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Posted by [N]�k|��[Z] on Mar-12-2004 07:58:

Idea Old Skool Kung Fu/Samurai Movies

unfortunatly, most ppl i know are more driven by the likes of jet li movies and other spec effects riddled movies... and fail to see the raw talent and skill of the old skool kung fu movies.

just bought the kill bill ltd edition box set thingy, which has 3 movies that infliuenced kill bill ... contains, babycart at the river styx, lady snowblood and zatoichi meets the one armed swordsman.

babycart at the river styx ... an old samurai assasin puching his toddler around in a wooden cart bursting with traps and weapons cutting slicing and shredding enemies to pieces and sraying blood a piss after watching a movie at the cinema. how can jet li's recent crap be better than this... discuss


Posted by Dmatrox on Mar-12-2004 08:07:

Jet Li is awesome

whens kill bill 2 coming out?


Posted by 3jaz on Mar-12-2004 11:59:

Drunken Master


Posted by noonboy on Mar-12-2004 12:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Dmatrox
Jet Li is awesome


no !!!!


Posted by DigiNut on Mar-12-2004 15:41:

quote:
Originally posted by 3jaz
Drunken Master

Good choice, but the old, subtitled Jackie Chan movies are even better.

Jet Li is a wannabe Jackie Chan. The latter is actually a stunt man too and performs all his own stunts, the former's just some random martial artist that Hollywood picked when they couldn't afford Chan.

Not that Jet Li isn't talented... just doesn't have that much to offer acting-wise.


Posted by Tranceporter99 on Mar-12-2004 15:43:

jet li is alright, i cant stand jackie chans acting although the stunts are unriveled, kill bill was awesome.qeunten tarentino(spl)is a badass. i havenmt really watched all the old kung fu movies although i have heard great things. bruce lee was awesome. i know some guys that loved old kung fu movies they made a rap band and call it the manchu warlords[there rapping isnt really about kung fu movies]


Posted by Streakfury on Mar-12-2004 16:12:

Kung Pow


Posted by tranceaholic on Mar-12-2004 16:29:

nothing will come close to the Bruce Lee movies


Posted by tu_face on Mar-12-2004 16:32:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Good choice, but the old, subtitled Jackie Chan movies are even better.


i whole-heartedly agree, forget anything new by him though, old stuff like 'half a loaf of kung-fu' and the 36 chambers films were amazing!


Posted by Moongoose on Mar-12-2004 16:40:

Jackie Chan is the best I love his movies, i can even watch the new stuff which shows that im really a fan of his stuff Infact im jsut watching wheel on meals...one of his old movies...got to love em


Posted by DigiNut on Mar-12-2004 16:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Moongoose
Jackie Chan is the best I love his movies, i can even watch the new stuff which shows that im really a fan of his stuff Infact im jsut watching wheel on meals...one of his old movies...got to love em

Yeah, Jackie Chan is not that convincing of an actor, but drama isn't really the reason I watch Kung Fu movies. I wanna find some of his really old ones but I've never been able to (talking about in stores here, not on the internet).


Posted by Mr. Pink on Mar-12-2004 16:50:

Rasta

Old skool...

Bruce Lee

Chinese Connection


He totally KICKS everyone's ass.
Oh man, it is amazing.
He beats zee crap out of like 30 men. that guy is quick as hell


Posted by Boomer187 on Mar-12-2004 17:20:

Jet Li is the shit. I used to hang out with this Korean kid who tell me all about him.

He ususally always has masters as co-stars so they all can fight...especially Jet, and I am not talking just movie fighting...real life he kicks serious ass.


Posted by digitalbreach on Mar-12-2004 17:44:

Jet Li in HERO was good. That movie just owns.

Obviously Bruce lee movies were good. Except for the one done w/ Chuck Norris.

Any other suggestions???


Posted by KilldaDJ on Mar-12-2004 18:30:

King

steve chow is funny, not really a martial artist but a chinese comedian, spoofs of films and shit, well funny

anyway, to the subj.

jackie chan was the king of asian film thru the 80s, armour of god, wheels on meals, project a, police story etc to name a few of his finest stunts

jet li is a modern martial artist, however his 'the one' film kinda let me down, it was full of slo-mo effects and shit, i felt this kinda drew away from what martial arts is abt.

but jet li has done work in the 80s, he wasnt well known then, he starred in the once upon a time in china films, they were the raw flying in the air chopping each over up films, they were cool, i grew up watching them

also jet li was the champion in the under 20s martial arts tournament in the 80s, cant remember the exact date, i must find vcd to watch again ROFL


Posted by butterfly on Mar-12-2004 18:34:

quote:
Originally posted by tranceaholic
nothing will come close to the Bruce Lee movies


agreed... i saw some for the first time a few weeks ago. fucking classic. i must see more...


Posted by Radagast on Mar-12-2004 18:41:

Ogm have you seen Bloodsport? That movie is 'teh pwn'. Martial arts master Jean Claude Van Damme at his best.


Posted by [N]�k|��[Z] on Mar-12-2004 20:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Moongoose
Jackie Chan is the best I love his movies, i can even watch the new stuff which shows that im really a fan of his stuff Infact im jsut watching wheel on meals...one of his old movies...got to love em



agreed,,, i know his recent stuff is very substandard entertainmentwise, but the guy is so talented its not even funny, i have his first ever movie [so i was told] on DVD 'master with cracked fingers' and its quite different, jackie is very young and more chinese looking than he looks now, and his moves r fairly basic in terms of martial arts mastery and in comparoison to what you will see him do now a days. but even now i dont think his stunts are as good as what they were back when he left golden harvest to join the mainstream in hong kong [or was it to join golden harvest? cant remem] movies like wheels on meals etc is jackie at his very best. co starring yun bieu [equally amazing] makes the movie a pleasure to watch. shame they arnt like that now, and it is because of the jet li fans like my friend that made me wanna make a thread about it, as my friend nik loves jet li, but he wont sit down and watch one of my old skooly kung fu movies with me.

even by jackie chan standards, i'd still class his stuff as a little mainstream, with regards to his armour of god etc movies. i wanna hear of ppl watching REAL kung fu movies... im talking crappy dubbing, silly voices, diabolically crap film quality ,'you killed my dad now im gonna beat up all 136 of your men then struggle to kill you at the end for about 5 minutes till i get my second wind from having a flashback of seeing my mother and sister being beat up' type of kung fu movie anyone into these?


Posted by wick on Mar-12-2004 21:34:

wtf.. jet li in real life is a well respected martial artist.. he is something like dan 6? which is basically earning ur black belt 6 times. well i think : )


Posted by Sean Walsh on Mar-12-2004 22:29:

quote:
Originally posted by 3jaz
Drunken Master


The scene where they are fighting over the last piece of pork with their chopsticks is the best ever!


Posted by nrjizer on Mar-12-2004 22:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Boomer187
Jet Li is the shit. I used to hang out with this Korean kid who tell me all about him.

He ususally always has masters as co-stars so they all can fight...especially Jet, and I am not talking just movie fighting...real life he kicks serious ass.


Actually, I beleive Li himself said his style of Wushu wasn't ideal for actual combat.

No one can come close to Bruce Lee. Unlike Jet Li movies that use way too many wires and fake fighting (which I find boring), or Jackie Chan who does crazy acrobatic feats (which I love, but aren't at all practical for real combat) , Bruce Lee's movies emphasized realism in most all of their aspects. While Bruce was certainly aware of what looks good for a camera, such as a kick to the face. Bruce himself said "kicking someone in the face is like punching them in the foot." Still, it doesn't take a lot away from the detail and realism in his movies. Just watch in the game of death when he beats the shit out of that O'Hara guy. No super fancy wire-fu, no impossible high round kicks, no bullshit like that. BOOM, one quick punch to the face and he's on the ground.

Someone needs to bring back realism in martial arts films. Hell, I loved Kill Bill and I love Jackie Chan (the crazy feats in his movies he does himself, no wires, no nothing, and you've gotta love em, but as for the fighting its not _real_ martial arts), but someone needs to inject a good dose of reality into a martial arts film, big time.


Posted by Boomer187 on Mar-12-2004 22:51:

quote:
Originally posted by nrjizer
Actually, I beleive Li himself said his style of Wushu wasn't ideal for actual combat.

No one can come close to Bruce Lee. Unlike Jet Li movies that use way too many wires and fake fighting (which I find boring), or Jackie Chan who does crazy acrobatic feats (which I love, but aren't at all practical for real combat) , Bruce Lee's movies emphasized realism in most all of their aspects. While Bruce was certainly aware of what looks good for a camera, such as a kick to the face. Bruce himself said "kicking someone in the face is like punching them in the foot." Still, it doesn't take a lot away from the detail and realism in his movies. Just watch in the game of death when he beats the shit out of that O'Hara guy. No super fancy wire-fu, no impossible high round kicks, no bullshit like that. BOOM, one quick punch to the face and he's on the ground.

Someone needs to bring back realism in martial arts films. Hell, I loved Kill Bill and I love Jackie Chan (the crazy feats in his movies he does himself, no wires, no nothing, and you've gotta love em, but as for the fighting its not _real_ martial arts), but someone needs to inject a good dose of reality into a martial arts film, big time.


its all a matter of opinion, some people like the fantasy aspect of it.

Myself, I like the realism, but to each their own.


Posted by TigerClaw on Mar-12-2004 22:54:

Jet Li is starring in his own video game called Rise to Honor, You can read about it and some screenshots here.


Posted by Flec on Mar-12-2004 23:30:

anyone seen conman in tokyo?

kung fu + gambling amazing stuff i love it, and apparently its a rippoff/comedyspoof of another movie so its full of stupid shit that makes it fun to watch


Posted by -=M=- on Mar-12-2004 23:35:

oh man

chuck norris

what a guy!

*idea*


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