since I'm really digging this tune.

ps: anyone who says "hip-hop/rap sucks" or the like can have a nice warm cup of STFU. Intelligent responses please.


Posted by Cobalt on Mar-12-2004 06:03:

From Progressive Sounds:

"Over on the second disc of the sampler 'Pride's Paranoia' offers something slightly different, with it's Underground Resistance style bassline and mc vocal courtesy of Slug from mid west hip hop outfit Atmosphere. Hints of Eminem are eveident but the track itself goes toe to toe with Slug's vocals, with some low techy grooves slipping at the back end of the track. Imagine a track akin to one of Green Velvet's many hits and you will have a good idea of what to expect."


Posted by beema on Mar-12-2004 06:29:

interesting
more thoughts please!


Posted by Blue. on Mar-12-2004 06:46:

I love the versatility of trance. You can make a trance remix of a rock song, a hip-hop track, anything. Few genres can do that successfully.

There have been a number of wicked remixes of rock tracks (mainly Depeche Mode) and a few successful hip-hop remixes as well and I think it's good that people are experimenting with the genres and bringing them together on a certain level.

Loving the Marco V remix of this tune as well and lately the fad seams to be remixing rock tunez and I for one am not complaining.


Posted by j�c� on Mar-12-2004 11:39:

quote:
Originally posted by trance_n_dance
I love the versatility of trance. You can make a trance remix of a rock song, a hip-hop track, anything. Few genres can do that successfully.



trance, versatile? please..

this track isn't trance. its progressive


Posted by Sand Leaper on Mar-12-2004 11:53:

quote:
Originally posted by j�c�
trance, versatile? please..

this track isn't trance. its progressive


While I agree that the track certainly isn't trance, slapping the "progressive" label on Futureshock's music is just as bad and unfair, since it blatantly ignores the way their music does not conform to the majority of progressive's common traits. That a progressive DJ plays FS' tracks does not mean they make progressive (if that was true you could easily call it trance as well, since both Marco V and Ferry have played FS tunes)


Posted by Ste on Mar-12-2004 12:51:

i dont thionk its trance but to say trance isnt versitile is a bit of a narrowminded (possibly prog elitist-esque)

just because all you think trance is what gets played on ASOT doesnt mean thats all their is in the world...


Posted by beema on Mar-12-2004 14:02:

woohoo
yet another thread has degenerated into a pointless argument
why do I try


Posted by sooper on Mar-12-2004 14:26:

Eric Prydz remix of this toon is funky tasty beats!


Posted by TwoPlow on Mar-12-2004 14:55:

Slug has done a lot of cool stuff. I suggest you look into some of it. Haven't heard this song, but it sounds interesting. I'll check it out.


Posted by Blue. on Mar-13-2004 00:32:

quote:
Originally posted by j�c�
trance, versatile? please..

this track isn't trance. its progressive


I'm referring to the Prydz and Marco V mixes that I've heard, I haven't heard the original of this tune just yet I'm going by what I've heard from the mixes.


Posted by Danny Ocean on Mar-13-2004 00:46:

quote:
Originally posted by sooper
Eric Prydz remix of this toon is funky tasty beats!


agreed!


Posted by Solstice on Mar-13-2004 02:11:

The marco V mis is absolutely stomping. This is easily one of my fave tracks of this year.


Posted by sandstorm03 on Mar-13-2004 03:10:

its not my favorite track, but i think its a good idea, a nice change from most of marco's stuff...


Posted by Sid on Mar-13-2004 11:29:

this track owns! I'm usually not a fan of hip hop style vocals but this track really does it for me.


Posted by Haze344 on Mar-13-2004 15:21:

Re: Futureshock - Pride's Paranoia = Abstract Hip-Hop?

quote:
Originally posted by beema
I've been out of the loop on hip-hop for quite some time now. First time I heard this song, underground hip-hop jumped in my mind. I love abstract hip-hop cause it reminds me of poetry I used to write. Anyways, I've heard hip-hop in EDM before, but it is usually in house or breakbeat stuff (ie, UNKLE, groove armada, dub pistols, etc). Lately I've really been loving the Marco V remix of this tune, it is fast becoming one of my favorite songs. I was suprised how well that the hip-hop style lyrics worked and flowed with a hard techy tune like this, without coming off as cheesy. Does anybody know the emcee on this track?
Just wanted you to share your thoughts on this subject, since I'm really digging this tune.

ps: anyone who says "hip-hop/rap sucks" or the like can have a nice warm cup of STFU. Intelligent responses please.


Just kind of dumb question but isn't EDM also hip-hop?


Posted by beema on Mar-13-2004 15:34:

Re: Re: Futureshock - Pride's Paranoia = Abstract Hip-Hop?

quote:
Originally posted by Haze344
Just kind of dumb question but isn't EDM also hip-hop?


I think you meant "Isn't hip-hop a type of EDM?"
Sort of...it uses electronic instruments to create the musical portion of it, but I think it's in a universe of its own really.
Maybe I should have used the word "rap" instead of hip-hop in that case. As in: "I've heard rap used on EDM tracks before..."
meh


Posted by Lira on Mar-13-2004 15:35:

Well, it's actually the other way round, Hip-Hop is EDM
quote:
Originally posted by beema
woohoo
yet another thread has degenerated into a pointless argument
why do I try

You gotta have faith


Posted by Haze344 on Mar-13-2004 15:45:

Yeah at the end of the Sander K radio 1 set from WMC there was some tight as Obie Trice track mashed with a background techno track. It was really cool. Thanks for the info on the edm vs. hip-hop thing even as a dj I was never really sure on that.


Posted by SuperFarStucker on Mar-17-2004 17:11:

Blaring All I've heard is Eric Prydz mix... has a housy groove to it.



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